[00:00:00] Luke: Alyson, here we go. It's your opportunity, once in a lifetime, to ask me anything.

[00:00:08] Alyson: Oh my gosh. I never thought I'd see the day. This is very exciting. I have a whole laundry list here.

[00:00:14] Luke: You get to sit across from your famous husband. Now, you guys, this is Episode 599 of The Life Stylist podcast. And we haven't done an ask me anything or an AMA in quite a long time because you and I have been having these beautiful conversations. And nonetheless, we still get questions all the time from listeners, and I feel beholden to answer them. And the reason Alyson's here is because I have a very difficult time recording AMA's pundit style looking at my computer screen, which I used to do.

[00:00:52] Alyson: I never understood how you did that. That was a very painstaking process.

[00:00:56] Luke: It was exhausting. And once I would see the questions come in, I would feel like I needed to prepare. And so I would spend hours creating a manuscript for the episodes, and each 90-minute to two-hour episode would take 12 hours to produce.

[00:01:15] Alyson: Yeah.

[00:01:16] Luke: And I thought, wow, it'd just be so much easier to just do it spontaneously and have the opportunity to hang out with you instead of sitting on my computer.

[00:01:24] Alyson: And Cookie too.

[00:01:25] Luke: Yeah. And Cookie. And Jarrod's over here. One of these days, we'll get you a mic, Jarrod.

[00:01:30] Alyson: Yeah. He hides whenever we bring him up.

[00:01:33] Luke: Yeah, there's no camera on him. We need to get a camera, so when I see the word Jarrod, it activates to show him over there on the computer.

[00:01:40] Alyson: I'm sure he would love that.

[00:01:42] Luke: Yeah. Jarrod's low key. But to get into a mic would be cool so when I ask like, "Hey, what's the name of that thing?" Like some of the podcasts, like Rogan and such, they'll look something up on the internet and fact check something. That would be neat. Anyway. Good idea for the future, but here we are.

[00:01:58] So listeners and viewers, thank you, guys, so much for submitting great questions as usual. Some of them were submitted to The Life Stylist podcast Facebook group, which I regret to admit that I haven't logged in there in a very long time, just because I have such an aversion to Facebook for a number of reasons.

[00:02:22] But that group is, I don't know, 6, 7,000 people strong, and it's very active amongst themselves. But I feel like I birthed a community into existence there a few years ago and then abandoned it. So please forgive me. It's difficult to stay up with all the social media, but people ask great questions in there.

[00:02:42] And the thing that started happening in the Facebook group, which by the way, anyone can request to join, in the beginning, I'd be in there answering all the questions and then I realized so many of the other listener members would have more intelligent answers than I would. And I thought, you guys don't need me.

[00:03:00] You're very self-sufficient here. So that's where some of these came from. And then some people emailed them to us in response to an email blast. And before we start, I want to see if anyone would like to be notified every Tuesday and the last Friday of every month when I release an episode, get on the email list, and you do that at lukestorey.com/newsletter. I won't spam you. I won't try to sell you a bunch of shit. I'm very respectful with when and why we send emails. For the most part, you'll only get the episodes each week with show notes and every detail from that particular episode so you can decide whether you want to watch it or listen to it.

[00:03:44] And the links to do so will be in there too. So that's lukestorey.com/newsletter. I encourage you to join because it's a way we can privately communicate outside of the realms of social media.

[00:03:57] Alyson: Mm-hmm. And you got some big things cooking soon. You've been working hard on that book, so they need to stay abreast and when that'll be popping out.

[00:04:05] Luke: This is true.

[00:04:07] Alyson: Yeah, you've been really working hard on that book, honey.

[00:04:10] Luke: Oh my God.

[00:04:11] Alyson: I can definitely attest, there's no ghost writer here, folks.

[00:04:14] Luke: Oh man. I wish there was sometimes.

[00:04:17] Alyson: I hear you. I understand. Well, are you ready?

[00:04:21] Luke: I'm ready to roll.

[00:04:23] Alyson: Okay. I'll just start an order here. I really enjoy this person's name, however, I do not know if I will be pronouncing it correctly. It's Mokie.

[00:04:33] Luke: Mokie. What a great name.

[00:04:35] Alyson: Isn't that cute? Mokie asks, do you have a mindfulness self-talk affirmation practice? If so, what is it?

[00:04:47] Luke: Oh, man, that's great. Yeah, I think it's funny that term, which I suppose is rooted in Buddhist traditions, mindfulness.

[00:04:58] Alyson: I've never understood what that means.

[00:05:00] Luke: It's a catchphrase. It's always seemed like an oxymoron to me because I want to be mind empty, not mind full. But I think I get the premise, which just has to do with awareness and presence. As far as a practice, there's, I would say, two overarching principles that I have been doing my best to live by for a very long time in the realm of mindfulness awareness and so on.

[00:05:32] One is built on the foundation of meditation, which I did this morning for about 20 minutes. And during that meditation, I'm observing the mind, doing the mind things, which is what it's designed to do. It's designed to compute and calculate and think about the past and the future and all those things. God bless it.

[00:05:57] But for me, the idea of meditation is to build the witness-observer perspective so that there's a gap of separation between my peer awareness and consciousness and the fantasmagoria of constant thought.

[00:06:20] I think in the beginning, and when many people first attempt meditation, we think it's about stopping the mind from thinking, which is like cutting your arm with a knife and expecting to stop bleeding. It's like the mind's never going to stop thinking, at least not for very long.

[00:06:41] But for me, what's been really helpful is detaching myself from the relevance and importance of all those thoughts because for so much of my life, if the mind produced a thought, I took that to be reality and created meaning out of it, and was essentially under a self-hypnosis where any reactions or responses or fears or anxieties or any kind of tension that my body started to experience as a result of certain thoughts, because I would have that response in the body, I took them to be true.

[00:07:27] And that led me astray in some near fatal ways for a long time in the realms of addiction. So to me, the idea of mindfulness is taking that meditative practice where I'm identifying, wow, there's a me here that's the observer of the phenomenon of thought. And that's great to do in a meditation, but to me, the whole purpose of taking that time in meditation is to apply that to my waking state, such as sitting here right now.

[00:08:03] I have to use my brain. There's some cognitive juice that's used in order to formulate what I'm trying to communicate verbally. But at the same time, there's also an awareness of me observing Luke doing the Luke Show.

[00:08:21] Alyson: Mm-hmm.

[00:08:21] Luke: And so mindfulness to me is more of a commitment to the present moment, the fleeting present moment, this moment, and then this moment, and this moment, and this moment. This will get into a whole thing, but I used to really be into this idea of being in the now. And then I started to realize like there actually is no now because the minute you say I'm in the now that now's gone.

[00:08:49] And now it's the next now. So it's like a widening of my awareness, an omni-awareness or omnipresence so that, in terms of Mokie mentioning that self-talk, I can be aware when negative self-talk or counterproductive self-talk is starting to gain momentum.

[00:09:14] So if I find myself thinking negative thoughts about the world or about other people, or I start drifting into anticipatory fears of the future, or I start to hang my sense of wellbeing on something that I think is positive that I'm anticipating in the future, if I am in the past pining over the way things used to be, or an attachment that I enjoy that I had to let go of or something in the past that was painful or disturbing in some way, and I'm re-punishing myself by re-experiencing that, mindfulness to me is the practice of just observing my thoughts.

[00:09:59] And sometimes that's in a set aside practice like meditation, and sometimes, hopefully all the time, or as much as I can do it, it's while I'm engaged in other things. It's like the email comes in right from someone. You're waiting for news. Is it going to be good news or bad news in response to an email I sent to someone?

[00:10:21] I see the reply come in. There's a very short gap of time between my oh shit and reading that. So it's like observing the, oh shit. And if I feel my body tense up, it's like, oh no, let's just open our awareness here and let go of any preconceived ideas about what this means and just read it. And it's a way of responding to things that happen throughout the day that allows me to be less reactive and have more equanimity.

[00:10:54] And also sometimes I do, I guess, what would be called positive self-talk. Like this morning when I was meditating, I was listening to, which I never do, but because it was about my dad-- for those listening who don't know, my dad recently graduated Earth School, and it's been a challenging and beautiful and all the things experienced.

[00:11:16] But I was listening to an interview I did with Alec Zeck on The Way Forward recently because I remember just being in a really deep conversation and a lot of it was about my dad. So I was listening to that and I just started crying and just grieving because of the things I was speaking about my dad.

[00:11:32] And so as I was listening to that, during that conversation, I was basically just giving my dad a lot of praise and gratitude and things like that. And intuitively, as I was doing that, I just started giving that to myself. Just going, "Man, you're doing great, Luke. You're all right." Like I always tell you, I'm like, "You're okay. You're all right. You're doing great. "

[00:11:59] Alyson: No, we don't do that anymore.

[00:12:01] Luke: Oh, yeah, yeah, that's right. Because you wanted to-- we'll get into that. That's a good one to cover. But it was just like, not like you're okay, like self-soothing, but just more affirmations of just like, I don't know, it sounds weird to say it on mic versus saying it to myself, from my soul, but just you're making great progress. You're a good man.

[00:12:21] Alyson: You're feeling all the feels.

[00:12:22] Luke: Yeah. You're doing as good as you could possibly do through this and that kind of thing. Just affirmations in terms of just doing better at loving myself.

[00:12:33] Alyson: Yeah. I think self-honor and self-respect are vital components. So I think it's really powerful to even take a few seconds each day to-- I usually just intuitively find myself doing what I was already doing. One hand of my belly and one hand of my heart, and even just saying a couple of things.

[00:12:54] To receive those codes gently on a regular basis is really vital. And when you were sharing, it was bringing to mind the practices that I've been really devoting to over the last number of months, of being in that totality field of loving awareness and also doing the parts work.

[00:13:20] Simultaneously, I'm devoting to both of those separate but intertwined practices. And one thing that's been helpful for me, because I've been delving into some really deep, dark nooks and crannies of the mind and the mental sphere over the last couple of years, it's been quite a journey.

[00:13:42] And it's so important and helpful for me to remember that the mind is just a sliver. It's just a slice of the whole pie. And it's not showing you the whole picture. And so for folks similar to me out there that are accustomed to being really successful and solving a lot of problems via thought, via the mind, it becomes, over the span of many years, an automated response when something's going on and you're wanting to figure it out and sort it out to go to the thought, to go to the analytics of things.

[00:14:22] But I've been a deep retraining practice of expanding out to that field of loving totality, full loving awareness, and knowing that that's where the true wisdom is. And it's taking practice because my knee jerk reaction is to go to the mind to solve things, to figure it out. But I'm learning to trust ever so gently and slowly.

[00:14:48] I'm pacing myself, and I've been working at this for many months, or actually probably the last couple of years. So yeah, everything you were sharing was bringing me to what I've been working on too. And just honoring the parts of me so fully. I've never been in closer, more intimate, loving relationship with myself as I am now.

[00:15:10] But arriving to where I am required going to some deep dark recesses of my mind and some areas of my psyche that have been stuck in shadowy that I didn't think were there anymore. And once I opened up to that miracle field of totality, that then let those parts of my mind and other parts know that there was a different place, a different way, and that they could get unstuck.

[00:15:40] And then it highlighted those parts. And while it was at times a very intense, sometimes scary journey, I had to trust that it was leading and guiding me somewhere. And it's taken some time. But yeah, it's really powerful work what Mokie is bringing us to. It's quite a journey.

[00:16:04] Luke: Yeah. We could do every week's podcast on that realm because the mind is so tricky because it's beautiful and useful and this whole realm wouldn't work the way it works unless we had the ability to think. But it's also most of our worst enemies. It's like you have a problem that the mind creates and then we're just habituated to go to the source of the problem to try to solve the problem, and that's a lot of crazy making.

[00:16:39] Alyson: Right. And to trust that just by simply expanding into that totality, miracle field, that there's something even wiser and richer there than what the mind can churn and produce. It's like, at first you're just like, "Ah." And then you want to go back and you're like, "No, expand back out." And it takes some time. But yeah, remembering that a part of you is just that. It's a part, and it's not showing you the whole divine miracle picture.

[00:17:10] Luke: You just reminded me of something when you were talking about creating that space where you broaden your awareness to all aspects of yourself and beyond yourself, that some of those things you thought you had worked through or didn't even know you had start to come to the surface. And you reminded me of something really funny, which I was talking to my editor, Lauren, about on Wednesday actually.

[00:17:35] She's going to do a silent meditation retreat for a couple of days, and I was like, "Oh yeah, I did once one in 2004 or '05 or something in India and it was a 21-day silent retreat." And I'm thinking, oh man, by the time I'm going with this, I'm going to be-- really, I thought I would be enlightened.

[00:17:52] It sounds funny, but it's where I was in my journey at that point. And so I go to India and have this beautiful trip for three or four weeks and 21 days of it we're at this ashram, and I'm thinking, "Oh man, I'm going to come out of here and just be so grounded. And each passing day of silence and hours of meditation and so on, I just got angrier and more irritable and more hateful and resentful. And I was like, "What is going on?"

[00:18:21] I came here to become more loving and spiritual. And I remember I'd be in the food line waiting for my doll, whatever. And I would observe my mind just looking at someone and just tearing them apart and just hating them. I don't even know them. I know nothing about them. They're just another participant in the retreat. And I just thought, what is happening here?

[00:18:44] Why am I just seething with judgment and anger and resentment and envy and jealousy? Just all these things that I thought I had moved past because they weren't part of my everyday experience. But it was that the spaciousness just allowed for those things that were repressed, suppressed pushed into the shadows of my psyche to come to the surface.

[00:19:06] And it was very confronting and uncomfortable. But then it was beautiful because it brought them to the surface and allowed me to gradually surrender them. And spoiler alert, I flew back from India and was not enlightened, but I thought I was for a few weeks.

[00:19:21] Alyson: Right.

[00:19:22] Luke: Until my friends started ragging on me for saying Namaste and wearing orange robes.

[00:19:26] Alyson: They brought you back down to earth.

[00:19:28] Luke: Yeah. But this is another thing which I've talked about before, and I know we have more questions. I'll make this quick, but that was also a really great learning experience in how the ego will co-opt other identities. So it's like I went to India to surrender my Mr. Hollywood cool. I play in a band. I work in fashion, rock and roll.

[00:19:55] Alyson: You transferred to a different one.

[00:19:57] Luke: Yeah, exactly. And the ego is like, "Oh, cool. We're doing this thing now. Now we're going to wear the mala beads, the orange robes, say namaste. We're going to act very peaceful."

[00:20:05] Alyson: Oh, you want to let that go? Well, let's go over here.

[00:20:07] Luke: Yeah. And I think that it's an important thing to talk about because it's another one of the traps. It's the thing that happens, I think sometimes when people take on a spiritual name. Not that all people are doing this. I don't think Ram Dass was taking on some other alter ego or something.

[00:20:27] But I've observed that where someone gets on the spiritual path and then realizes, oh wow, this identity that I've taken on my whole life, my career, the name my parents gave me and so on is not really who I am. Who I really am is Babo G Ross or whatever, that is going to take on this other identity, not there's anything wrong with that. It's not good or bad, right or wrong. But it's just that it's funny how the ego operates that it will cling to any position that it can stick to to feel a sense of significance.

[00:21:05] Alyson: An order. It wants to know its place. It wants to know the hierarchy. It wants to know its position. It wants to know the order. Yeah. It really, really likes that. But yeah, to wrap it up, the key thing I think that you were talking about when you first told the India story is the space.

[00:21:25] So my-- in summation to Mokie would be if you are someone who's looking to evolve and go to the next place in your mindfulness practice, I would recommend making sure that you are creating and giving yourself enough space to see if there are any areas, any components within you that have been ready to get unlocked.

[00:21:51] And maybe it's those darker, deeper areas. Well, not that they have to be darker, but just those deeper recesses within you that prompted you to even write this question because they're urging to be unlocked. Because I know that was what my process was.

[00:22:04] There were those areas that knew there was a greater liberation. And it led me and it led me and led me and then it led me to Paige and it led me to this and it led me to that, led me to doing the parts work. And I also want to advise, again, just speaking for myself, when I started to really devote to this area specifically, unlike most other areas, it did require a team of experts because of all of the parts that it unlocked.

[00:22:35] I found myself really needing and wanting to work with a couple of people who have mastery and expertise in this area because it unlocked a lot more than what I anticipated. And it's been a lot longer journey than what I ever would've dreamed. So it's worth it.

[00:22:52] My whole point in this is that when the anger and when some of these unexpected feelings come surging up, it can feel confusing and discombobulating, and you're like, "Oh my gosh, am I doing something wrong? Am I leading myself into more pain instead of more liberation?" My intention is more freedom. And sometimes, especially with the mindfulness work, it's a longer thread, and you have to really trust the process more than other processes.

[00:23:24] Luke: Yeah. And also, I think in ways that I would've never expected, it comes in stages, the spiritual path. I guess when I got started on the journey, I just thought, you just keep ascending to higher levels of consciousness and as a result, greater peace.

[00:23:43] And if it was on a graph, it's more like it goes up and down, up and down. But hopefully, if you're on the right path and you're really committed, over time, you end up at a higher place than you did when you started. But sometimes the peaks and the valleys can be really discouraging.

[00:24:00] I've been struggling a lot recently and I'm just like, "If I hadn't had the experiences earlier in the journey where there were periods where I felt like, this sounds dramatic, but God has forsaken me, what happened?" I don't feel the presence of God. Or I'm just emotionally or mentally off balance and feeling lost.

[00:24:21] And all of those other times that happened before, it eventually led to something greater. And so that's something in terms of mindfulness and self-talk, if I'm struggling, I have to remind myself that this too shall pass. And that this is part of the process. There's going to be times where I feel like I'm stuck. I'm not making progress. There's going to be times where I feel like I've regressed, and maybe I did in certain ways.

[00:24:46] Alyson: But it's like that bow and arrow thing, that effect where you get tugged back a bit to then--

[00:24:51] Luke: Oh, that's a good analogy. I've never heard that.

[00:24:53] Alyson: Are you sure?

[00:24:54] Luke: No, I literally never heard that. The last thing I'm going to add for Mokie, and I'll make this super quick, I promise, is that I really highly recommend getting a legitimate meditative practice. I think for years I was trying to meditate on my own and it's difficult if you don't have a method.

[00:25:15] And so I learned Vedic meditation years ago, which is really helpful. I studied with Jeff Kober in LA, but there's a number of people that teach it. And then also using the NuCalm app, which is, I don't know, I've been using it for years now.

[00:25:33] Alyson: That's very effective.

[00:25:34] Luke: Almost every day. I think if somebody has a difficult time meditating, getting a little neuro acoustic support is really helpful. Because even if you're not good at meditating or don't have a lot of experience with it, you put on the headphones and throw on the NuCalm app, and your ass is going to be out in theta la la land in about five minutes. So that's been really good for me in terms of just getting some spaciousness in the mind.

[00:26:02] Alyson: All right. I'm going to go against the rules here and I'm going to jump a little bit.

[00:26:08] Luke: Hey, it's your show.

[00:26:10] Alyson: Okay. We'll go to Rod because I'm excited about this one because we have quite a few things to-- or you have quite a few things to share about. Rod wants to know, what are a few of your newest discoveries and wellness products? Because I've been witness to what has been rolling in to the home front here.

[00:26:28] Luke: There's a lot of UPS activity at this house. And I knew this question was coming, obviously because I glanced over them and I thought, I don't know if I'll be able to remember them. And if I describe them, it might not have as much impact.

[00:26:42] This is the past couple of months of things, so I'll try to rattle through what I'm excited about. First one being, for those, watching the video, it's this black tower here. It looks like an old school PC motherboard, but it's called the Axiom H2H600, and it's a molecular hydrogen generator that's really cool for a number of reasons.

[00:27:10] One is it produces a shit ton of hydrogen gas reliably and very easily. In other words, you don't have to be a technically inclined person to operate it. But what's super dope about it is, for those watching the video, it comes with a cannula, so you can sit and inhale it. So I keep this thing on my desk. I'm like literally inhaling hydrogen for hours every day. So you can inhale, but then you can also, getting into real geek territory here--

[00:27:42] Alyson: Oh, I love when I walk in to say hi and you're writing your book with all this on your head and face.

[00:27:47] Luke: It's quite a spectacle. Yeah, but that's how I roll. It has two outputs, and so you can plug in these goggles and do hydrogen on your eyes, which is incredible for your vision and just like eye strain and stuff from working on a computer. And they also have these headphones that don't produce any sound, but you put these on, and you treat your inner ear in your brain.

[00:28:11] So the hydrogen gas goes into your ears and is also just incredible. So it has those three applications for getting it into the body, but then it also comes with a little bubbler that you can connect to here and you can bubble hydrogen water. And it does it in about 10 minutes. And I've tested the hydrogen levels and the oxidative reduction potential, the ORP, and it really, really works.

[00:28:38] And what's cool is when you make the hydrogen water with this thing, it lasts, whoa, I don't know, at least 24 hours, maybe even 48. Because as long as you keep the cap of the bottle closed, it will keep that negative charge and also keep the hydrogen. So I've tested the next day or a couple of days later. I'm like, "Dude, it still has it."

[00:28:58] So if I'm taking a road trip or something like that, I'll fill up a bottle of really good antioxidant hydrogen water and take that with me. So that thing's freaking awesome. Ooh, I forgot to bring it, but they also just sent me a hydrogen generating little water bottle, and I've had a bunch of these over the past couple years, and I don't know, they're all just shitty and made in China and they break soon, and there's just a pain in the ass.

[00:29:24] But the theory is good because you have portable hydrogen water, and you can do that with the little hydrogen tabs, but those get very expensive. And I like to drink hydrogen water on the plane and when I'm driving and things like that. So Axiom H2. It should be out by now. I'm not sure if it's on their website yet, but we will link to that in the show notes at lukestorey.com/599.

[00:29:47] They made a little bottle that makes hydrogen water and also has a little inhaler setup. So now when we're on the plane, I'm going to be even wackier. You're the only person I've ever dated, by the way, that's not totally embarrassed by being on a plane with me. I love you for that.

[00:30:03] Alyson: I don't care at all.

[00:30:05] Luke: So you have the little hydrogen bottle and you put water in it, turn on the generator, and then you can sit and inhale it for 20 minutes. So I'm super stoked to be able to have hydrogen inhalation and water on the fly. Next thing is, and I did a show, which covered this recently. It's this company called Eons.

[00:30:23] My friend Alex Wolfe founded this company, and they have these little tabs that go under your tongue. And I think one of the questions was about that too later on, so I'll just cover it now. And it's got an extract of Amanita muscaria mushrooms, which are the mushrooms that are famous for Mario Brothers and emojis, the red cap with the little white dots.

[00:30:45] And they can be psychedelic at high doses. I wouldn't recommend it. I tried it. It was less than fun. But in small doses and with a liposomal delivery, like they did it. You put it under your tongue and it's like taking a quarter, Xanax. It's instantly calming. It has to do with your GABA receptors in the brain, and it just shunts anxiety and nervousness, like on demand.

[00:31:09] Alyson: That's what Molly was asking. She said she got the Eons dialed, which is that Amanita muscaria.

[00:31:16] Luke: Yeah, Eons Dialed.

[00:31:17] Alyson: And she said she wants to know anything else you can share about it, reducing social anxiety. She says, "My goal with it is to become more centered. I'm having trouble with not using alcohol as a habit and in social circles because alcohol is causing anxiety. How would you use this product best for supporting social anxiety?"

[00:31:37] Luke: Oh, it's amazing for that. And I totally understand that.

[00:31:41] Alyson: Yes. I can attest to that. Surprisingly, Luke gets a bit out of sorts when we're about to head into somewhere with people.

[00:31:49] Luke: Yeah. And we can talk about why that is in a bit, but yeah, using the Eons Dialed is super easy. I just put a couple in my pocket, and before I roll in a public place or something like that, I just put it under my tongue and let it dissolve.

[00:32:04] Alyson: What does it look like? Can I see one? I don't really understand. It's not a pill you swallow?

[00:32:09] Luke: No, it's just a little wafer. It dissolves. Just put it under your tongue and it dissolves in a minute or two and then eventually you swallow it.

[00:32:16] Alyson: For someone as sensitive as me, I would want to crack that in half the first time I ever use this and only dissolve half the first time.

[00:32:23] Luke: Yeah. Super easy to do. You just break it in half.

[00:32:28] Alyson: Yeah.

[00:32:29] Luke: You would probably have to take two or three entire bottles of this to have some discernible psychoactive effect. On the bottle it says like legal psychedelic microdose tablets, which is true because if you take enough of them-- but they did a lot of testing to ensure that people wouldn't accidentally get high. And I asked him about it. He is like, "Dude, you would have to take so much." No one would ever do that.

[00:32:53] You'd have a mouthful of chalk if you tried to chew that much. So that would be my advice on that. And then also, of course, in terms of social anxiety, it's like, what are the underlying causes? Because even if I'm popping a pill, whether it's a pharmaceutical or something natural like this, it's like, what is it within me that's causing that tension?

[00:33:15] And of course that has to do with just all the other healing things that we were talking about before. Let me see. Next one is-- I don't know if I've talked about this before. This is from Mitolife. It's called Encephalon. And I heard Matt Blackburn, the owner of that company, talking about it on a podcast and I was like, "That's interesting. I'll order some."

[00:33:38] It's got a seaweed extract called Fucoxanthin. And also has quite a lot of ginkgo biloba and phosphatidylserine. And this is one of the best nootropics that I've found that is natural and not synthetic or made in a lab somewhere. And I really, honestly don't know how it works.

[00:34:05] I think it has something to do with blood flow, but this particular strain of seaweed and the way it's extracted lights my brain up in a really beautiful way. So I usually take one of those every morning. And I like it because it's not stimulating. I don't want to feel like I'm cracked out, but I also want to be alert.

[00:34:24] Speaking of alert, another great discovery recently, which thank God you had a little pack left because I went through mine in a few days. But a friend Aubrey Marcus who founded a company called Onnit and created the first really popular nootropic called Alpha BRAIN. He sold that company a couple of years ago and just started a new one called Korrect with a K, K-O-R-R-E-C-T.

[00:34:49] And their first product is called Energy. And these bad boys are freaking insane. It's made with paraxanthine, which one of the molecules in caffeine in this drink Update. If you guys watch the podcast, you've probably seen an Update sitting on this table every single time, and that's because this is my secret weapon for cognitive function and focus. Because caffeine is too stimulating for me most of the time.

[00:35:16] And so  paraxanthine is one of the three constituents in caffeine, and it happens to be the part that makes you feel alert and awake, but doesn't give you anxiety. So I drink these Updates, but it's not always convenient to take a bunch of Updates with me. So Aubrey came out with Korrect Energy, and I got to say it is absolutely mind blowing.

[00:35:37] Alyson: You had that stash that he had provided to us gone in about five days, I think.

[00:35:42] Luke: Yeah. And honestly, being in the researcher geek position that I am, I just love discovering things like this for myself and also to share with people. But brands, God bless them, send me supplements all the time, as you know. I'm like, "Our pantry is overflowing with supplements." And I appreciate people are trying to do things in the world, but it's very rare that somebody sends me another supplement that actually does something or that I feel any in any way.

[00:36:14] Alyson: Mm-hmm.

[00:36:15] Luke: So Aubrey's like, "Hey, I got this new thing called Korrect. I like Aubrey. I'm like, "Yeah, cool. Send it over." And I wasn't really expecting much. And I got to say, even the first day, I was like, "Holy shit."

[00:36:26] Alyson: Well, especially when you realized it had the  paraxanthine in it, you're like, "[Inaudible]."

[00:36:30] Luke: Yeah.

[00:36:31] Alyson: That's a genius idea to put it into this form.

[00:36:34] Luke: Honestly, that was one, I guess it's not FOMO. What do you call it when-- we need a term for like, da, why didn't I think of that? That was one I was like, "Goddamn, man. He nailed it." And I'm happy for him, but I'm like, "Ooh, I've been hoping I discover something that I can share with the world like that." And he got to it first. So yeah, the Korrect Energy is epic.

[00:36:55] And then I did a show on this a while ago, but for those that missed it, this company called XeoCharge that makes a really pure clean zeolite. And I've been megadosing this, I don't know, 20, 30 grams a day for months. And it's just been an incredible detox tool. And contrary to popular belief, and I guess it depends on who makes it, but this particular zeolite, people think that it's introducing aluminum into your body because if you lab test it, it has a certain type of aluminum.

[00:37:34] But it's not bioavailable, so you don't absorb it from this particular zeolite. Anyway, we'll put that episode in the show notes, but out of all the detox stuff I've tried over the past 29, 30 years, I would say this one is the most gentle and has the least Herxheimer reaction with it.

[00:37:52] And what I notice is if I take it right before bed, I wake up feeling much more clear and refreshed in the morning than I normally do. And if I don't take it, I'm a little more groggy, harder to get up. And so I think the toxins in our environment and in the system and also just toxins that your body produces through its mechanism of living, endotoxins and things like that, I think it just mops all that stuff up. And so your blood is essentially cleaner when you wake up. So XeoCharge is freaking awesome. Hand me that bottle.

[00:38:29] Alyson: Mm-hmm.

[00:38:29] Luke: Now, again, I recently did a show about this. This is called Little Saints. And this is a non-alc cocktail. And so I know you don't care for this flavor, Juniper. I do.

[00:38:43] Alyson: I have no poker face. But I love--

[00:38:45] Luke: You like the ginger one?

[00:38:46] Alyson: I love Megan. I think she's amazing. And I'm genuinely obsessed with the ginger one. Hard pass on that one.

[00:38:54] Luke: I don't drink alcohol for a number of reasons. I guess you just don't really like drinking alcohol.

[00:39:00] Alyson: It just phased out a long time.

[00:39:01] Luke: I don't know if I like it because I haven't done it in so long. But I do like putting some ice in a beautiful glass and having a little cocktail. And so what Megan's done with that particular formula--

[00:39:12] Alyson: You mean mocktail?

[00:39:13] Luke: Yeah, it's beautiful. It tastes really good, and it tastes like a gin or a tequila. It has--

[00:39:20] Alyson: Potency.

[00:39:21] Luke: Yeah, it has potency. It has plant terpenes and medicinal mushroom extracts and things like that.

[00:39:27] Alyson: Some of them have a smokiness.

[00:39:29] Luke: Yeah. So it's cool. It's been a way that I can enjoy that without ending up in jail or worse.

[00:39:35] Alyson: What about my favorite?

[00:39:37] Luke: What's that?

[00:39:38] Alyson: The Deez nuts.

[00:39:39] Luke: Oh, yeah, yeah. Okay. So this is a new discovery here, but it was--

[00:39:46] Alyson: I actually requested this.

[00:39:47] Luke: Yeah, this was a rare Alyson wife biohack request. She's like, "Oh, my doctor says I'm low on vitamin D. I need to start taking vitamin D or get a vitamin D lamp." And I'm like, "Eh, I don't know." I'm not really convinced that vitamin D supplements are that great, and I'm very convinced that the sun is amazing, but you can't always make the time to get the adequate amount of sun at the right time of the day when the UVB is high, etc.

[00:40:18] And you also have the UVA, and if you spend too much time out in the sun, it can be damaging to your skin and so on. I don't believe it causes skin cancer. I believe blue light and lack of sun does. But nonetheless, I just intuitively have never felt great taking vitamin D supplements.

[00:40:33] So this freaking thing is called the Chroma D-Light, for those watching on the video. And what's rad about it is that it doesn't just have the UV light that produces vitamin D. I was looking at the manual this morning. I just got this couple of days ago. It's got 850 nanometers near infrared. It's got 670 nanometers deep red, 405 nanometers violet, and 297 nanometers UVB, and 760 near infrared, and 630 red.

[00:41:11] So essentially, it's got the best spectrum of sunlight without the parts that could be harmful with too much exposure. And I'm going to turn it on. And there's a rule. You're not supposed to ever look into it. I'm going to try not point it at the dog, you, or Jarrod, or myself.

[00:41:31] Alyson: Or even the camera, right?

[00:41:33] Luke: The camera's fine. No, you just don't look right into it. But you can hear the fan going, because this freaking thing is super, super powerful. And what's rad about it is that it produces, I think it's like a 1,000 ugs of vitamin D in 30 seconds or something. It's crazy because it's so powerful. And it's so powerful that you can't look into it. But also you can't hold it in one spot of your body or you'll get a sunburn.

[00:42:04] Alyson: Mm-hmm.

[00:42:05] Luke: It's freaking epic. So it takes anywhere from one to five minutes to treat your whole body and get your vitamin D dose every day. And I just think that's such an incredible invention. And because it's LED based, you don't have to worry about-- some of these vitamin D lamps are made with fluorescent lights, and so you have to be careful not to break them.

[00:42:28] They're full of mercury, and they don't have the output, the power output to actually give you the dose in a short period of time. You got to stand there for 20 minutes in front of a freaking light panel. So this one's super quick. It just go all over your body, and it's freaking amazing.

[00:42:43] Alyson: You get your vitamin D's.

[00:42:44] Luke: Vitamin Deez nuts. That's the chroma, what's it called? D-Light. The Chroma D-Light. And they make a bunch of other spectrum of light devices, which I haven't tried, but this one's super cool.

[00:42:57] Alyson: Complete with that?

[00:43:00] Luke: Yes, there's one.

[00:43:02] Alyson: The homeopathy or do that--

[00:43:04] Luke: There's a couple other things. Yeah. I get excited when-- and there's so much stuff out there that sucks. When you find something that doesn't suck, it's amazing. This goes back to Mokie's question about mindfulness, and we're talking about meditation. And I've talked about this before. This isn't new, but it's something I'm really starting to gain an appreciation for after going to Holon.

[00:43:26] This is the NeuroVizr. And so the way this works is you put on headphones, there's an app, and there's a light panel that faces your eyes. You close your eyes, and there's these guided meditations or just songs and binaural beats and things like that that put your brain into different brainwave states. And so I've been using this a lot for just short little 10-minute meditations.

[00:43:49] Alyson: I can also attest to that being a true statement, daily.

[00:43:53] Luke: Because we're laying in bed. If she's sitting there reading or something, I'll have to put a big pillow between us because the flashing light is super annoying if you're not the one using it. But the  NeuroVizr, super cool. Great investment. And also, they redesigned it so it's really easy to travel with.

[00:44:09] The little light pack is magnetized and just pops off. So it's harder to break when you travel, and it's really convenient. So that one is another one that's like, dude, 10 minutes a day, and it's like changes your life.

[00:44:22] Alyson: Nice.

[00:44:25] Luke: Oh, there's one more. This one's very new.

[00:44:28] Alyson: So many things.

[00:44:28] Luke: This one's very new. This is called the Zona, and this is a cardiovascular isometric training.

[00:44:34] Alyson: Oh, that's what I wanted to try, the grip.

[00:44:36] Luke: Yeah. And I've had it for a while and I was just like, "Eh, I don't know. What's this thing do?" I didn't really get it. Interviewed a guy yesterday named Mark, oh my God, what was his last name? Mark Young. Yeah, great guy. And he just geeked out on this thing. And it was very, very compelling based on all the research they've done. And I guess one of the reasons I didn't really gravitate toward it was I thought, ah, I'm not dealing with hypertension.

[00:45:02] My heart seems fine. And then he shared a stat with me that 45% of people in the US have hypertension, have issues with their cardiovascular system, heart issues and all the things. And those are only the ones that are actually being diagnosed. So it's probably way higher.

[00:45:24] And I was like, "Okay." And that's for all ages, but if you get into people my age, the old folks like me, 54, I don't know what the percentage is, but it's going to be exponentially higher than that. So I thought, you know what? As a preemptive to avoid having problems in the area before, I'm going to start using this thing.

[00:45:42] So that's the Zona. And it's super easy. You just basically grab it. It does a strength test. And then as isometric exercises go, the idea is that you keep a steady pressure. And when you hold it, it tells you to squeeze more or squeeze less so that you can stay in that zone.

[00:45:59] Alyson: How long do you hold it for?

[00:46:00] Luke: The whole session is 11 minutes. So it's two minutes per hand.

[00:46:05] Alyson: I'm curious because when you first told me about it, and everyone can obviously listen to the deep dive with Mark, but yeah, upon glance it's like, wait, how does gripping this little gadget in your hand help your heart?

[00:46:20] Luke: It's crazy. One of the things it does is it makes your body produce nitric oxide, and so it softens your blood vessels, capillaries, arteries, etc. So that constriction of the system of tubes in the body where the blood and oxygen flows for a number of different reasons, over time as you get older, they start to get stiff and hard.

[00:46:43] Alyson: Crusty.

[00:46:43] Luke: Yeah, and crusty. Or they just get calcified and full of plaque so that it takes more work for your heart to move the blood through your body. And so this does the process of softening those and opening them up, vasodilation, and so on. I need to use it more. I'm about to keel over.

[00:47:05] Alyson: Do you need to take a moment?

[00:47:07] Luke: No, I'm okay. I'm just joking.

[00:47:08] Alyson: Okay.

[00:47:11] Luke: I had a mouthful of mambe and it all just hit my throat all of a sudden. Oh, there's one more thing. No, there's two more. They're fast. They're fast.

[00:47:22] Alyson: I didn't know we had such a smorgasboard up here.

[00:47:24] Luke: Yeah. This little guy right here, which I probably can't get it to light up because there's light in here, this little freaking light is super cool. This is a motion sensor red light from Bon Charge, and it's just a cheesy little light, but I got a couple and set them on the steps. And so I just set it on the side of the steps, and at night, when I don't want to turn on a bunch of bright lights, as soon as you move toward this thing, it turns on the little bright light and lights the stairs.

[00:47:56] And the cool thing about it, doesn't take batteries. It is USB charged. And so that's been another great way to mitigate the blue light and not have to have a bunch of bright lights on at night and also not be wasting energy with lights on when you don't need them. So that's a little motion sensor. And they also have a plug-in, little night lights and stuff that are red. We have one in our bathroom. Yeah. I'm always keen on new ways to get rid of blue light and introduce red light.

[00:48:28] Alyson: Indeed you are.

[00:48:30] Luke: Okay. Last thing. Now this one I'm going to preface by saying I've known about homeopathy for decades and I just, I don't know. I'm going to be honest. I always just thought it was, not fake, but just boring. You can't taste it. It's like, what's really in here? It just didn't seem legit. And I recently listened to a podcast, again, with Alec Zeck on The Way Forward, and he had this woman on who did hour and a half, two-hour--

[00:48:58] Alyson: Is it her?

[00:48:58] Luke: Yeah. Yeah, the founder of this company RMDY, R-M-D-Y. And I was like, "Oh, I've never really been into homeopathy or whatever. It seems weak sauce." And I listened to that and I was just like, "Holy shit." The history behind homeopathy and what the pharmaceutical industrial complex has done to annihilate practitioners.

[00:49:21] It's one of those things the enemy of my enemies is my friend kind of thing. I was like, "Okay, if this was bullshit, why would they have worked so hard, the Rockefeller medicine system to annihilate practitioners." And so I was like, "Okay, if they're against it, it must be good."

[00:49:37] So I got this whole kit here, and it comes with a little booklet, and you basically make yourself preparations for all kinds of different things. So I just started using this, doing every one of them that is good for your ears, which is another whole topic. But yeah. So I'm just exploring this. I haven't seen the results yet because it's only been--

[00:50:00] Alyson: Where's that little booklet? Because I found that intriguing because in there, yeah, there's remedies for everything, from colds and flu and fever to abdominal pain, cramps and colic. Injuries and bruises, parasites, hay fever, which people live in Texas, that'd be super supportive for them. Digestive problems like nausea, bloating, cuts and abrasions, coughs. There's so much that I'm now looking forward to exploring that.

[00:50:34] Luke: Yeah. And like I said, I haven't done it long enough to see results, but that interview was impressive enough for me to give it a college try. So more to be continued on the homeopathy results, but I'm curious to see what happens. And if I find that it works, I'll probably track that woman down. I don't recall her name at the moment, and see if we can get her on the show. Because I've never covered that topic because it just never piqued my interest until now.

[00:51:00] Alyson: All right. Question number three from Amy. This is the desert island scenario. If you were stranded on an island and could only have one health modality/piece of knowledge gained, what would that one modality or practice/wisdom be? You're by yourself on a deserted island.

[00:51:27] Luke: That's easy. The easiest one is sun. I think sunlight is just the ultimate healing--

[00:51:33] Alyson: But that's a given.

[00:51:34] Luke: Well, that's what I'm saying.

[00:51:35] Alyson: You're bringing.

[00:51:36] Luke: I'm going to just put that one to the side. Because that's already a given and I think it's the thing that most people are missing.

[00:51:43] Alyson: Side note, if your answer's not your wife, then no.

[00:51:46] Luke: Well, don't do that because that's my answer.

[00:51:49] Alyson: Oh, sorry. I didn't think that that would be.

[00:51:51] Luke: Yeah. Other than the sun already being there, so that's a given-- so I can't use that one-- yeah, the number one modality, if I could reduce our experience together to that, which seems funny, is love. It's connection. God, deserted island, I'd have to be there with my favorite person in the world, which of course be you.

[00:52:15] Alyson: Great answer.

[00:52:17] Luke: That would be the answer whether you were here or not because it's just the truth. But I think that, and all the things I just talk about, like all these technologies and wellness tools and supplements, it's like all that to me is just novelty. It's just like, ooh, a vitamin D. Cool.

[00:52:33] When there's not enough sun, or I don't have time to get out in the sun, let me do that. But nothing trumps intimacy and connection and love, giving love, giving of yourself, generosity, being able to receive. I think that's the most healing energy in the universe. And so that's what I would bring.

[00:52:58] Alyson: Wonderful answer. 10 out of 10, 11 out of 10. And we do say all the time, even when really deep things happening, like your dad crossing over, or very mundane things happening, like when we were in our two-year renovation, going to the tile store for the thousandth time, we just are happy and have fun. As long as we're together, it doesn't matter to us what we're doing. So thanks for bringing me along to the deserted island.

[00:53:29] Luke: Yeah. I think that's a sign of a good relationship, is if you enjoy each other no matter where you are or what you're doing.

[00:53:40] Alyson: Yes, I agree. I think this would be really helpful to everyone listening, whether they want to believe it or not. Kate asks, "What are your tips for detoxing microplastics?" Because that really seems to be an issue these days.

[00:53:56] Luke: Yeah, you've probably noticed, because anytime you bring anything synthetic--

[00:54:00] Alyson: I get the side eye.

[00:54:01] Luke: I start to freak out.

[00:54:02] Alyson: What was it recently?

[00:54:03] Luke: I just threw away Cookie's teddy bear, yesterday, by the way.

[00:54:06] Alyson: Oh, the squeaky one?

[00:54:09] Luke: Yeah. Because she's licking it. Chewing it. It's a microplastic Chinese bomb. I probably just got us kicked off of YouTube again from saying Chinese. Or not YouTube, TikTok rather. I got kicked off TikTok because I was interviewing someone and they said, "Yeah, we make our supplements with American made, blah, blah, blah. We don't use cheap Chinese ingredients." And they nuked me just for that. They hate that. F you China.

[00:54:35] Alyson: Honey.

[00:54:35] Luke: You can take your TikTok and suck it.

[00:54:38] Alyson: Honey. Oh gosh.

[00:54:40] Luke: No, it's annoying. I can't stand censorship. It's so wrong.

[00:54:44] Alyson: I know what you're--

[00:54:45] Luke: Not the Chinese people. I'm talking about whoever's doing the naughty stuff at TikTok.

[00:54:50] Alyson: Naughty.

[00:54:51] Luke: What was the question again? Oh, microplastics.

[00:54:55] Alyson: Yeah. You got so fired up.

[00:54:56] Luke: Now there's these memes about microplastics in the testes and stuff, which I'm sure is probably true. Number one is exposure. It's taken a long time, but even just if I'm buying clothes online or something, I'm always looking for things that are 100% cotton, sheets, towels.

[00:55:18] I was just thinking the other day about the Swiffers. You know those things that you use to dust the floor? I'm like, "Those are microplastics." It's just freaking everywhere. The furniture, little throw pillows, dog toys.

[00:55:32] Alyson: House slippers. You got me those really cool ones. I almost wore them up here, but I thought they'd probably look crazy on camera, which, whatever. But they look like bigfoot, like wool lamb--

[00:55:43] Luke: Shearling slippers. Yeah.

[00:55:44] Alyson: Those are so cool. And now we have different moccasins and things because--

[00:55:48] Luke: Yeah, so first thing is just try to incrementally get it out of your life. It's not always possible because-- sofas, for example, we have a leather sofa down there, but the other one, our big cushy, whatever you call it, pit sofa, which is amazing, it doesn't come in natural fibers. Or when I put out my merch line, couple of people were giving me shit because I have polyester blend, not in the t-shirts, thankfully, but in the hoodies. And I'm like, "Dude, do you think, I don't know that. I looked literally for two years when I was putting that merch line out."

[00:56:17] By the way, lukestorey.com/merch, I think is the link. And no one that does POD, print on demand, which is like the companies that manufacture and ship your stuff, literally not one company in the entire world had 100% cotton hoodies. So I'm like, "Okay, it doesn't go--" I wear them because it doesn't really touch your skin. I'm not going to wear polyester on my t-shirt or something.

[00:56:41] So first part is try to get rid of it when you can out of your experience. And here and there, it's like it is what it is. We can't be too freaking neurotic about it. In terms of detoxing, the zeolite that I mentioned from ZeoCharge is incredible for getting the plastics and all of their metals and everything out of your body.

[00:56:58] Saunas. I'm in that SaunaSpace sauna, or the Sunlighten sauna. I'm such a fan. We have two of them-- different types that do different things. But sweating is a really good way to get toxins out of your body and binders and also just making sure that you're doing regular colon cleansing, liver flushes.

[00:57:19] Global Healing has a really easy, super, all in one pack for liver cleansing. It's like opening up the detox pathways and making sure that your eliminatory organs are all functioning correctly so you don't build things up over time. So I think it's just building some of the basic detox protocols into your life. And maybe adding in zeolite, some other binders, activated charcoal.

[00:57:43] Alyson: It could be cool if you put a list of-- I don't know if this makes sense because I haven't thought it through. It just hit me. But a list of things that we have chosen to have around the house that a lot of people over the years have gone the route that might have not natural fibers, but we've found-- what's that towel brand? Coyuchi or whatever.

[00:58:08] Luke: Yeah, Coyuchi sheets and towels.

[00:58:09] Alyson: And then the house slippers that we were referencing. I wonder if there could be a cool, non-microplastics reference list that you could give people, household items or--

[00:58:21] Luke: Yeah, I think we have a category at lukestory.com/store. I'm pretty sure we have a home section on there.

[00:58:29] Alyson: Oh, okay.

[00:58:30] Luke: But that's a good point. I know I definitely don't add everything that I find that's cool in that regard on there, but that's a good idea. I'll make sure that we have a central location where all this stuff is.

[00:58:42] Alyson: And I've even found some really cool women's clothing lines like this right here. It's all organic cotton and linen.

[00:58:52] Luke: You're a great shopper. She gets some little package shows up from India and I'm like, "What the hell? How did you even find that?" She's like, "TikTok."

[00:59:01] Alyson: No, I don't find my clothes on TikTok.

[00:59:03] Luke: Where do you find your clo-- because she gets these amazing things. And you're such a cheap date too. You're not like, "Ooh, I'm going to go on Net-a-Porter. I need the new Givenchy Spring collection."

[00:59:14] Alyson: I've literally never said that sentence in my life.

[00:59:15] Luke: She'd be like, "Honey, I bought this thing, and it was $95 or something."

[00:59:19] Alyson: I've never owned a designer purse. No whatever to whoever. My sister owns a lot of them. It's like, no judgment. That's just not my steez. It's not my lane. I don't care about designer anything.

[00:59:32] Luke: Yeah.

[00:59:32] Alyson: But anyways. Okay.

[00:59:34] Luke: You could develop a training program for people that want natural fibers and really great style, and they're super cheap. You have a knack for it.

[00:59:47] Alyson: Yeah. I'll remember that when the next dress shows up in a couple of days from Bali. Remember the pink one I put on, the organic home spun cotton one the other day. I loved it so much, and it fits so wonderfully, and it felt so great that I just started it also in red.

[01:00:04] Luke: As you should. It's beautiful.

[01:00:07] Alyson: Okay. And it's all hand sewn and a plant dyed or organic--

[01:00:15] Luke: That's what I'm saying, dude. You're next level. I don't know where you find this stuff.

[01:00:19] Alyson: Yeah, it's organic plant dyed, hand sewn, organic, home spun cotton.

[01:00:25] Luke: Talk to some of these people you're finding and see if they'll make my merch for me. I'm so annoyed. I can't just have 100% organic cotton or linen.

[01:00:33] Alyson: They probably would.

[01:00:33] Luke: And natural dyes. It's like really hard to do that.

[01:00:36] Alyson: The natural dye colors are so gorgeous too. That blushy pink and the red one coming is like this muted, deep wine-cherry red. Really, really gorgeous. Luxurious. Okay. Let's see. I like this one. Ryan asks, what are some of the things you've come to believe or understand about this reality that you don't share with the public?

[01:01:00] Is there anything too disturbing that you hold back on? Or are there theories out there that you avoid deep diving because part of you doesn't want to know? Yeah, stuff that you've bit your tongue on a little bit, which is hard to imagine with you because you're so transparent.

[01:01:15] Luke: That's a really good question. And it's funny because it's oxymoronic. If it was something I didn't want to talk about, I certainly wouldn't hear. There's two things. One is, ah, man. How do you even say this without-- I don't really care what people think I sound like, but I don't want people to be afraid or have a negative view on the world.

[01:01:48] But over the past few years, and I've been looking into conspiracy theories for 20 more years or something, probably since 9/11, however long ago that was, and I used to hear things about the people that control the world or Luciferian pedophiles and all this kind of stuff, and I was just like, "Oh, that can't possibly be true because God created the world and there's so many good people and so much beauty and so much love. That's just too much.

[01:02:18] But over the past few years, I think with the availability of information, despite all the censorship on social media, and people being able to have more peer-to-peer communication and people like me and others able to create their own media companies and share subversive or counter narrative information, there's just been a lot of factual evidence that's come out to support the idea that the people that run the world are really sick people.

[01:02:48] And so just things that I would've never believed before about the level of depravity and darkness that's being done by the people that pull the strings on society is pretty hard to grasp. So that's one that's dark. And it doesn't really do me or anyone else any good to focus on it because then then I'm part of that darkness.

[01:03:18] So my overarching philosophy there would be, don't fight the darkness. Make the light brighter. And that can be taken as a bypassing of the shadow. So I like to just say, "Hey, this is a thing. The world does have some really dark evil people that are anti-life, anti-human. There's an anti-human energy on the planet.

[01:03:45] And for whatever reason, they're very cunning and clever and they seem to have gained control over a lot of the aspects of our life, education, medicine, media, finance, etc. And so that's the bad news. The good news is that more people are becoming aware of it and being willing to face some of that darkness and create an alternative reality.

[01:04:10] So you could think we're in the great reset or the great awakening, depending on which perspective you take. And so I'm aware that we are in the midst of a great reset. And also at the same time, in that duality, a great awakening. So I think that darkness is something that I am aware of and wish wasn't true. The topic in conspiracy land that I find myself editing and a bit in the closet about--

[01:04:41] Alyson: Drum roll, please.

[01:04:43] Luke: The one I'm a bit in the closet about, except to my friends, because they understand I'm a very curious and open-minded person, I want to know the truth no matter how much it hurts or how crazy it is. I've done a show on it, so it's not a big secret, but I had this guy, Flat Earth Dave on the show. Amazing guy who you've met many years ago in New York.

[01:05:04] And I had that conversation with him, and just seeing different pieces of media here and there over the years, I got to say, I have seen much more evidence to support-- verifiable, repeatable, quantifiable evidence to support the world being flat, the earth being flat, than being a round ball floating in space.

[01:05:26] I've just not seen any compelling proof that it's a ball floating in the vacuum of space. Any evidence to support that is NASA, CGI, cartoons and a bunch of fakery with these "supposed astronauts in a supposed spaceship." And then you see they're hooked up to harness wires and the green screen pops out. The moon landings.

[01:05:54] Alyson: Oh, here we go. We popped the lid off--

[01:05:57] Luke: Dude, the Challenger shuttle "explosion" that supposedly killed seven or eight astronauts. And then 40 years later, they're all alive taking on another identity with the same name. I it's just like there's so much deception, fakery, the fake X, the Tesla Roadster, floating around in space with the top open and the astronaut just chilling, like driving a car through space. And they're literally claiming that's real. That guy, Elon, he says that's real with a straight face.

[01:06:37] Water doesn't curve. You can see too far. There's so much proof what the world is. I don't know. It's probably so interdimensional and so malleable of a reality that it's all the things. But I do believe there is a conspiracy to hide the true nature of what the earth is.

[01:06:59] And I think the reason for that conspiracy is to deny us of our experience of the creator. Because if it is a random, chaotic, dangerous ball floating through space at zillions of miles an hour, whatever, there's always asteroids coming. It's like everything is based on fear and that would negate a creator.

[01:07:28] Whereas if you have a world that is more of an intentional realm at the center of the universe, a geocentric model, then it inherently leads you to, well, something or someone created this place. It's not all just random and accidental and dangerous. It actually gives one a sense of security and belonging and purpose and creates meaning.

[01:07:57] So I don't know what it is, what's on the other side of the ice wall of Antarctica and so on. It's still an open question in my mind. But I think that's something that I used to hear some people in the fringes talking about, and I'd be like, "Okay, I'm with you until you get to that, and you're nuts."

[01:08:14] It's like, how could you get all of these years of all of these scientists and astrophysicists and all these really brilliant people, astronomers, astrologers, etc., how do you get all of them in on a conspiracy? That's the part I couldn't get past. And why would they go through all of that trouble?

[01:08:31] But when you get to the why and then start picking apart some of the claims, none of the claims are convincing to me whatsoever. Because you can't repeat what their claims are. You can't make water curve and stick to a ball. You can't do it. Show me that in a lab. You know what I mean?

[01:08:50] So I don't know. But what I do know, it's like 9/11. I have no idea what happened, but I know the official narrative is complete bullshit. And so I don't know what the earth is exactly. If you take DMT, you realize you're just making it all up and it's all an illusion anyway.

[01:09:10] But what I'm pretty sure of is that the narrative we've been given in terms of our cosmology is so easy to pick apart and falsify. So there's a lot of big lies there, and I don't know what the truth is. I just have a very strong sense of what the lie is.

[01:09:35] Alyson: This is a lane that I don't feel called to unpack and really discover for myself, but what I will say is that I feel a sense of relief that you've been able to, in this moment, speak more freely publicly about this because it's something that you are very passionately curious about. And I see very few other things light you up as much as when someone comes to you, like your brother's wife, Emily.

[01:10:12] When we're in Florida a few months ago and she's just like, "So Luke." We're at the beach and she's like, "Tell me about this. What do you think about this flat earth stuff?" And you'll get so excited, you'll get a stick, and you'll start drawing stuff in the sand and pointing. Do you see? Doing diagrams. And so I am happy for you that you have been a bit more freely liberated to speak your ponderings and curiosities about flat earth.

[01:10:39] Luke: I don't like being lied to. I don't like being deceived. And so when I get the sense that I'm being deceived, or that the entire human population is being deceived, that gets me excited because I want to find out what the truth is. And if I'm being deceived, why? What's the purpose?

[01:10:59] What are they trying to hide? Why? And again, going back to the thing that I think, if all of that cosmology is kind of smoke and mirrors, which the moon land, so much of it, verifiably is-- the Tesla in space. Dude, come on. Are you serious? You could look at that and be like, "Dude, that's real." Bro, bros, broettes.

[01:11:23] When I see something that's so obviously untrue, then I go, "What is true then?" And again, I'm humble enough to say I don't really know, but there's a number of different things that just don't add up, and I can't get past them. I just can't. I can't get past it. The fact that you can see too far, period, either means that the globe, this ball that we're supposedly on is exponentially bigger than we've been told.

[01:11:50] And so you can see the curve is a longer curve like if you're on the beach and you're watching a ship go over the horizon. The way it is now, the math doesn't add up because if you have a telescope, you can still see the ship. I think it's eight-- I forget the mathematics on it, but I've looked into it a zillion times.

[01:12:13] Just don't have the brain that recalls it, but basically the ship would already be over the other side of the curve if the earth was round and the same size that they've been telling us it is. But if you zoom in, you can still see it too far away. It should be on the other side. It should be gone. Which means, either it's flat, or as I said, it's way, way, way bigger.

[01:12:33] So it just takes a much more distance for it to go over. And there's probably 250 examples just like that that are like, okay, we've just disproven what the claim is. And the thing about it is, is the burden of proof is really the responsibility of the person or organization making the claim.

[01:12:54] It's not even up to the person who's trying to debunk something to disprove it. It's if I make a claim that something's true to you, Alyson, then it's my responsibility to prove to you that it's true. It's not your responsibility to poke holes in my claim. See what I mean? So it's like, okay, if I'm led to believe otherwise, then show me some compelling proof. And I just can't find it. But if anyone wants to shoot us an email and send me some proof that--

[01:13:25] Alyson: Oh gosh, do you really want to open up that?

[01:13:27] Luke: I don't care. I want to learn, I want to know the truth. Yeah.

[01:13:32] Alyson: All right.

[01:13:32] Luke: The last thing I'll say about that, and probably one of the reasons that I haven't expressed that curiosity that much publicly is that particular conspiracy is by far the single most triggering. If you start talking about this, people absolutely lose their shit because their whole model of reality is based on that ever since--

[01:13:54] Alyson: Well, it's one of the foundational things we get ingrained in our brain and our psyche, is that we live on a globe and all the pictures in schools show [Inaudible].

[01:14:02] Luke: Every movie, every TV show, every classroom, everywhere you freaking go, there's a globe. So it's like, I think the cognitive dissonance of that particular one is very challenging for people because it annihilates your entire reality.

[01:14:18] Alyson: Yeah. It can be frightening on an unconscious or very deep soul level to even fathom, well, if that is not true, then what else about me, my reality, this world, I'm functioning in, what else is untrue? And on a even an unconscious level, it can be terrifying to people to even want to peel back that curtain.

[01:14:41] Luke: Yeah, I get it.

[01:14:42] Alyson: So I'm actually the one running out of time. I have to head to a Texas allergy appointment. So whatever you want to wrap things up with, closing statements. Thank you to everyone who wrote in. But Mark, we didn't get to your tinnitus AKA tinnitus question. There were a few that we didn't get to, Nick about terrain theory. So I guess we'll save those for next time.

[01:15:14] Luke: Yeah. We'll do another one. And I want to let you guys know, if you're listening to this and you're like, "Oh, cool, I want to submit some questions." You can send them to hello@lukestorey.com. And we will archive those and compile them for future episodes.

[01:15:31] I love doing these, and thank you so much for being willing to be my co-host here. It's much more fun sitting and hanging out with you and just having a spontaneous time than trying to talk to a computer like a pundit. So I appreciate that. And the show notes and everything that we discussed here can be found at lukestorey.com/599.

[01:15:51] I will also let people know that if you're interested in learning how to protect you and your family from EMF, I've got a free-- did you hear that? Free, F-R-E-E, five-plus-hour video course called the EMF Home Safety Masterclass. And you can get that in the show notes here today. Because we get a lot of questions about EMF and I'm like, "You guys, dude, this is why I made a whole freaking free course about it."

[01:16:23] But everything from all of the different meters you use, all the different sources of EMF in your house, every freaking hack in the world to use to shield it, harmonize it, anything and everything I've ever found to be useful in that realm is taught in that class-- shielding paint, making your bedroom a Faraday cage, just all the things. So that's a really valuable resource for people that's free. And we'll put that in the show notes too.

[01:16:49] Alyson: Wonderful.

[01:16:50] Luke: Yeah. And I think that's it.

[01:16:52] Alyson: All right. Well, this was fun. Thanks for sharing, and thanks for having me.

[01:16:57] Luke: You got it.