573. Bridging Masculine & Feminine: A New Era of Collaboration & Celebration w/ Luke & Alyson Storey

Alyson Charles Storey

November 29, 2024
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My wife, Alyson Charles Storey, joins me to share our learnings about blending the masculine and feminine energy in our relationship, prioritizing communication, and grounding in authenticity to navigate the new era energy.

Alyson Charles Storey is a bestselling author and shamanic teacher. She is devoted to being of service by living by the calls of the Divine and practices she has mastered, along with being a student of God and wholly connected and expressed human. She leads world-wide courses, events, and talks to reconnect people to their fullest Divine power through sacred relations and practices.

Alyson is host of the internationally acclaimed Ceremony Circle Podcast and bestselling author of ANIMAL POWER book and deck. Alyson’s power animal journey was named “a top meditation to try” by Oprah Magazine, she has been called "a full-fledged guide into your psyche” by Forbes, and her media presence was named one of the top seven wellness accounts by Dazed Magazine. Alyson has been the resident energy guru for the world’s top wellness platform and collaborated with a range of media outlets including the New York Times, HBO, National Geographic, Well + Good, Art Basel, NYLON, mindbodygreen, Elle, & Self.

DISCLAIMER: This podcast is presented for educational and exploratory purposes only. Published content is not intended to be used for diagnosing or treating any illness. Those responsible for this show disclaim responsibility for any possible adverse effects from the use of information presented by Luke or his guests. Please consult with your healthcare provider before using any products referenced. This podcast may contain paid endorsements for products or services.

I’m stoked to welcome back my partner in all things love and life, Alyson Charles Storey. Alyson is not only my wife, but also a powerful shamanic teacher and spiritual guide whose gifts have profoundly impacted my journey—and I’m certain they’ll inspire you too. In today’s conversation, we reflect on the many dimensions of partnership: the sacred balance of masculine and feminine energies, the importance of intentional family check-ins, and the new era energy we’re excited to welcome in.

This episode is a heartfelt deep dive into the lessons we’ve learned in our marriage when it comes to prioritizing communication and honoring the synergy of our gifts. We share how our complementary energies make us stronger, the rituals that keep our connection alive, and why tuning in to what truly excites us is key to navigating this new era. Alyson also opens up about the transformative power of sacred pauses on her shamanic path and how staying grounded in authenticity has been a compass in both of our lives and work.

We also reflect on the HBO documentary Breath of Fire, take a deeper look at the collective energy shifts happening this November, and offer our take on how we can foster unity in divisive times. It’s always a gift to have Alyson on the show, and we hope this conversation inspires you to cultivate more awareness and authenticity in your own relationships and life.

(00:00:08) Wedding Anniversary & Breath of Fire Reflections

(00:18:29) Evading the False Allure of Fame & Embracing Sacred Pauses

  • How our relationships with the media and celebrities help us to evade the allure of glamor 
  • The reward of being authentic instead of putting on a mask 
  • How sacred pauses on Alyson’s shamanic path have benefited her
  • How Alyson was able to earn a living during her sacred pause from the limelight

(00:39:01) Celebrating a New Era & Weaving Masculine & Feminine Energy

  • The astrological forces at work with this new era with Pluto leaving Capricorn
  • Exploring the new concept of the village oracle woman being brought back to life 
  • Celebrating the weaving of feminine and masculine energy 
  • How to stop seeds of division and move towards unity
  • The creative power and potential in honoring our differences
  • How Luke has learned to trust Alyson’s intuition & Alyson has learned to trust Luke’s logic

(01:00:57) How to Tune in to What Lights You Up & BTS of Our Family Meetings

  • How to tune in with yourself about what lights you up in this new era architecture
  • Nicole Adriana Casanova: nicoleadrianacasanova.love
  • Honoring our winged ones as the originators of song
  • What energy Alyson is bringing in to 2025 
  • Why we prioritize family meetings and what we share with one another 
  • Ksenia Brief: kseniabrief.com
  • The importance of daily check-ins and communication about how you’re feeling

(01:16:51) Chakra Elimination & the Power of Perception

  • Understanding the practice of chakra elimination 
  • Read: Making Love to Source by Sunni Karll
  • Maintaining mental and emotional sovereignty 
  • Recognizing the power of perception and why it’s important to check in with your higher self

[00:00:01] Luke: Happy belated anniversary, wifey.

[00:00:04] Alyson: Oh, I had no idea what you're about to say. I was like, "Belated. What?" Yes. Happy anniversary. I know.

[00:00:11] Luke: For those listening, we did have a happy anniversary on the day, so it wasn't as if I forgot.

[00:00:19] Alyson: That's a good clarification point. Yes. It's always nice remembering those milestone memories, I guess, but also, which I am very happy about, we've always been a couple that, I don't want to say we don't care about that stuff, but it's not that important to either one of us to make some big, huge to-do. And if one person is busy, tired, or maybe forgot until a few days before and didn't have a ton of time to prepare something, the other one is never going to be butt hurt.

[00:01:01] Luke: That is for sure. I think that's one of the fun things about being two people that live very spontaneously and in the moment. That's one of the benefits-- maybe not so much of a benefit-- is that sometimes not a lot happens because we're not that forward thinking in terms of planning out every cool weekend and date for the next six months or a year. It's just like, "Oh. Hey, this thing just came into our awareness. It sounds fun. You want to do it?" So there's a gift in the spontaneity and also not being attached to making big ordeals of things like that. But I wanted to say it anyway, because it's been a wild and beautiful ride.

[00:01:48] Alyson: It has been very miraculous, God-centered, God-informed, and God-led as well as our souls being a part of those three things that I just said as well. And yeah, so I think we chose on that day, which it's November 8th, right?

[00:02:09] Luke: Yes, honey.

[00:02:09] Alyson: For me, and some people really trip out when somehow anniversaries are coming up or wedding dates. I typically say, "I know it's sometime in November," but sometimes I do forget, and people are always so caught off guard, weirded out, or tripping out over that.

[00:02:30] And I'm like, you have to understand, our wedding date is not a date that you and I sat down and meditated on and consulted charts in the heavens and picked a date and planned for years for this particular day. We literally flew to Las Vegas to give separate talks at a sacred psychedelic conference and God provided a download that we could get married while we were there, and we did. So it's like November 8th is only significant because it's the day we randomly spontaneous ended up getting married by elders.

[00:03:06] Luke: It's also the day I first launched my business, November 8th.

[00:03:10] Alyson: Which is helpful for you.

[00:03:11] Luke: Yeah, it does help. November 8th, 2008 was when I founded School of Style and had my first class as a teacher. But yeah, I think what makes our anniversary fun for me, even though it wasn't a big traditional wedding, was just the hilarity that we were married by an Elvis impersonator in Graceland Chapel.

[00:03:38] Alyson: Hallelujah. I still am so thrilled that it wove together in truly a divinely orchestrated way, believe it or not. It's absurd. It's hilarious. It's pretty random, but also it was truly speaking of the God-informed, God-led thing. That was truly never a thought that had crossed my mind.

[00:04:00] I'd actually never been to Vegas. I'd only been to other parts of Nevada. So it wasn't on my personal radar at all. And I don't know, I always dislike repeating stories. And I don't know if I've told this before, but yeah, it was only when the plane was getting ready to touchdown again for a work, 48 hours, quick work trip in Vegas that I remember the exact spot in my brain that the download came in, and I just casually turned to you, spoke the download out loud, which was, "Hey, we could get married while we're here."

[00:04:35] There was no conversation because we were packing our bags to deboard to deplane. And yeah, it somehow all came together, but I really relish in it. And it's also so curious to me too how, I think it was only two months after we had that Elvis wedding, remember they put the kibosh on those, and they're no longer possible because the Elvis estate for whatever reason, I don't know the details, but they didn't want Elvis impersonated weddings happening anymore in Vegas. So we were in the last crop of folks who could ever have that be possible.

[00:05:11] Luke: That was the best ever. It's hilarious.

[00:05:14] Alyson: It was. And then the last thing I'll say just around this kind of theme is it is easy for me to remember our first official date because my birthday is New Year's Day, and our first official date was New Year's Eve. And remember how I thought you were going to surprise me with the cake because you vanished right before the ball was about to drop, right before midnight. Luke disappeared.

[00:05:42] And I was looking around because we were at this big Kundalini gathering, which was really lovely by the way. And a couple of our friends were there, Bree and Elliot. And within 10 minutes of it turning midnight, I'm looking around everywhere, and I can't find you. And I'm not bothered by that, but my mind went to, "Oh, I bet he's in the back room, lighting the candles to a birthday cake."

[00:06:09] Because it's somewhat rare that somebody has a birthday as soon as the clock strikes midnight on New Year's Eve, which is the case for me. And I don't even remember if you made it back even before it turned midnight. You might. If you did, it was--

[00:06:25] Luke: No, it was after.

[00:06:26] Alyson: It was after. So then he comes--

[00:06:28] Luke: I was up taking videos for Instagram on the balcony.

[00:06:32] Alyson: When he came in empty handed with no birthday cake and no thing, again, my feelings weren't hurt by it. It was more hilarious that I had created this picture of this story in my head that that's what you're doing and then you just flow in from getting Instagram story videos and just like, hey. But you did what was really cute as I remember you-- I think I was sitting on the ground and then you, if I'm not mistaken, knelt before me and you were like, "Can I give you your first kiss of the new year?" Or something like that. And I was like, mm.

[00:07:08] Luke: That was the first kiss.

[00:07:09] Alyson: Yum, yum, yum.

[00:07:10] Luke: Mm-hmm.

[00:07:12] Alyson: Yeah

[00:07:12] Luke: How fun. What a fun ride it's been. What was your take on the-- speaking of Kundalini that we just finished watching this series on HBO called Breath of Fire?

[00:07:24] Alyson: Gosh.

[00:07:24] Luke: Yeah. Which is really well done. It's really compelling whether or not you knew anything about that scene, but it was around Guru Jagat. He was a former guest on this show many years ago. And that whole scene, it was really wild for me to watch as someone who wasn't necessarily involved in the Rama or 3HO world, which this was focused on. But I was a regular practitioner of that yoga for many, many years.

[00:08:00] Took teacher training and taught some of it, and it was really beneficial to me. And then over the past few years, all of this shady stuff around Yogi Bhajan and then Guru Jagat came out, it was really wild to watch that having had some years apart from that whole scene. What was your objective experience of it?

[00:08:21] Alyson: I feel a little bit of a hesitant percolation coming up in me because I didn't know-- and I know you probably didn't know that we were going to talk about this either because we normally just flow organically when we do these episodes. But yeah, there's just a part of me as a fellow female spiritual teacher that really doesn't honestly want to speak to it at all publicly because, for one, I actually never met her. I know you know her, and I think pretty much almost all of my friends knew her or were very close with her.

[00:08:59] But there's just something that wells up in me that's from like, I don't know what right words would properly classify it, but just this deep reservoir of sacredness in terms of, again, I never met her, and I know what it takes to embark on a completely devotional path. And I know what one may have to endure, especially when you're a female spiritual teacher, especially when you're a female spiritual teacher that is supposed to be also a public figure and front-facing in the media.

[00:09:41] And it's absolutely not for the faint of heart. Period. And if anyone thinks that it is, I welcome you to attempt the walk. You get what I'm trying to say? It's like I personally didn't know her, and there's just like a fellow mutual respect current that's opening up inside of me of like, yeah, I don't know that I really want to touch it for those reasons.

[00:10:15] Luke: Also, we just watched it. There hasn't been a lot of reflection. And also, it's just one production company's interpretation of events.

[00:10:26] Alyson: To which she wasn't able to speak for herself, obviously. So I guess regardless of all of it, rest in peace, Katie Griggs, Guru Jagat. That's all I feel comfortable saying.

[00:10:40] Luke: Yeah. You know this. Anytime there's any documentary about a cult-ish organization, I find that really interesting having had some direct experience with a very cult-ish boarding school for two years when I was a teenager and also just as someone who's been at different times interested in different mystics, spiritual teachers, and saints around whom organizations have formed and sometimes they've gone well and other times not.

[00:11:12] So I'm always just interested in that dynamic, the cult of personality and how people who have a spiritual yearning are drawn to different teachers, leaders, organizations, and some of the things that can go awry even within well-intentioned organizations.

[00:11:32] Alyson: Yeah.

[00:11:32] Luke: It's just a fascinating social phenomenon to me.

[00:11:36] Alyson: No, it is to me too. And one thing that we did chat about briefly after last night's episode was-- and again, let me preface this by saying I am absolutely not discrediting anybody's experience. If you feel like you were wronged or harmed in a cult, I'm sure that was a very real and true experience for you.

[00:12:01] And like you said, you yourself went to a boarding school that has I'm survivor of support groups from that school that you attended. So my own husband has been in a similar situation, but at the same time, I just think what was shared on last night's episode rang to be true.

[00:12:25] You can classify any group as a cult. And I think if you especially are on the outside of that group and don't walk a spiritual path, it can easily be looked at as that. And I know that I have a lot of friends who run spiritual groups, and they have been called cult leaders. And I know for a fact these people are not running a cult. And they're not cult leaders. Again, I'm not saying that that does not exist out in the world. I'm just saying that it opens up a very watery pool when you start to label things as a cult.

[00:13:06] Luke: Yeah. Well, it takes someone from the outside or someone who is formally in it to define it as such. I saw something recently from some people that I think are really wacky, but critical of Aubrey's Fit For Service thing. And I don't even know a lot about Fit For Service. I know him, Kyle, and a few people directly associated with it who have been great friends and great people to me. But I haven't been a member of that. But to me it seems like, I don't know--

[00:13:44] Alyson: A really lovely group of people coming together do good work.

[00:13:47] Luke: Doing good things in the world. I haven't seen anything that sounded strange or looks strange to me from the outside, again. So yeah, I think anyone that's going to get groups of people together that have a shared mindset or shared belief system is potentially prone to that. And there are also, of course, throughout history, many people that might've started out with pure intentions and spiritual gifts, and then, their ego, greed, and thirst for power has gotten the best of them, and they've mutated into something that is--

[00:14:26] Alyson: Which can absolutely happen. And that's one of the things when you do answer the call to being a "spiritual guide, spiritual leader, spiritual teacher," you really, and so many different parallel universes, realms, within yourself, outside of yourself have to keep specifically that piece so in check. There's a trillion things that any integrity-filled spiritual guide has to monitor 24/7 within themselves. But that one is toward the top of the list. Because the ego, if left unchecked, can get squirrely in some real sneaky ways real fast.

[00:15:10] Luke: Yeah, the fallen guru phenomenon has always fascinated me because you have someone who has authentic spiritual gifts and insights, and you could say, in a positive sense, power, has powers.

[00:15:24] Alyson: Yeah, real gifts.

[00:15:25] Luke: Yeah. But then beacons of light can also attract dark forces. And many of them over time have obviously succumbed to the temptations of power, sexual exploitation, and kinds of dark stuff. So yeah, it's--

[00:15:43] Alyson: You really have to watch the motivation in such a ruthlessly self-honest way, the motivations behind the steps you're taking for your spiritual brand, for your spiritual classes that you're teaching, for the spiritual courses that you're launching. It's truly continuously checking yourself on what is honestly the driving energetic force that is inspiring me to create X, Y, and Z.

[00:16:14] Because you embark on this path because you want to be of service. But again, if you leave things going unchecked, it can morph fast, especially if you start to get attention and if you're not used to being in the public eye and then that's something that really juices up that ego. I think it's interesting for you and I, and I'm not saying this makes us immune to this piece we're talking about because we keep each other in check and ourselves individually in check with our egos all the time.

[00:16:47] But before I had my spiritual awakening, I had been in the media since the day I was born. I literally was born into the newspaper. I was really well known as a child prodigy athlete, which went through being a college athlete. And then I was a radio host at a hip hop station. I was a television host for national daytime television talk show.

[00:17:14] I was a television producer for major networks in New York City. I was literally born into the familiarity of the public eye and the media. And so I'm grateful that I have that history because that's not one of the pieces. When the veil lifted and I started to see why I'm really here and how my shamanic gifts are to express publicly and through the media to reach the masses, I don't get any tickly feeling because there's a write up about me or something. You know what I mean?

[00:17:49] Luke: Yeah.

[00:17:49] Alyson: That's not going to veer my ego off course, which I'd never really thought about in that way until now.

[00:17:57] Luke: Yeah, it's funny. In a different way, I think for me, I've had some help with immunity to that in that I worked with celebrities for so many years, and I got to see the false idol syndrome, seeing someone who was adored and worshipped by millions of people and seeing them at face value in real life, and seeing how deeply flawed many of them were, or if they were healthy, integrated people, that they were just a person behind that phenomenon of fame and lure of glamor.

[00:18:40] So I got to see, oh, okay, this one's drinking their own Kool Aid and they're not human anymore because they believed their own hype. And then you meet someone who has seen through that and knows that they're just playing a role and that's how they make a living. And being a celebrity is just an artifact of them being a great musician, actor, or something, but they're still just--

[00:19:01] Alyson: Super low key about it.

[00:19:02] Luke: Yeah, grounded, normal person who acts the same. On a shoot, for example, you could see one type of celebrity that had some humility about them would treat a PA the same way they would treat the director. And then you'd have another one that come in and treat all of the lower ranking staff or crew members like shit, and then would be very respectful and ass kissing to publicists, producers, directors, etc. You get to see that.

[00:19:32] Alyson: Oh yeah.

[00:19:32] Luke: I was always behind the camera, so I was a nobody in that realm. But the only things that I ever did in public had to do with being in recovery and speaking at meetings. And when you're a speaker in Southern California and LA, it might be a few hundred people, and you get up and speak for 45 minutes at a podium and things like that at different recovery groups.

[00:20:04] And you learn real quick that you can't bullshit bullshitters. And so my training as a public speaker was from a crowd that are just waiting to eviscerate you and looking for any signs of ego or pride. And if you were to get up there and really think you're special, you'll find out in real time with very obvious body language and other feedback that you're full of shit. You need to sit down. So it was like a trial by fire.

[00:20:40] Alyson: Yeah, what great training grounds though. That's incredible.

[00:20:43] Luke: Yeah. It's training in authenticity and also staying right size. Just because you're at this podium speaking and sharing your experience, strength and hope, your wisdom, and taking some ownership of that, hopefully not pride, that that doesn't put you in any higher position than those in the audience. So there's a leveling there that I just cut my teeth that way.

[00:21:11] So I don't perceivably feel like I've ever felt better than anyone as a result of having a platform or going to speak at conferences and things like that. I'm like, I'm literally just the same as the person sitting there. I just happened to be the one that had something to say that someone wanted to hear. And so they put me over on this side of the room with a microphone.

[00:21:32] Alyson: That's really interesting though. I had never connected that, not either-- I guess I'm having a new layer of appreciation for both of our backstories and the history of the paths we walked, which if you listened to a couple episodes ago that you and I did, I'm saying I don't really like any more to reflect back.

[00:21:55] But yeah, I think that that's really interesting because you do really command a stage, and when you give talks, I've always been so intrigued at the natural magnetism that you hold. And I would put money that a lot of that was garnered through your literal countless almost 30 years of--

[00:22:23] Luke: Hundreds.

[00:22:25] Alyson: That's wild when you look back. Don't you think it's fascinating though once we realize why we're really here and we're answering that true God and soul infused calling within us that we can look back and see the things that prepped and trained us so that when we did finally allow ourselves to get out of our own way and to really be stepping into our calling, that we're equipped with all of that?

[00:22:54] Luke: Yeah. Also, I think one thing that I learned was that in those kinds of scenarios in which I was chosen to be a speaker, which is you're amongst a group of people that have failed at life objectively. So you're not giving a speech at the Academy Awards. I mean, you're talking to a bunch of people that really need help and you've gotten that help because you needed it.

[00:23:23] And now maybe you have the ability to help other people. But one thing that I started to realize over the years is not only was my message better received when it was given with authenticity and vulnerability, but it actually helped facilitate my own healing and my own ongoing education. Whereas, getting up in front of people and putting on a show or trying to be who you think they want you to be so that you get their approval is very empty feeling and fleeting because there's a part of you that knows the person they're liking is not even who you are. It's the mask or the persona that you're projecting to those people.

[00:24:10] And so the accolades, approval, popularity, pats on the back, or whatever it is that you get don't really land because what you were sharing with them wasn't your authentic self. Whereas in situations in which I felt like I was really just authentic, truthful, and speaking the language of the heart rather than the language of the mind, I'd have beautiful interactions with people afterward where they have tears in their eyes and I have tears in my eyes and we're having real authentic connection, and that would just fill my heart so much that it helped me to be able to discern like when I was going in that direction that felt so much more fulfilling and enriching versus going the other direction of wanting to be liked, popular, and all of those kind of things. It basically just feels more relaxing to just be yourself.

[00:25:07] Alyson: Yeah. Oh my God.

[00:25:08] Luke: Even if you don't know that it's--

[00:25:09] Alyson: Just in real life too.

[00:25:11] Luke: Yeah, exactly. We were going to talk about that today.

[00:25:14] Alyson: Oh my God, yeah. I'm just so glad I didn't gain along life's path any propensity to just not live fully transparently and honestly. And I'm also glad that my own soul and God given grid, before I incarnated, didn't have those chips put inside of me like something that I had to work on or overcome.

[00:25:43] I don't have the energy to be anything but honest. And that's what I always remember about myself. I've had to refine what I would consider a gift in me of just I really can't be anything other than just honest and authentic. I've had to refine delivery and really tune into each scenario in each person.

[00:26:12] There's still some curve balls that happen even when you're that thoughtful about it, but I wouldn't be able to keep up. I wouldn't want to keep up. And I don't have the time or energy to construct, craft, and just all that stuff. But one thing before we get going down that track-- sorry, I'm-- with the allergies and seasons changing in Texas, having to take a lot of deep breaths, and I'm feeling some potential Cedar vibes starting to roll into town here.

[00:26:46] Luke: Got to get you on the Browns gas, babe.

[00:26:48] Alyson: Yeah. I got to get back on that. But one thing that I started to reflect a bit on that I'm so grateful for, and I mentioned it last night and, for whatever reason, just want to speak to it now in terms of things we're grateful for when we reflect back on our path, is the pacing that God really impressed upon my heart to take once I had my divine intervention and spiritual awakening.

[00:27:15] And I was sharing with you again that time when I was living in New York City and really doing nonstop, really massive shamanic events and ceremonies and gatherings with hundreds or thousands of people and partnering with many of the biggest brands on the planet. Some might view it as at the height of part of your career path. Things were really, really happening.

[00:27:46] And I'll never forget. I got back to my apartment in Brooklyn and God so clearly spoke to me and told me I needed to stop giving all talks and stop doing all events. And also, I'm so grateful that I fully surrendered to living by God's instruction. So I knew I was going to heed that. But then my only stipulation back to God was, well, I'm a single woman who does not come from money, living alone in New York City.

[00:28:15] And so how might thou continue to make a living if you want me to instantaneously stop doing all the things that are helping me pay my rent? But I'm just so glad because-- actually, I don't think I want to reference the Guru Jagat documentary because, again, I don't know her personally, but just some of the things felt like they got a bit frenzied and rushed or over consuming with the robustness of some of the things continuously happening potentially on her path.

[00:28:54] It just brought me to that reflection that I'm speaking to and how grateful I have been led to so many, what I call sacred pauses along my personal devoted shamanic path. And sometimes those sacred pauses go on for years. That one that I was just giving the example of went on for almost three years.

[00:29:15] I, again, have been on one that's been about three years in terms of-- I would really say that I've been semi-retired/fully retired at times over the last few years, devoting to our path to trying to conceive and all of that. And I'm so grateful that my ego doesn't push me to ignore those instructions from God.

[00:29:38] And that again, my ego is not so tripped up in being this public figure, author, whatever, teacher, that when I'm told I need to remove myself a bit or fully from the limelight-- I have no problem doing that. And I feel my life is all the more empowered, and the enrichment. There's just such a unique energy that I feel I'm gifted when I allow for the sacred rest, the sacred semi-retirement.

[00:30:14] And then when I'm guided, like right now I have a new book idea that I'm really inspired by and I'm really lit up and excited about. And I actually enjoy brainstorming it each day a little bit and just seeing what ideas come in. And that feels really good. But this is the first book idea that's really let me up since Animal Power came out a number of years ago.

[00:30:36] So anyways, I just wanted to speak to, and I'm not saying every person on the spiritual path is supposed to live this way because we all have a unique encoding and a unique way to be here and be of service, but I would recommend taking some beats, taking some rests, and removing yourself intermittently. Because things can just get ahead of you. And again, that squirrely word is coming in. It's just good to stop, recalibrate, and check yourself.

[00:31:21] Luke: I think when one's identity and self-worth are tied into their public persona, it's only a matter of time before that's going to crash at a certain point. And if that's all you have to rely on for your sense of value, that's something you can't really control; can be taken away at any moment.

[00:31:48] And it's also based on your continued production. If you want to stop producing and people aren't getting that version of you and you're not getting that feedback to sustain you and you don't have anything internally can probably be pretty dark.

[00:32:05] Alyson: Yeah, yeah. And I can hear some listeners asking the question, well, how did you make a living? So I just want to quickly answer that. The idea that was really divinely given to me is because I had the background that I had in media, and I actually got my degree in advertising, went to the School of Communications at the University of Alabama, studied PR and all of those areas within that school. I then was able to take those two and three quarters of a year, almost three years of that sacred pause for me, where I removed myself from the public and from the limelight for the most part.

[00:32:48] And I was able to help other healers and spiritual teachers that I felt in alignment with. I helped to rise them and empower them and get them into more of the media and the spotlight. So I launched shamanic PR, and I would help guide other practitioners who just have no understanding of any of that stuff, but they're really great guides, and they're really integrity-filled, and they're really naturally great speakers, but they just had no idea how to start that facet of the lane outside of being a one-on-one healer. So that's the answer to--

[00:33:30] Luke: I remember that when we were still friends, just when we were in the friend zone. I remember when you were telling me about that, yeah, I'm just in a new phase and just in my apartment in Brooklyn and not going out and not doing the things.

[00:33:44] Alyson: So thank you again to Pure Love, God, Goddess, Earth Mother, to my guides, my main go-to team for instructing me to take those pauses. I'm really grateful I know how to do that.

[00:34:00] Luke: Amen. What else do you want to talk about?

[00:34:04] Alyson: Let me get my trusty sheet of paper out here. Look at all this.

[00:34:07] Luke: I love when I don't have to hold the notes.

[00:34:08] Alyson: Look at all this writing I have on here.

[00:34:10] Luke: Oh.

[00:34:12] Alyson: It's not maybe that exciting. So yeah, I don't know.

[00:34:15] Luke: We'll find out.

[00:34:17] Alyson: I feel like the best flow piece is this new era energy. And in my mind, I hear you saying new era like you do falconhead.

[00:34:31] Luke: Falconhead. New era.

[00:34:33] Alyson: Yeah, that.

[00:34:34] Luke: When we were building this house, we lived in an apartment complex called Falconhead. So I used to say that. It sounded very metal.

[00:34:45] Alyson: Falconhead. I can't do it.

[00:34:46] Luke: Falconhead. It's very metal.

[00:34:47] Alyson: Every time we drive by it, not every time, but most of the time we drive by it, still you do that.

[00:34:52] Luke: It'd be a great name for a thrash metal band in the '80s.

[00:34:56] Alyson: Yeah. So new era time, it's really ushering itself in. I can't be the only one that's been feeling this. Yes, one piece that might be adding to the new era emergence for me is the fact that I'm a Capricorn, and I don't really follow or live by astrology at all, but I do know that Pluto has been in Capricorn for the last 16 and a half years or 16 years, and Pluto is widely known as the planet of death, birth, the underworld, deep transformations.

[00:35:31] And so I know there's probably other Capricorns who are listening right now being like, yes, because we have been in it. So deep bow to all my fellow Capricorn brothers and sisters out there. Because I know for sure the last 16 years of my life, yeah, it's been a full-on journey. So I'm intrigued. It's about to move out of Capricorn I think-- when will this air? Do we know?

[00:36:01] Luke: I don't know. Pretty soon. Couple of weeks, I think.

[00:36:04] Alyson: So I think by the time this airs, it will have just--

[00:36:07] Luke: I think the end of November.

[00:36:09] Alyson: So I think it moves out of Capricorn on November 19th or something like that and goes over into Aquarius. But with that huge shift that will only happen once in our lifetime, there's this whole new timeline that's being born. And the phrase that kept coming to me, I think I posted about it a month and a half or two months ago was specifically those two words, new era.

[00:36:34] Luke: New era.

[00:36:35] Alyson: Yeah, that. And so it feels very different. It's not a rebirth. It's not bad. It's something else. It's a new era. And so I wanted to just bring this to light. If the folks joining us for this episode haven't really felt into this piece, I would invite you to see if this resonates.

[00:37:00] And if you could begin to construct an entirely new architecture inside of yourself that would help to start to inform a new way of living in your new era, what would be a part of this new architecture? And once I started to dream into that, I got really clear. One piece that I I'd like for us to unpack a bit more is the village oracle woman brought back to life.

[00:37:34] The whole concept of how hundreds or thousands of years ago, it was completely commonplace to have an appointed oracle of the village, or a medicine woman of the village or witch healer of the village who is just known. You go to this woman for her seership, for her tinctures, for her advice, for her guidance.

[00:38:00] And it's my belief that somewhere along the way, when the churches started to come into play more and more and it was more about the preacher and priest vibes, I believe that's when they wanted to portray a lot of these women, witches, and oracles as these dark magic sorcerers that were bad and doing these dark things and really killed off this whole most natural way of our societies and cultures functioning.

[00:38:36] And so I've really had God impressing upon my heart so loud and clear over the last few months on a personal individual, just within my own self level, on a level even within our marriage, on a community and a collective level. I've been super completely out of the closet doing this work for 15 years or something now. So it's not about me stepping out as an oracle. I've long been out from pretty much the day I had my awakening.

[00:39:11] But it's just this, okay, right now, with these new era energies birthing, with this new timeline birthing, with this whole new paradigm on earth that has been really opening up over the last couple of few years, the village oracle, how does she live within me, and what is her place now? What is my place as one of countless village oracles walking the planet right now? What is my place right now here in this town, here for the world?

[00:39:47] And it's just been so beautiful and mystifying and just really beautiful for me to be dreaming into that, praying into that, and seeing how that's informing this very foundational new era architecture that's starting to build and form inside of me. It's a very exciting place within my own being right now.

[00:40:18] Luke: Based on the historical relevance to this idea of the feminine being squashed and diminished out of the leadership in terms of culture, what came to mind for me was the elimination of masculine energy men that right now the masculine is very demonized.

[00:40:48] And I think, this is the conspiratorial side of me, that throughout history, there have been just power-hungry people that have formed into small groups and have sought to extract energy resources and control over larger groups of people. And in that demonization of the town oracle, shaman, witch burned at the stake, the same thing has happened to the masculine.

[00:41:18] And I think for me, the new era is having a lot to do with some of us waking up to the fact that we've been suppressed in those ways. And so our relationship dynamic here in the home is a really great microcosm example of the power in unity and the power in those complementary forces working together and celebrating one another.

[00:41:48] And something that you know that I've been a little bit slow to learn is to really realize what an asset your abilities are in that way, specifically to the piece of the oracle, the incredible intuition, discernment, and inner knowing that the feminine is so skilled in, and it's like then the masculine in me and when I've checked myself is like, yeah, just sheer force, charging ahead, and making things happen, building, constructing, moving forward, setting goals, and crushing them. And there's beautiful energy within that.

[00:42:33] Alyson: The falconhead energy.

[00:42:34] Luke: The falconhead new era energy. But if I was a petty tyrant who wanted to control people--

[00:42:45] Alyson: A petty tyrant? What is that?

[00:42:48] Luke: That's someone who is inherently weak and lacks creativity, but has a thirst for power because they're trying to overcompensate.

[00:42:56] Alyson: Oh, P-E-T-T-Y?

[00:42:57] Luke: Yeah.

[00:42:58] Alyson: Okay. Got it.

[00:43:00] Luke: I wouldn't want empowered women who were oracles and were really tapped into their discernment and intuition, and I wouldn't want strong men who were able to toe the line and were willing to die for their community and their family and their wife and their kids. Those are the ones you really want to eliminate.

[00:43:22] And when you get two of those energies together, regardless of what gender they are, masculine energy and a feminine energy, and they form a union, now you have something that's very difficult to penetrate, and it's something that can really move things forward in terms of self-empowerment and self-empowerment that then reverberates throughout their inner circle, their family lineage, into their immediate neighborhood, community, micro-community into the macro community. And all of a sudden you have a more empowered society as a result of that.

[00:43:58] Alyson: Yeah. Our home right here, which I oftentimes refer to as a temple, it very much is. It sits atop a small hill, and it overlooks-- it's just like a beacon, just sending transmissions out. And yeah, I really like how you spoke to that this is very much alive in our real life and our personal life away from these microphones and have brought to mind the classic, I think Gandhi quote of, be the change you wish to see in the world.

[00:44:33] And the other quote who, I don't know who said this, but something like if you want to change the world, change yourself first. I might've said that, I don't know. But it is that. At times over the years there might've been a wonky wheel on this cart of us figuring this out.

[00:44:55] But the vision that keeps coming to me in this topic is it's a weaving. And sometimes it takes the two people in the relationship or in the marriage a bit of time, especially if before entering into the marriage, like we both were celibate and single for a long time, and then all of a sudden you find one another.

[00:45:17] So you have to give yourself a little bit of a grace calibration, recalibration time. But then, yeah, it's this new weaving where even though you might be in that masculine, more driving force, inertia capacity, keeping the bigger picture in mind that you have a true oracle of a wife sitting in the next room and taking enough of, even if it's just a blip pause on the inertia radar to come out and consult the family oracle for whatever, a potential business partnership, launching a new product, or is it even worth the time to take a meeting with this person, whatever the case might be.

[00:46:11] Because in the long game, and again, in that biggest picture, divine web, that is the more efficient route as opposed to not taking that pause of the blip on the radar and pausing the inertia of the divine masculine force, and you just keep forcing on, not consulting the oracle, and then taking some missteps that cost way more time, way more energy that probably will end up getting into an argument with your wife over.

[00:46:42] It creates potential exhaustion for the family unit. So I think that's just an important point to speak to because I do appreciate you, your drive. It has allowed me to learn so many different parts of myself over the last few years and experience life in a way that I didn't know was possible in terms of this semi-retirement of last few years that wasn't necessarily on my wishlist.

[00:47:13] And then once it started happening, I was like, "Oh, this should have been on my wishlist. This is amazing." And I wouldn't be able to experience that if you didn't have that strong masculine energy in you. And you are such a powerful producer and creator, and I am equally as powerful if sometimes not more powerful in my oracle, in my seership, in my God-given gift of discernment.

[00:47:38] So again, my point is in the big picture and the long game and the holding of the lines that you're holding as a family structure, the most efficient weaving is taking a brief pause out of the masculine drive to consult the oracle.

[00:47:56] Luke: Yeah. It reminds me of that term, blind ambition, where you're just charge forward like a bull and you get things done, but you break a few things along the way.

[00:48:06] Alyson: Yeah, bull in a China shop.

[00:48:09] Luke: Yeah.

[00:48:09] Alyson: You're breaking some valuable China along the way.

[00:48:12] Luke: And this obviously is just a universal principle. It's not restricted to a couple or a marriage or something, but I think part of the new era is each of us learning how to identify what our strengths and weaknesses are with and without the construct of masculine and feminine energy. Just what are you good at, and how does that align with what life path lights you up? What are you passionate about, and where do your passions and your innate skills collide? That's the thing that the world is asking of you and the thing that's going to ultimately provide the most fulfillment for you.

[00:49:01] And as each individual person is most fulfilled and aligned with their mission, that ripples out to your kids, your friends, and your family. And again, it's all going back to the individual really identifying who they really are and identifying those strengths. And then also being honest about your weak spots and finding people with whom to collaborate, whether it's in a romantic relationship or not to fill in those gaps.

[00:49:38] And learning how to actually celebrate your differences. People talk about unity, and there's so much division. It's just like, dude, that's because people aren't celebrating people that are different from them in terms of their perspective, talents, and worldview.

[00:49:56] Alyson: Yeah. That's a very good point.

[00:49:58] Luke: We're set up, I think, largely through indoctrination and propaganda to operate in the world through adversarial relationships rather than open-mindedness, the ability to listen, and the ability to admit when you were mistaken or admit where you might not have a strong suit. And so I've learned so much in our relationship.

[00:50:23] I don't feel like, for example, my talents are being diminished. If we have a family meeting and you're like, "Hey, here's some things that I see that you might not see," I've come to value that as like, Oh my God, I'm the luckiest guy in the world because now I have the things that I'm really good at, but I also have someone who's very different in their abilities that's complimentary to me.

[00:50:50] And now we have a real force of nature to work with. There's a lot of creative power and potential in that because there are things that I'm really good at that you're less good at and vice versa. And so rather than trying to be like one another and get into a competitive dynamic, it becomes more and more complimentary.

[00:51:14] And so it's been fun for me, actually. As I said, I've been a little slow in realizing this, I think just because I, through my life circumstances, have been in a position to have to be self-reliant since I was really young. There wasn't a lot of guidance and support. And so I've just been self-will, like, I got to figure this shit out. I've been in survival mode my whole life.

[00:51:36] And so settling into a marriage like ours has been a learning experience in learning that I don't have to figure it all out myself. And that when I do it's probably going to get messy at times and, as you said, be a lot more work in the long run. So it's been fun for me to go, "Oh, wow." If I'm stuck on a decision, there's someone in the next room, I can go, "Hey, here's this thing, this opportunity or this person," or whatever it is, and go, "Just feel into this."

[00:52:09] Alyson: And not even stuck. Just an additional opinion on it. Even if you feel really sure, which that's happened at times, you've thought pretty sure about somebody and then I'm like, "No way."

[00:52:26] Luke: It also takes time, I think, in relationship to build trust. Not trust as in that person's going to deceive you or something, but the kind of trust where you can depend on that person's abilities. So it's like if I'm operating more from a masculine point of view, I'm thinking about things logically, what makes sense, it's a very mental process to do something or not do something.

[00:52:59] And you've had to learn how to trust my decision making about things and just go, "Okay. I don't really understand what he's talking about or where he's going with this thing, but I trust that he's smart enough to figure it out because he's using his mind." And so you've developed that trust.

[00:53:16] And likewise, I'm not as tapped into the subtle energies, intuition, and just the gut feelings that you get and your discernment and in many cases, very psychic abilities. I think we all have that, but I'm just less in touch with that than you are. So I've had to learn how to trust say, "I want to hire a new pool guy," or whatever. And you're like, "Hmm. I don't know, man. That guy's energy is weird."

[00:53:42] I'm like, "What? He's fine. Big deal." Because it makes sense logically to me on paper. Knows how to do the job, gave me a quote. Makes sense. We haven't had a problem with the pool guy. I'm just using an arbitrary example.

[00:53:56] Alyson: We love you, Alberta. Shout out to Alberta.

[00:53:58] Luke: Arbitrary example. And then I've at times in the past ignored those cues and I'm like, "Ah, she's just being a little too picky." Whatever. I discounted your seership. And then time and time again, your intuition has proven itself to be true. Therefore, my level of trust in your inner emotionally guided perspective has grown.

[00:54:30] And likewise, your trust of my intellectual, more logical way of doing things has grown too. So it's not an either or. I think the power and the new era is in all of our relationships, no matter how intimate they might be to really identify other people's strengths and learn how to work together in cooperation and collaboration to build the kind of world we want to live in.

[00:55:00] Alyson: Yeah. Amen. Also, with the new era, Jarrod, if you wouldn't mind, there's a dish of bugs on our altar-- yes, that is correct. I meant to grab this before. Thank you, Jarrod. Here's my bug. This is my museum specimen dish for--

[00:55:21] Luke: I set my coffee down on the coffee table the other day, and there is a dead baby tarantula sitting right on the table. So you never know what you're going to find around here.

[00:55:31] Alyson: Yeah. But I did want to honor these winged friends, this beautiful butterfly, this gorgeous locust, even this fly. We still got to shout out the fly, this beautiful phoenix moth. Look at that. The color probably won't pick up on camera, but it's the most beautiful mossy forest green. It's so stunning. Got to be gentle with these. And then there's a cacao encrusted bee. Very, very tiny and delicate. There's a whole story with how she became cacao encrusted.

[00:56:15] But one of the things when you're speaking to the importance of checking in with oneself pretty regularly, I'm like, "What really lights me up now?" That's a very important part of this new era equation for those that are wanting to tune into this new architecture that might want to birth, is sitting in meditation with specifically that question, really, truly.

[00:56:37] Okay. What lit you up? I don't care what lit you up over the last year, the last decade. If you've been a bowler all your life, going to a bowling place. What do you call those places?

[00:56:48] Luke: Bowling alley.

[00:56:49] Alyson: Bowling alley. Yeah. I almost said a rink, a bowling rink. We should go bowling sometime.

[00:56:54] Luke: Let's do it. We have one right down the street.

[00:56:56] Alyson: Yeah, that'd be fun.

[00:56:57] Luke: Then we could call you bowling alley. [Inaudible] is over there on the way out.

[00:57:05] Alyson: But when I do these regular tune ins, one thing that rose to the top of my current new era check in list of what lights me up is the concept of wing and song. And my dear sister, Nicole Casanova, I knew as soon as she launched this online singing program, I think she called it wing and song. There was a subtitle to it.

[00:57:33] But in many spiritual and shamanic traditions, they believe it's the winged ones. It was the birds who actually taught humans how to sing. That's where song birthed from, emerged from. So I wanted to take some time because in this past year, countless winged ones have shown up for me.

[00:57:52] We have the vulture wings. I have the crow feathers from-- remember the crow, as soon as we got landed at the airport. I have all these winged creatures here that we keep at our altar. I have parakeet wings that I've preserved. I have dove wings. The list goes on and on, and they all came to me in this past year, and it was large in part, I know, due to this whole throat chakra rebirthing, new activation, that I had.

[00:58:19] And at the top of the list for me is singing sacred songs, singing medicine songs, playing the guitar. And I love when you and I do that together. So sometimes things will reemerge on your list. They'll show up in the number one spot again. But I wanted to speak to that because that's still lighting me up.

[00:58:37] My new book and deck idea are lighting me up. Miniature golf really lights me up. Anyone who's an investor out there, I have a brilliant miniature golf idea. I'm not joking. It's fabulous. If this resonates for you, message us. Let's talk. I want to bring this mini golf vision to life in 2025 and beyond. And also, lastly, I am looking to start to activate and really bring into 2025, having it be the year of celebration.

[00:59:20] And one of the reasons why is how we started this episode by saying sometimes we forget, or I forget our wedding anniversary date. You and I have just historically not been the best celebrators of our milestones. We never had an engagement party after we got engaged. We never had a housewarming party after we worked so hard to completely renovate this home and move in.

[00:59:46] We still have barely had anyone over aside from podcast guests. We never had anyone witness our wedding vows. Oh, there's so many other things. Even on the other end of the spectrum when we had the miscarriage. I have had a couple of close friends come over to honor Jellybean's burial in our yard.

[01:00:12] Shout out to Kim and Peyton. Thank you so much for joining me in that space. But you get my point that we have just experienced, traversed so many different textures of things in our marriage. And the celebration of those have just dissolved behind us. So maybe sometime in 2025 we just have one party. We'll label it the housewarming, engagement, wedding. We'll just list all the things that we're celebrating and finally do a celebration. How's that sound?

[01:00:49] Luke: I like it.

[01:00:49] Alyson: I haven't brought it up to him at all until now.

[01:00:52] Luke: I like it. Yeah. I think I'm a forward-thinking person, so I'm thinking of what the next milestone is versus going, "Oh, there's a milestone right now to be acknowledged." So I think that's a great idea. And I like the idea of stacking them and compiling them. Otherwise, they're easier to forget. But that's also, I think, one thing we wanted to talk about, was a practice that we're starting to hone in a little bit, and that is the family meeting.

[01:01:27] Alyson: Yeah. So glad we do those. And give me a lot of shout outs, but shout out to Kasenia, my dear friend. I sent her a voice note a couple of weeks ago, and I was like, "I'll message you more later. Luke and I are about to have our family meeting in the yard." She messaged back, and she's like, "Tell me more. What are these family meetings?" And I was like, "Oh, if she's curious, maybe somebody else would be too." It pretty much is what the two words say. It's a family meeting in our yard. But yeah, I really love that we do those.

[01:01:55] Luke: Yeah. I think it's easy for people to become siloed, even when you're co-habitating. I'm just on my thing, man. I'm just ambitious, productive, and just charging ahead. And I might not communicate with you about things that I don't feel are important for you to know but you might have a different opinion about. "Oh, really? We're doing that now? Why didn't you say anything?" That kind of thing.

[01:02:25] So to me, part of it is in the realm of just practicality. If we're a team as a family, we have this partnership in life and so many different areas of life that it's like having a board meeting. It's like you have business partners and you get together once a month. Okay, what are our objectives? Where do we need help? What are our plans? It's part that.

[01:02:50] And then part of it is the relational upkeep of communication. And that if there are any little points of interference in the emotional cohesion of the relationship, small grievances, things you might've let slide in the moment because you just didn't have time to have a conversation about it, if there are adjustments or fine tunings that need to happen, that those are addressed on a regular basis while they're still small, manageable, and easy to pivot versus leaving things undiscussed until they develop into patterns that could undermine the relationship anyway, and turn into a heavier grievance or, in worst cases, resentment, where you're sitting there stewing about something because you didn't have the opportunity to bring it up. Life for all of us moves really fast. So I think it's been really--

[01:03:58] Alyson: But not for you anymore.

[01:04:00] Luke: No, I've slowed down a lot. I slowed my role.

[01:04:04] Alyson: You down shifted.

[01:04:05] Luke: Oh, big time.

[01:04:06] Alyson: You're slowing down over here.

[01:04:07] Luke: Yeah. I slowed my role in so many ways. And part of that is because of those family meetings, like, hey, let's-- and it's not like the family meetings are necessarily on a schedule or just serious, but I think we both just of--

[01:04:20] Alyson: We can sense when there's a list that's growing.

[01:04:23] Luke: Yeah. We're just both doing our thing, and we're both in the house, but there's just a lot going on. And so things stack up. There's all kinds of new developments in life that you haven't necessarily really sat down and shared about. So yeah, I think it's a really great practice and a way to keep lines of communication open and to make sure that you're both headed in the same direction and that everything is very clear.

[01:04:52] And if there are any adjustments from something that's in the practical realm to something that is more in the subtle emotional realms, those things are course corrected as you go, rather than them developing into something that requires a lot more work to untangle later.

[01:05:09] Alyson: Yeah. And another reason for the family meetings is, I guess this would apply for every person because we all have different levels of sensitivity and awarenesses, but sometimes I want to have a family meeting with you to let you know the state of my being lately.

[01:05:31] I was reflecting on one that, I don't know, it was maybe a few months ago at this point, but I really needed to tell you the feeling that I'm just living 24/7 on plant medicine, but I'm not on plant medicine. I was like, "I really need to have a focused conversation with you about that so that you can really look into my eyes, hear me, and get when I tell you this, that I'm needing to adjust."

[01:06:10] I've always been wildly attuned and sensitive, but I knew that explaining it in that way, you would hopefully get it, the experiences that you've had on a sacred grandmother medicine journey where other worldly benevolent beings are creating new neural pathways in your brain or these other beings visit you.

[01:06:38] This is my everyday waking, walking life. And recently it had gone to an even next level and just more realms and more textures of the realms that was getting even more pronounced. And I could feel like there was going to be an integration time for me to calibrate my system to adjust, and to trust this change is coming in for a reason. I'm not going to freak out about it. I'm not going to fight it. It's here, and you of all people need to know that this is here. And so it's those kinds of reasons too of the feeling aspect, the feeling part of our being.

[01:07:27] Luke: Yeah. And the real time check ins. I have worked to build a habit of also letting you know where I am on any given day. If I feel totally in the pocket, I just continue on with my day, but I'm not very habituated to telling someone if I'm a bit off. I just grin and bear it.

[01:07:57] Alyson: I can see it, but I know.

[01:08:00] Luke: But it's been helpful for me to just say, "Hey, you don't need to change anything about the way you're going to go about your day to day, but just to let you know, I'm just off for whatever reason. If I know the reason, I'll share the reason. If I don't, I just say, "Heads up, I'm just in a strange space today."

[01:08:16] And I think those structures of ongoing communication also tie someone into your field so that they don't then have to wonder where you are and what's going on with you. And they can also adapt to your need for less or more space or support, and so on.

[01:08:43] Alyson: Yeah. Like when we were driving last week to the muscle testing gathering. It was a morning gathering, and you were like, "I just got to let you know really, really struggling over here." And as much as I am a morning person, it felt very active and alive in that car ride driving us over there. Wanted to chat. I had no problem just moving into silence and letting you try to see if you could even get out of the car when we got there. Yeah, stuff like that.

[01:09:16] Luke: You get me in a car before 9:00 AM to go somewhere and be around people, it's going to be a struggle.

[01:09:23] Alyson: Yeah, yeah.

[01:09:23] Luke: Again, that's the beauty of knowing oneself and just coming into acceptance of that. You're like that late at night. I would never try to have a serious conversation with you at 10 o'clock. You're out. 9:00, you're pretty much fading into that zone.

[01:09:46] Alyson: I'm in drooling mode.

[01:09:47] Luke: I'm at max energy at 9:00 PM.

[01:09:50] Alyson: In falconhead energy.

[01:09:51] Luke: Yeah, I am in new era energy. But you catch me before 11:00 AM, I'm not going to have a lot to say. I'm still learning how to be in the world after coming out of dream time and so on. But imagine how many relationships we've had, and I'm sure many other people have, whether it's a friendship, business partnership, romantic relationship or what, where you just don't take the time to really learn and understand the other person and therefore conflict arises, just out of a lack of awareness and understanding.

[01:10:24] So much of that can be avoided just by learning how people tick and honoring them for their idiosyncrasies, tendencies, propensities, and just going, "Wow, I just love you as the perfect strange creature you are, and I'm learning how to love myself for the unique person I am." And then you can start to dance, because you know the dance floor, and you know the steps they're going to take, and they know your steps and so on. Becomes more of a waltz than a boxing match.

[01:10:53] Alyson: Pee Wee's hungry.

[01:10:55] Luke: It's almost time for Pee Wee's dinner.

[01:10:57] Alyson: Pee Wee's doing the stare down that she does. She just locks in like this.

[01:11:01] Luke: Pretty soon she's going to start tapping Jarrod on the leg.

[01:11:05] Alyson: She's like, "It's time for my burgers, please, mama." Look, she's wagging her tail because she thinks someone's coming to save her with the burgers.

[01:11:13] Luke: We're close. Hang on, Pee Wee.

[01:11:16] Alyson: Yeah. See, she's about to get vocal. She's doing the stare down. Are we feeling complete? We have a long list of potential other tangents we could go down, but I don't know how many other doors we want to open.

[01:11:32] Luke: Give me one more door. What's the big [Inaudible]

[01:11:38] Alyson: This one's not going to excite you, but I do want to let people know briefly that one possibility that exists in life is eliminating your chakras.

[01:11:48] Luke: Oh, interesting.

[01:11:49] Alyson: I just felt compelled to want to let people know that that is an option. And this option was one that I was deeply drawn, magnetized to, resonated with, and fulfilled, my very own chakra elimination. I meant to bring the book up. It's by, Sunni Karl. I think her last name is K-A-R-L. And the book title is Making Love to Source. Fabulous book.

[01:12:25] And I rarely give book recommendations, but I'm obsessed with this book for a number of reasons. I wish that Sunni was still alive so that we could have her over or you could interview her with something, or we could both interview her together. Wealth of wisdom in this tiny, small, pretty old book.

[01:12:45] And I didn't anticipate in a book of that title to come upon just a small area within one chapter where she explains about chakra elimination. But as soon as I read it, I just had this instant sense of knowing that this was for me. And it's a very pretty simple practice that she explains in the book.

[01:13:06] We hear you, Pee Wee. We see you, sweetheart. She's giving me the stare down. But I just wanted to let people know. I bet it's pinging, pinging for some folks when they hear me talk about it. I instantly felt a very positive market shift, especially when I woke up the next morning. It's a practice that you activate right before you go to bed.

[01:13:31] And while you sleep, these pure love orbs come in and do the chakra elimination for you. And I felt a positive shift right upon waking and have continued to feel this positive shift. I feel more wholly healthily, at one with myself more than ever before. There's just a whole different expanse and unification in all parts of me. A wholeness that I've never experienced before from doing this. So #justsaying, you can do your own chakra elimination.

[01:14:16] Luke: It's interesting. I remember when you came to me and shared your excitement about this discovery, and I thought, that sounds nuts, but if it makes her happy, go for it. Every spiritual tradition that I've ever benefited from either has nothing to say about that part of the human experience or has to do with learning how to balance them, integrate them, master them, work with them, move them.

[01:14:43] Alyson: To each their own. I think potentially the first practice on my shamanic path was doing chakra clearings for people. I very well understand the chakras. I have worked with my own and others thousands of times and yet I knew that this was the way for me. So she explains it all in the book. I forget what chapter. The whole book is worth reading.

[01:15:12] Luke: We'll put the book in the show notes. Jarrod, do we have a show notes name for this one? Maybe the episode number if you have that. What is it? Stand by, folks we get those show notes. 573. Holy shit. We've done 573 episodes of this podcast.

[01:15:29] Alyson: She's getting closer.

[01:15:30] Luke: lukestorey.com/573. Anything that is a linkable in terms of references from this conversation, including the book that she mentioned, we'll put in those show notes.

[01:15:42] Alyson: I think that we could save the other higher power couple relationship part for the next time because I that's too much to unpack. And there's so many other things. One thing that you had noted you might want to talk about is the mental and emotional sovereignty, inner not being dependent on external factors.

[01:16:06] Luke: Oh, I could speak to that quickly. Yeah. She's only going to take-- quickly, here.

[01:16:11] Alyson: She's now on the perch giving us this-- she's moving closer and closer.

[01:16:15] Luke: In our face now.

[01:16:16] Alyson: We hear you, sweet Pee.

[01:16:17] Luke: Yeah, this has to do with the new era piece. We live in unprecedented times, to say the least. The power structures and institutions of the world that have been of creating the construct that we call life and society are rapidly changing. There are many people speaking from the United States as a pinnacle of Western society, at least in recent history. There's big changes of foot.

[01:16:52] You got a portion of the population that are terrified and shaving their heads. You got another portion that are celebrating what they perceive to be a renewal of freedom, etc. I don't know who's right or who's wrong and who's going to do a good job at running things or removing the people that are running things poorly, etc.

[01:17:15] But I do know from experience that I've had much more success working on my perception of the world, my interpretation of reality, being open-minded and hopefully humble enough to know that the way I'm seeing things isn't the way they are.

[01:17:39] The way things are is the way I'm seeing them. And so I've noticed there's definitely a different energy here in November. It's just a palpable change in the field that feels positive to me, which is not positive for many people. But the reason for that change is because people's perception has changed.

[01:18:08] Nothing has actually changed in real time in a concrete sense, geopolitically, legislatively, etc. We're still living here in the same country we were living a couple of weeks ago. But there's a different feeling, a different energy. Why? That's because perception has changed. Everything is perception.

[01:18:26] So part of the new era for me is each of us claiming the most powerful thing we have and that is our agency over how we perceive things and how we choose to judge things positively or negatively and how that actually colors our reality. So I'm always working myself to stay in a position of curious neutrality of just, hey, this could be bad. We'll see. Time will tell. This could be the greatest thing ever. Time will tell.

[01:19:04] But ultimately, each of our own level of happiness, satisfaction, serenity, peace, is completely within our own grasp. Based on the degree to which we believe our thoughts and that we attach to our judgments and opinions. And so I'm celebrating not the changes in the world, but I'm celebrating the fact that so many people have had a change in perception, which I think is positive.

[01:19:37] And whether they're right or wrong about their perceptions, we shall see, but the field has definitely lightened as a result of people going, "Hmm. Wow, I think things are going to get better." And just to believe that things are going to get better. Whether or not they've been duped by another false prophet or whatever, we will see.

[01:19:56] But it just goes to show how much belief really dictates our energy. It dictates the emotional landscape that we live in. And so it's just a affirmation to me to spend my time each morning to really check in on my relationship with my highest self, with my soul, with God, and to do my very best to stay in alignment with that, because that's the thing that's going to govern my perception. Yeah.

[01:20:28] Alyson: I think that that's very well said.

[01:20:31] Luke: I can tell Cookie loves it too. She's like, "That's great, Papa. Where's the goddamn burgers?"

[01:20:36] Alyson: She's huffing and puffing into the mic. So for anyone listening, if you're wondering what that sound is, it's because Cookie is now as close as possible to alert us that it is in fact her dinnertime.

[01:20:47] Luke: It's that time. Well, let's wrap it up, feed the dog, keep it moving. Thanks everyone for tuning in. We really appreciate you joining us in these conversations. And thank you, my sweetheart wife for--

[01:21:01] Alyson: Yeah. We've got two sweetie girls.

[01:21:03] Luke: For having these chats with me. I always really enjoy these opportunities for us to share with one another and share with other people and hoping that people derive some benefit from what we have to say.

[01:21:16] Alyson: And I marked this new era episode by wearing a hat on a podcast for the first time ever in my life. This is such an important day. We could create a holiday around it, I suppose. It's a very big deal.

[01:21:30] Luke: You're probably the only woman in Austin that has never worn a white brim hat on a podcast.

[01:21:38] Alyson: Oh yeah, that's true. Yeah. One was I wasn't having a great hair day. Two, now that you are inviting me to do these pretty often with you, I'm like, let's have fun and play around with the different looks. I wore my glasses last time. Had never worn my glasses on a podcast. So yeah, I was just like, I have a few cute hats.

[01:22:04] This one has some porcupine quills and a feather in it. So I thought, let's commemorate this new era talk with wearing a hat for the first time. And we don't have to wear those silly headsets anymore on your show. So it allowed me the freedom to do this.

[01:22:19] Luke: Beautiful.

[01:22:20] Alyson: So yeah, thanks for having me. Thanks for joining us, everyone. And I am excited to hear about your new eras. And yeah, excited to see where your new architectures guide you in life.

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