[00:00:45] Luke Storey: All right, brother, here's where I wanna start. If you had to explain the first 10 seconds of a 5-MeO-DMT experience to someone who's never had [00:01:00] any kind of experience like that, how would you describe it?

[00:01:04] Dmitri Leonov: Right, right into it.

[00:01:05] Luke Storey: I mean-

[00:01:06] Dmitri Leonov: Love it ...

[00:01:06] Luke Storey: that's my favorite topic of all time. Yeah.

[00:01:09] Dmitri Leonov: Um, okay, so the first 10 seconds, uh, I think it d- they're probably different for different people on different times you do it, but, uh, most people say, myself included, that it's, uh, challenging at first.

[00:01:23] Dmitri Leonov: Um, you really have to let go, and, uh, it's not so easy, uh, at first. Then when you let go, it is the... The next 10 seconds is probably the most profound, um, deep and, um, u-un-unexplainable experience, um, har- or hard to explain experience of my life at least.

[00:01:51] Luke Storey: Uh- That's why I like asking people to describe it because it's indescribable.

[00:01:55] Luke Storey: You know? It's like one of those things you can only sort of reach for it, you know? I [00:02:00]

[00:02:00] Dmitri Leonov: mean, the best way to describe it is, uh, so there's this, this feeling of oneness that you feel, you know, on, on different meditative, uh, techniques, right? But, uh, with this one that's very different, it's this... You feel like the oneness is within you.

[00:02:16] Dmitri Leonov: So it's not that you're one with everything, it's that everything is inside of you, and that is a very different experience

[00:02:25] Luke Storey: Did you get the sense that It was something similar to what might happen when we leave our body?

[00:02:38] Dmitri Leonov: I would say it's-- So I, and, and this, I'm just basing it on what I've read, um, since I don't remember what happened last time I left my body.

[00:02:47] Dmitri Leonov: There are probably different levels of, uh, merging with that oneness, right? There is, uh... And I don't, I don't really know how to describe it, but there's probably like the earth level, there's higher dimensional [00:03:00] levels of oneness. This one to me seemed like just the ultimate, uh, oneness. So it's probably what happens not when you just leave the body, but when you, um, r-reunite with source, which probably takes like many lifetimes and many levels.

[00:03:16] Dmitri Leonov: So it is probably, probably the most, um, the experience that's closest to understanding what God feels like.

[00:03:26] Luke Storey: How did that experience change the way you interact with the world in your life?

[00:03:34] Dmitri Leonov: It, uh, it gave me a, a very clear understanding of, um, the structure of existence, or at least that's what, that's what it felt like.

[00:03:45] Dmitri Leonov: Uh, and actually what's, it's what partially led to my, my life's work, which is, um, helping people vibrate in resonance with that energy, right? With that higher self, source, unconditional love, whatever you wanna call it. [00:04:00] And, um, the best way to describe it is there is the, the kind of the, the giant ball of love, energy, whatever you wanna call it, kind of looks like the sun, but it's basically a sphere that's radiating in all directions.

[00:04:15] Dmitri Leonov: And the closer to the center, the higher the frequency of, of, of this energy that's being radiated. And then the further away you move, it slows down until it's slow enough that it feels three D, right? So it's almost like this cone shape, uh, energy. So like super fast frequency and then slowing down more and more.

[00:04:36] Dmitri Leonov: And, uh, the amount of energy that is shown, that is, um, shined, sh-shown, uh, that's shining on us, uh, all the time is just indescribable. And so the, um, the, all the sayings that, you know, God is always trying to help you, God is... A, God is love, love is all there is, also not a metaphor. That's, I believe that's literally the [00:05:00] very clear description of what everything is.

[00:05:03] Dmitri Leonov: But the, the amount of, of that, um, love that's directed at us, each of us all the time, is also indescribable. It is just tremendous amount of energy. Um, so, so one of the, I think one of the Christians', uh, sayings that God is always trying to help you, God loves you, it is also not a, not a metaphor. It's very direct.

[00:05:29] Dmitri Leonov: And so when I-- One, one of the things I was thinking about afterwards, uh, in kind of integration is trying to figure out, uh, so h- why, why is it that we don't feel that love all the time? Why do we have problems, right? Why do we get sick, et cetera, if we have so much support all the time? And the answer I came up with, the only logical answer, was that we are not vibrating in resonance with that energy.

[00:05:55] Dmitri Leonov: And once, once we begin to vibrate in resonance with that energy and, and [00:06:00] alignment with that energy, there all the problems kind of go away because there's just so much, uh, help. And so because of this, uh, kind of almost a cone-like shape of that, of the freq- of vibration on this le- on the 3D level, there is-- We can do a lot of work and run around and do as many things.

[00:06:22] Dmitri Leonov: But if we-- Just a very tiny shift up at the higher level leads to a, just a lot of leverage, right? So it's almost like a You get it, right? So, so there's a lot of, um... It becomes a lot easier.

[00:06:37] Luke Storey: Yeah.

[00:06:37] Dmitri Leonov: And so wh- when I-

[00:06:38] Luke Storey: It's like a pendulum, right? It's like the hand swinging above the pendulum- Exactly ... has to move very little- Exactly

[00:06:44] Luke Storey: and all of a sudden you have a massive arc.

[00:06:45] Dmitri Leonov: Exactly.

[00:06:46] Luke Storey: Yeah.

[00:06:47] Dmitri Leonov: Well, and, and so then processing- Or

[00:06:50] Luke Storey: swinging on one device.

[00:06:51] Dmitri Leonov: Well, that, that's kind of partially what led to it. But, uh, so then the question is how do we begin to resonate or vibrate in [00:07:00] resonance with that energy? Well, so there's different ways to think of it.

[00:07:03] Dmitri Leonov: There's mental, so we can think like unconditional love. So how would it think about all the problems that we have? Uh, feeling it obviously is important, so emotional and, um, feeling. But then the next one was, well, actually physical vibration. Ev- everything literally is vibrating, right? Everything is frequency.

[00:07:23] Dmitri Leonov: And so affecting it at that level is just, is, is the most direct kind of primal, basic way of coming into resonance. And so we know that everything resonates, and so to change the reson-- change the frequency of something else, the easiest way to do it is through, by resonating with something else, like the pendulums, right?

[00:07:44] Dmitri Leonov: So everything resonates with everything else. That's why we, you know, our circadian rhythm is tied to, um, the sun's rot-- or I guess the Earth's rotation. That's why women's cycles are tied to the moon and to each other, and that's why [00:08:00] the, the one device is, is like almost like a tuning fork that helps you come to resonance with that core frequency.

[00:08:07] Luke Storey: What did ancient cultures understand about frequency that, uh, our modern medical model misses?

[00:08:15] Dmitri Leonov: Um, a lot. Um, they... I mean, to them, uh, frequency was, I think was the kind of... I mean, that's, that's how music started, right? The, the drumming, um, a lot of it is, is in resonance with the brainwaves, right? Uh, or theta at least.

[00:08:35] Dmitri Leonov: And so a lot of, um, a lot of our kind of m- modern mainstream, uh, medicine is based on Newtonian physics, right? Which is molecular, which assumes that everything is a, is a machine, right? Our body is a machine that needs to be, like, fixed. But, uh, we've also known for over 100 years that physics is actually quantum.

[00:08:58] Dmitri Leonov: We've known that [00:09:00] everything vibrates and is in fact vibration, that particles are really waves. And, uh, and so now we have kind of the scientific way of understanding frequency health and frequency technology and frequency medicine. Um, I think the ancients kind of intuitively understood it and then experimentally saw that it's working.

[00:09:21] Dmitri Leonov: And, um, so yeah, they, they were obviously practicing it a lot more, and it's been lost for- You know, a couple of centuries at least. Uh, now luckily it's coming back into a revival.

[00:09:35] Luke Storey: It's interesting to me that people in general have such a hard time, uh, giving credence to the unseen energies, you know, of, of frequency.

[00:09:48] Luke Storey: Um, but no one has a problem using their cell phone Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. It's like we rely on that. You click a button and all of a sudden you're talking to someone, uh, you know, on the [00:10:00] other side of the world, and it's just like, oh, it's just a given, right? We sort of take it for granted. But if, if you had, you know, if you were to time travel back even 100 years ago, right?

[00:10:11] Luke Storey: And the idea of being able to watch your friend on a video, uh, in a, you know, at, at a distance would seem like... I mean, you probably would've been burned at the stake- ... as a heretic, right? It's like- Yeah ... it seems like it just, it's takes so long for us to catch up with some of these things, um, that are, you know, true and proven.

[00:10:35] Luke Storey: I mean, even in the case of frequency, I mean, there's thousands, I mean, what, uh, 10,000, 15,000 studies- Mm-hmm ... around frequency medicine that are in the mainstream, uh, sort of, um, what do you call it? Canon.

[00:10:49] Dmitri Leonov: Mm-hmm.

[00:10:49] Luke Storey: Yet people are still like, "Ah, that won't, that won't work."

[00:10:52] Dmitri Leonov: Must be placebo, right?

[00:10:53] Luke Storey: Yeah.

[00:10:53] Dmitri Leonov: Yeah.

[00:10:54] Luke Storey: I think, I mean, maybe some of the problem is too that when you're talking about things that are outside [00:11:00] of the physical realm, it's also much easier for fraudsters to fake it just to try and make a buck.

[00:11:08] Dmitri Leonov: That's true.

[00:11:08] Luke Storey: So that- Yeah ... that helps feed the skepticism, you know, which you can't really help 'cause it's just part of human nature. Some people lack integrity- Yeah ... and so, you know, they're gonna try to survive through, um, deceptive means. Yeah. But that still doesn't negate the validity of the, uh, modality as a whole.

[00:11:27] Dmitri Leonov: 100%. Um, the-

[00:11:33] Dmitri Leonov: I mean, there's-- plus there's always the placebo effect, which is, uh, I think the, the easiest kind of pushback that most people give to anything that's, uh, intuitively difficult to understand how the modality works, so they say it's placebo. The placebo is the, the most consistent result of every study ever done, right?

[00:11:53] Dmitri Leonov: So it's especially anything psychological. Um, and I also recently learned there is, um... So [00:12:00] even if people know it's placebo, it's still working, right? It, it's, uh, really interesting

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[00:13:53] Dmitri Leonov: Well, so there's-- it works on different levels, right?

[00:13:55] Dmitri Leonov: So... And even going back to that cone-like shape, um, [00:14:00] there's ways at the higher level, at the lower level, and I think it's important to, to work on all of the levels, right? And so it's important to work on the physical, you know, body level. It's important to watch what you eat, right? So mole- the-- nobody canceled molecular physics, right.

[00:14:16] Dmitri Leonov: It's still very effective, but we do need to, um, take into account that, that everything is vibrating. Um, so the, one of the modalities is... One of the, the most studied of the thousands of studies, I think it's thirteen thousand studies right now on PubMed on frequency, uh, medicine, uh, light therapy is the most studied.

[00:14:38] Dmitri Leonov: And so the, the, the method, um, of light therapy is the most researched. Uh, so we know that it affects, uh, the mitochondria. We know that i-it helps, uh, detoxify nitric oxide, which looks a lot like oxygen, um, to the mitochondria, which then frees up space for more oxygen, which then allows it to produce more ATP and more energy.

[00:14:59] Dmitri Leonov: Uh, that's, [00:15:00] that's one of the more, um, common ones. Um, the one that is, uh, less... Oh, of course we know how, um, entrainment, the brainwave entrainment works, right? Like that is same as the pendulums. We can tune our brain to whatever hertz we are- we wanna get to. Um, the one that, uh, is most in-interesting to me is, is a little bit harder to study, but it is this kind of the, the overall, uh, combination of frequencies that is our body, right?

[00:15:31] Dmitri Leonov: So we know every organ vibrates at a different resonant frequency and, and really the key isn't, uh, isn't so much, um, the specific frequency that each organ is on, it's the relationship between them, right? So the... And it, it's basically all math, right? Um, what's, what's really fascinating to me is, so with, with one device, uh, the version you buy, um, kind of on, on the website without p- [00:16:00] any personalization, it, uh, plays the same frequencies for everyone, which are solfeggio frequencies, and these have been studied and have been, um, shown to affect our state, right?

[00:16:11] Dmitri Leonov: And there's something also mathematically beautiful about, about those frequencies themselves. But, uh, what's really interesting about this is somehow playing the same frequencies for everyone, and we, w-we're all different, right? We're all snowflakes. Somehow this has a tremendous effect on the nervous system, on your sleep, on energy levels, and so on.

[00:16:33] Dmitri Leonov: And I was trying to figure out, so how does that-- how can that possibly work if everyone is different? Um, the, the, the theory is that since you're a guitarist, you can tune the E string to any note. Right? And as long as the other strings are tuned to the E string, it's gonna sound great, right? So you wouldn't really know that it's not the real E.

[00:16:55] Dmitri Leonov: And so the same way we can tune our body so, so the relationship between the organs becomes [00:17:00] aligned. Now, you can go to the next level, and this, this is something we're launching very soon, which is, um, it's called biotuning. And so this is a partnership with, uh, one of our advisors and partners, Dr. Jeffrey Thompson.

[00:17:14] Dmitri Leonov: Uh, he's a pioneer in vibroacoustics field. He's been doing it since the '80s, and he's developed this technology to basically find your own personal resonant frequency And the way it works is you are sitting in a vibrating chair with headphones with a blindfold, and we're playing a sound sweep. So it's like a ooh, but slower.

[00:17:37] Dmitri Leonov: And you have, uh, sensors that checking your HRV. So basically, we're seeing how your HRV responds to sound, and it's done a few times, so it's... we know it's accurate. And turns out that everybody has that one frequency where their sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous systems comes into balance.

[00:17:54] Luke Storey: Really?

[00:17:55] Dmitri Leonov: Yeah. Wow. And what's really crazy is that frequency never changes. It, it [00:18:00] changes by a couple of decimal points of hertz if you go through traumatic event. Really? Yeah. It's, it's really fascinating. It's-- Whenever we keep redoing it, it never changes. Again, so it can change by hundredths or a couple hundredths of a hertz, which is imperceptible to human ear.

[00:18:17] Dmitri Leonov: And so when you then play that frequency to you, it's, it's a deeper level of, um, healing, right? So, so it's like playing, uh, um... Everything has a resonant frequency, so you can break a glass, right, with, with the right frequency. Um, same thing with this, but you're not breaking yourself. You're actually making yourself work better.

[00:18:37] Dmitri Leonov: And then we're playing different octaves of the frequency to, um, to affect different systems. So for example, if you go down to the sub ten hertz range, now we're in the theta and lower delta wave, um, range.

[00:18:52] Luke Storey: That's wild.

[00:18:53] Dmitri Leonov: Yeah.

[00:18:53] Luke Storey: So every person has their own signature frequency.

[00:18:57] Dmitri Leonov: Mm-hmm.

[00:18:58] Luke Storey: I wonder if-- [00:19:00] I wonder how much of that is, if any, is determined by one's level of consciousness, right?

[00:19:07] Luke Storey: Mm-hmm. If, if you took a, you know, a monk who's been meditating for hours a day for fifty years, is there any predictability to their frequency versus someone who is a, you know, a violent repeat offender you know? Got a lower consciousness, more instinctive animal-based person.

[00:19:26] Dmitri Leonov: Hmm. Really interesting question.

[00:19:30] Dmitri Leonov: I-- From what we've seen, there isn't like-- W- We, we can't find any, any correlations. It seems that it... there is different. And also, keep in mind that, um, there are octaves of, octaves of everything, right? So if mine is fifty hertz and yours is a hundred, it's basically the same thing, right? Just, um, different octave.

[00:19:51] Dmitri Leonov: But, um- This will, this will be worth researching more, for sure

[00:19:56] Luke Storey: Yeah, I mean, there's been studies on, on neurofeedback, right? [00:20:00] I've done a lot of neurofeedback over the years. I, I love it. It's really helped me a lot. Um, but there've been studies with neurofeedback where they do QEEGs on, you know, a longtime meditator-

[00:20:09] Dmitri Leonov: Mm-hmm, mm-hmm

[00:20:10] Luke Storey: and that sets the baseline for how they wanna train- Mm ... your brain to be as a, as a novice or a non-meditator, right? It's like, can you achieve those same levels of, um, equanimity-

[00:20:21] Dmitri Leonov: Mm-hmm ...

[00:20:21] Luke Storey: without having to put in all those years of work, you know? Exactly.

[00:20:24] Dmitri Leonov: Well, sign me up.

[00:20:26] Luke Storey: Yeah. I mean, I'm, you know, I'm down to do the years of work, too-

[00:20:29] Luke Storey: but if we can, if we could take a shortcut, um, no one's against a shortcut.

[00:20:32] Dmitri Leonov: Yeah.

[00:20:33] Luke Storey: Uh, so the, one of the things that's really interesting to me when it comes to frequency, so you were talking about the, um, sort of the harmonics, the symphony between our different organs- Yep ... right? So the liver has something, the gallbladder has a different one, our heart, brain, et cetera, and they're all, ideally, if you're healthy and in your own, uh, uh, coherence within your body, things are gonna be kind of in sync and communicating.

[00:20:57] Luke Storey: Uh, the other interesting thing to me is [00:21:00] how different elements outside of the body have their own frequency. Uh, so I, I think I've heard you speak about this experiment where, uh, someone was able to identify the frequency of oxygen-

[00:21:14] Dmitri Leonov: Mm-hmm ...

[00:21:15] Luke Storey: and then play that frequency to someone, and then you measure their blood oxygen, and it goes higher by the, with the oxygen frequency.

[00:21:23] Luke Storey: Did I get that right? What- Exactly right ... tell me about that, that, 'cause that's nuts. So

[00:21:27] Dmitri Leonov: this is the same, uh, same advisor, or Dr. Thompson.

[00:21:30] Luke Storey: Okay.

[00:21:31] Dmitri Leonov: Um, so he's- I

[00:21:32] Luke Storey: gotta meet this Thompson guy.

[00:21:33] Dmitri Leonov: Yeah, it's

[00:21:34] Luke Storey: fascinating. Sounds cool.

[00:21:35] Dmitri Leonov: Yeah.

[00:21:35] Luke Storey: Sounds like my kind of guy.

[00:21:36] Dmitri Leonov: Totally. I have a few, few of those, uh, pioneer guys to, to connect with.

[00:21:42] Luke Storey: Great.

[00:21:42] Dmitri Leonov: Um, it's exactly it. So we found the frequency of oxygen, and then when you play that frequ- and it's, I forget what it is, but it's like... 80 hertz or point something, something hertz, whatever. Uh, when you play the frequency back, uh, and we have, um, oxygen, blood oxygen meters strapped to people, [00:22:00] uh, so blood oxygen concentration increases without heart rate going up or anything else going up.

[00:22:05] Dmitri Leonov: So again, by listening to the sound of oxygen, your oxygen level in the body, physical, molecular oxygen level in your body goes up. There's absolutely no explanation to this in our mainstream science.

[00:22:19] Luke Storey: That's bananas. Yeah. And does the test subject... I'm assuming that it's blind. I'm assuming they would be down where they didn't know what the frequency was?

[00:22:28] Luke Storey: Uh- Because if you told me, "Hey, we're gonna play you the oxygen frequency," I could placebo myself into having higher blood oxygen if I know that.

[00:22:37] Dmitri Leonov: That's a very good question. Let- I would have to double-check if they were double-blind.

[00:22:39] Luke Storey: That's

[00:22:40] Dmitri Leonov: good.

[00:22:40] Luke Storey: I'm assuming they would, it would be blind. I mean, otherwise, you know- Yeah

[00:22:42] Luke Storey: it takes, it takes some of the fun out of the results. You know? Uh, there's a device that came out a few years ago. Have you ever heard of the Happi? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I, I had their, their founder, Scott, on the show a number of years ago, and they, and they came up with something really interesting in their device where...

[00:22:57] Luke Storey: And they would use a very, uh, subtle [00:23:00] magnetic field. Mm-hmm. And it could be caffeine or nicotine or whatever, right, that frequency. And I remember when we last met, this is probably five years ago or so, on the down low, when we were done recording, I was like, "Dude, could you guys put, like, a psilocybin or DMT frequency?"

[00:23:17] Luke Storey: He's like, "Yeah, we're working on it, but we, you know, we can't release it publicly. We'll give you the, the secret files when we get them," and, you know- Nice ... I never got it. But I, I imagine, uh, at some point in the future 'Cause I, I, you know, I'm a huge fan of psychedelics, um, when, when used safely and intentionally, but that there is a deficit.

[00:23:36] Luke Storey: You know, there's a, there's a price you pay, um, I think biologically- Mm-hmm ... and in terms of the nervous system from going to those places because you have to get the molecules in your body to, to have that effect, right? It's kind of like, um, you know, poison being based on the dose.

[00:23:50] Dmitri Leonov: Mm-hmm.

[00:23:50] Luke Storey: So I have this vision of, wow, there's going to be some kind of frequency medicine at some point where you can elicit that type of spiritual experience and [00:24:00] that type of healing without having to pay the price, uh, you know, physically.

[00:24:05] Luke Storey: Absolutely. Have, have you heard anything around developments on that? Where... How far off do you think that is?

[00:24:10] Dmitri Leonov: Uh, it's sort of here. So, um-

[00:24:11] Luke Storey: Really?

[00:24:12] Dmitri Leonov: So we're actually, we're friends with- Do

[00:24:13] Luke Storey: you have one in your backpack right

[00:24:15] Dmitri Leonov: now?

[00:24:15] Luke Storey: Well, it's- The next One device is gonna be the DMT one. Well, also the thing with that, too, is, you know, when you're deep in that kind of experience, uh, you have no choice but to surrender.

[00:24:28] Luke Storey: There's no off button, right? Mm-hmm. I mean, speaking of something like 5-MeO-DMT, I mean, good luck trying to stop it. The more you resist, the more scary it becomes, right? Which is a practice in and of itself. I mean, it's-

[00:24:40] Dmitri Leonov: Mm-hmm ...

[00:24:40] Luke Storey: it's, I think, been positive for me to put myself in challenging situations and learn how to trust and surrender, but there have also been situations where I'm like, "Okay, I'm done."

[00:24:49] Luke Storey: You know? "I'm good." And you can't stop it, you know? Yeah. You gotta... "Oh, how many more hours do I have?" You know?

[00:24:56] Dmitri Leonov: Well, that's... Yeah, that's definitely one of the downsides. Um, well, so what [00:25:00] we've... We're actually good friends with the Happy guys. And, um- Oh, okay ... well, and so they also, I think in the last five years, developed the frequency of Viagra, so that's another-

[00:25:10] Luke Storey: Funny

[00:25:11] Dmitri Leonov: yeah, to keep an eye on.

[00:25:12] Luke Storey: Does it work?

[00:25:13] Dmitri Leonov: Um, I haven't, I haven't tried it.

[00:25:15] Luke Storey: Well, yeah, I mean, guys like us don't need it, right? You know? Of course you wouldn't try it.

[00:25:20] Dmitri Leonov: Exactly. Um, but, but so, so speaking of psychedelics, there is, um, um- Another, another one of the pioneers of the space, his name is Don Estes, and he's, uh, based in Los Angeles, and they built a, a center called Reality Center.

[00:25:36] Dmitri Leonov: I think it was still-- No, it opened up after COVID.

[00:25:39] Luke Storey: Yeah, I haven't heard of it.

[00:25:40] Dmitri Leonov: It's on Third Street, Santa Monica. Um, so they've developed a frequency technology which synchronizes, uh, vibration on the table, um, headphones, and also light. So it's-- I guess it's similar to See a Light or Neurovisor. Yeah. But theirs is already colorful, so it's- [00:26:00] Oh, wow

[00:26:00] Dmitri Leonov: so you're not just-- Yeah, you're not imagining the light. It's, it's already there. And it's synchronized, um, obviously if it's all synchronized, then you, you can biofeedback it from, from your body. And, um, that one definitely has a psychedelic, um, effect. Not so much the, the high aspects of it, but the, the neuroplasticity and, and, uh, anti-PTSD, like all, you know, all of those levels.

[00:26:21] Dmitri Leonov: Yeah. Um, now I also-- And I forget the name of this, but they've-- Some, some of the researchers figured out how to shoot a particular, um- ultrasound of a particular frequency into a very specific part of your brain, which generates the nirvana state.

[00:26:39] Luke Storey: Really?

[00:26:40] Dmitri Leonov: Yeah. So you don't need to sit in the cave anymore for 10 years.

[00:26:42] Luke Storey: Really?

[00:26:43] Dmitri Leonov: Yeah.

[00:26:44] Luke Storey: I want the nirvana state.

[00:26:45] Dmitri Leonov: That, you can, they can remove, uh, d- um, addictions. Same thing, like just a 30-minute session of ultrasound in a particular-

[00:26:53] Luke Storey: Wow ...

[00:26:53] Dmitri Leonov: um, brain part.

[00:26:55] Luke Storey: That's so cool. Yeah. I mean, it, you know, it's funny, one of the things about us humans, [00:27:00] um, generally speaking, is at each stage of innovation, you know, we think we've really nailed it.

[00:27:08] Luke Storey: Right? Like right now, they're, "Oh, there's all this cool stuff, the Wonder device," I mean, they're just like, I got a house full of all these amazing technologies and things like that, and it, it kind of, sometimes think, "Wow, this is as good as it gets," you know? It's like, it's difficult to sort of project ourselves into the future.

[00:27:22] Luke Storey: Where is all this gonna be in 5 years, 10 years? Where's it gonna be in 20 years? If, if we're already this far along and the, the interest, you know, the public demand for these kind of technologies is, is growing-

[00:27:34] Dmitri Leonov: Mm-hmm ...

[00:27:35] Luke Storey: um, so it's, it's viable in terms of innovation because there's money to be made, which of course is an incentive for inventors and founders and things like that, like you, to bring things forward.

[00:27:46] Luke Storey: But imagine when all of this is really mainstream-

[00:27:51] Dmitri Leonov: Mm-hmm ...

[00:27:51] Luke Storey: and not just kind of in the niche people that are into the esoterica and into the biohacking. As you were saying earlier, tho- those are kind of [00:28:00] pretty tightly merged- Yeah ... in terms of a demographic, but, you know, think about when, like, Walmart has a little kiosk where you can go have the experience you just described, right?

[00:28:08] Dmitri Leonov: Mm-hmm.

[00:28:08] Luke Storey: Like, what a transformative effect, uh, that will have on the collective.

[00:28:13] Dmitri Leonov: I mean, I think it's not that far away, right? Definitely 10 years, probably five, or depending on how fast AI starts to d- to create things, it might be even sooner. Um, I mean, our vision for this is that- Um, I mean, we already know preventive medicine is, is growing, right?

[00:28:35] Dmitri Leonov: It's, it's, it's the new medicine. Um, now the ways, my, my personal bet is that, uh, the method of how medicine interacts with the body is moving from molecular to vibrational or frequency-based, um, more and more. And a- again, we, we still need the molecules. We still need everything to be functioning well at every level.

[00:28:57] Dmitri Leonov: Uh, but we've been neglecting [00:29:00] this vibrational level for far too long, and especially I know how passionate you are about EMF. Like, that is... That thing is just... We have no idea what's coming, right? A- and it's- We, we have... Yeah. It's, it's crazy.

[00:29:11] Luke Storey: Yeah.

[00:29:12] Dmitri Leonov: Uh, no, but, but the, uh- Especially

[00:29:13] Luke Storey: when you hear the, the president being really excited about 6G, I'm just like, "God, we've got enough Gs, you guys."

[00:29:20] Dmitri Leonov: That's, that said, there is a shift hap- Let this happen ... there's a big shift happening with the, with the administration around awareness of EMF, so that's coming very soon too.

[00:29:28] Luke Storey: Really?

[00:29:29] Dmitri Leonov: Yeah, yeah. I've... I heard, I heard it through the, some back channels.

[00:29:32] Luke Storey: I, I, I did an event, uh, with, uh, with, uh, Bobby Kennedy a couple years ago when he was, uh, running for president, and it was, uh, kind of a, a, a symposium here, you know, um, in Austin to support his campaign.

[00:29:46] Luke Storey: And everyone was talking about, you know, the things that we need to deal with. Oh, pesticides, the soil, this and that. And I'm sitting up on the stage, and I'm going, "You guys, what about chemtrails and, and, [00:30:00] uh, and EMF?" You know? 'Cause it's... I, I think the thing that bugs me about that is that, like, y- you know, depending on your your resources, you can choose, most people, you know, can choose to some degree to, like, drink clean water and eat food that isn't sprayed with poison, right?

[00:30:17] Luke Storey: Mm-hmm. I mean, maybe not people that are really, you know, in poverty. But i- if you kind of pay attention, you have some agency in terms of what you put in your body. But when it comes to the air we're breathing and the energetic environment in which we live, this, um, you know, EMF soup that we're all swimming in, there's no consent.

[00:30:35] Luke Storey: Mm-hmm. And that's the thing that really bothers me about that. Mm. So, so I, I, you know, talk to Bobby about that, and he's, he's well aware at least. So I know there's, you know, there's one soldier in the fight that, you know, at least gets it. I don't know how much power he has, but, uh, to me, this is, like, the biggest problem we have.

[00:30:54] Dmitri Leonov: I, I, I agree. Um, well, uh, the, the biggest problem f- I would put this in the, um, under the umbrella of [00:31:00] just frequency, vibrational well-being, right, or vibrational hygiene, um, something we're just completely ignoring. And EMF is something that only really started affecting us really recently in a, in the grand scheme of things, and we don't know what the effect is gonna be.

[00:31:15] Dmitri Leonov: Uh, well, and so one of the, one of the things, um, one of the reasons we started with a wearable device is, uh, this is the most, um, speaking of agency, is it is the one thing I can control is my own body, right? So what we can do is help everybody take care of their own vibrational state. Um, we have a, we haven't really talked about it publicly, we have a home-based device, uh, coming later this year, which is, has a wider range.

[00:31:42] Luke Storey: Oh, cool.

[00:31:43] Dmitri Leonov: Um, but really the technology is, uh, it has the, the range of, uh, at least a city block, right? So we will very soon be at a point where if we all agree, we can create this protection and create this kind of coherent resonance-

[00:31:59] Luke Storey: [00:32:00] Oh, that's dope ... in a lot of

[00:32:01] Dmitri Leonov: places. Yeah.

[00:32:01] Luke Storey: I'd have to get one for all my neighbors.

[00:32:04] Dmitri Leonov: You'd have to tell them.

[00:32:05] Luke Storey: Yeah. That's funny. Our neighbors around here are probably getting blasted with so much good energy, you know? I got the Quantum Upgrade, FLFE, all these- Yeah ... Leela quantum devices, Blue Shield scalar devices. I mean, this house has probably, like, too many energies. Uh, that's, that's interesting, though.

[00:32:24] Luke Storey: But the, the thing about, uh, you know, that realm of, like, EMF protection is, um, m- the ones that are there are non-physical, right? They're, they're passive, like FLFE or Quantum Upgrade. I'm not sure if you're familiar with those. Mm-hmm. But, you know, they're totally energetic-based, but there's no, there's no real device in your house.

[00:32:44] Luke Storey: It's passive, you know? Blue Shield makes the scalar- Mm-hmm ... generators, which, you know, are obviously doing something. But all of that Is I, I believe in all of it, otherwise I wouldn't use it and pay for it, but it's like, it's also difficult to prove. You [00:33:00] know, when it comes to EMF, it's difficult because you have the realm of physics that are provable, shielding, blocking, all of that.

[00:33:10] Luke Storey: But then you have the realm of like harmonizing, which is theoretical and difficult to prove, although I believe in some of it.

[00:33:18] Dmitri Leonov: Mm-hmm.

[00:33:18] Luke Storey: But there's also a lot of people out there making, um, non-physical , you know, harmonizing devices, little necklaces, pendants, little cards, et cetera, and I'm sure some of them are valid and some aren't.

[00:33:29] Luke Storey: Stickers you put on your phone, all that kind of stuff. Of that realm, I'm a bit more skeptical, skeptical because you can't really test it, you know?

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[00:35:20] Dmitri Leonov: Even though there's a lot of studies on Airy's tech website that, you know, they're trying to measure some, some proxy for anti-EMF well-being, right? It's a, it's gonna be a really exciting space. Um, and I think it's, you know, things are kind of escalating on the, the doom and gloom side of things, but at the same time we have technology to help combat-

[00:35:48] Luke Storey: Yeah

[00:35:48] Dmitri Leonov: not combat, that's, that's wrong. Um, help create the alternative reality that's- Yeah,

[00:35:52] Luke Storey: counterbalance.

[00:35:53] Dmitri Leonov: Yeah.

[00:35:54] Luke Storey: Um, so tell me about the You know, the impetus [00:36:00] to create the ONE device. Um, and before that, I'll just say, you know, there's over the years, I mean, this is probably going back, I don't know, 20 years, when I started to become aware of EMF.

[00:36:13] Luke Storey: Spent a lot of little pendants and necklaces over the years that are like, "Shield your body from EMF." Some of them might be real, some of them aren't. Um, you know, I have a little Leela quantum tech capsule necklace, which I really love. I mean, I've interviewed them enough times and know them to believe in their integrity, and they're constantly doing research that supports that there's a positive effect from it and stuff.

[00:36:35] Luke Storey: But it, it, it takes a lot for me to, like, put on a magic necklace, to be honest. You know what I mean? So when I found out about you guys, I'm like, oh, it's interesting. You're combining a number of different, uh, kind of energies at once, which is super cool. But I'm like, ah, it's another one of these, like, magic necklaces.

[00:36:51] Luke Storey: I'm like, really? But honestly, I'm... And I'm not blowing smoke 'cause you're sitting here. I don't really know how the thing works. I didn't look that deeply into it. I just thought, [00:37:00] well, you know, it looks kind of cool. But what I find is, uh, I wear this thing just about every day, all day, um, to the point where I always know where it is.

[00:37:11] Luke Storey: You know what I mean? There's a lot of... I got a lot of shit in this house. I, "Oh, where's that one thing at? I don't wanna go look for it," so I don't end up using it. But this thing's, like, on the kitchen island charging, or else it's on me. Um, especially because I've been doing a lot of writing for the past couple years, so I'm, like, very computer-centric life- Mm

[00:37:28] Luke Storey: which is extremely draining and stressful.

[00:37:30] Dmitri Leonov: Mm-hmm.

[00:37:31] Luke Storey: Um, so it's kind of like my little security blanket, but that's why, you know, I wanted to talk to you about it, 'cause I don't know how much of it is just my own placebo, which I'm not mad at. You know, I'm great. You, you know? To put anything around my neck, and if I believe it helps me, then it does help me, you know?

[00:37:46] Luke Storey: But, um, I know there's, you know, there's more, um, you know, kind of data and science behind what you've created. But I just, you know, I wanna give you kudos for whatever reason I gravitate toward this. I keep wearing it all the time, um, [00:38:00] which is kind of rare for me. I get a lot of things, I play with it for a few days, and I say, "Eh," I kind of forget about it.

[00:38:04] Luke Storey: You know, it doesn't really grab my attention.

[00:38:06] Dmitri Leonov: Mm-hmm.

[00:38:06] Luke Storey: So for what it's worth, uh, you know, you have a, a devotee here.

[00:38:11] Dmitri Leonov: Thank you

[00:38:11] Luke Storey: very much. Um, the one thing I did look into, which I'm very grateful for, is that you guys, uh, prevented it from being a source of EMF.

[00:38:21] Dmitri Leonov: Mm-hmm.

[00:38:21] Luke Storey: Which is a really, um, persistent irritation of mine.

[00:38:25] Luke Storey: People create these amazing technologies, and they're all freaking Bluetooth. You can't turn it off. There's no airplane mode. So I'm always trying to weigh the cost to benefit ratio. You know, I have this little Pulsetto, um, vagus nerve stimulator, which I love, but it's on Bluetooth, you know? So it's like, ah, is the benefit I'm getting to my nervous system worth the temp- you know, the eight-minute hit of Bluetooth around my freaking neck?

[00:38:49] Luke Storey: Yeah. So I still use it, but I'm like, ah, it'd be perfect if I could just Manually operated, you know? So you guys shielded the, the electric in here with [00:39:00] copper, I think.

[00:39:00] Dmitri Leonov: Yeah. Yeah.

[00:39:01] Luke Storey: So I was like, "Okay, cool, you nailed that part," uh, which is amazing, so I don't feel like I'm doing any harm to my body and I'm still getting the benefit.

[00:39:07] Luke Storey: Okay. Having said all that, give me the whole spiel. How did it come to be? How does it work? What's the deal?

[00:39:12] Dmitri Leonov: Sure. Um, honestly, the, I, the, the whole thing was kind of, uh, channeled, right? Everything is channeled, right? We, we don't... Thoughts just exist and then we just tune into them, right? Um, so the, the copper casing being, um, a Faraday cage, it wasn't like...

[00:39:31] Dmitri Leonov: It, it, we weren't trying to shield it on purpose. That, that was part of the whole design. Copper, particularly coupled with, uh, shungite, which is also inside, uh, there, there are some studies that show the, um, the, the neutralization of EMF as well. Uh, but copper is just, it's a, a very powerful metal that's been used for a very long time.

[00:39:52] Dmitri Leonov: And so that's just, that's a part of it. But really, the whole design was, um- Kind of [00:40:00] was channeled over the, the last, I guess, five years. Um, so my background is in tech and, uh, business. I'm not a, a doctor or, or, or an engineer. Um, but I've always been interested in, um, health tech and wellness tech, particularly around, uh, mental and emotional wellbeing.

[00:40:18] Dmitri Leonov: So like all the devices that, that we keep talking about, I've just been into this for a very long time. Um, about seven, eight years ago, I, um, got involved with a, with a, another wearable, uh, which was a light therapy, uh, device which converted your, uh, body heat into light and sends that light into your body.

[00:40:40] Dmitri Leonov: And so that one is a medical device that we primarily focus on neurological disorders. Uh, so it, it does amazing things for Parkinson's, MS, uh, fibromyalgia, and also for athletes. Um, so it's a noticeable increase.

[00:40:54] Luke Storey: Is that the Tau Patch? Yes. Oh, okay.

[00:40:56] Dmitri Leonov: Exactly.

[00:40:57] Luke Storey: Yeah.

[00:40:57] Dmitri Leonov: Uh, well, and around the same time I started thinking, what [00:41:00] else, um, what else can we do?

[00:41:02] Dmitri Leonov: So what-- how can we take what's working from Tau Patch, subtract what doesn't work, um, add, and what else can we add to make it more effective? And I wanted to make it, uh, wanted to make something that, uh, is, A, more affordable, uh, and just have more of a, more of an impact and, uh, easier to, to wear. So the, this kind of...

[00:41:23] Dmitri Leonov: This combines several modalities, uh, but also combines c- several, um, kind of bigger picture, uh, things together. So we wanted to make something that was just easy to wear, that you put it on, you don't have to think about it, you don't have to charge it, you don't have to think about, uh, connecting to a, an app.

[00:41:38] Dmitri Leonov: Um, you just put it on and, and forget it, right? Then it has to look good. So it-- like a lot of wearables don't really look like something you wanna wear, so that was another

[00:41:52] Luke Storey: requirement. You might-- If I ever wear the Apollo, uh, you know, bracelet out in public, people are like, "What time is it?" Like, "I don't know."

[00:41:59] Luke Storey: "Well, what's [00:42:00] that?" I go, "Okay, now I gotta go into the whole spiel." "Oh, vibration, nervous system," yeah.

[00:42:04] Dmitri Leonov: No, love, uh, Dave and Apollo. Um, but um- The, the, the idea was to combine several things, and so the things that make sense to combine, uh, are infrared light, because we know what infrared light does to the body.

[00:42:19] Dmitri Leonov: Ton of studies on this. We know what, um, uh, different colors of light, uh, can do. So there's visible light, infrared light, and sound. Um, then we also put, uh, two crystals, a clear quartz and shungite, and also some... Combine it in a way that through a lot of trial and error that, uh, over time, testing it on our alpha and beta users, that had an effect.

[00:42:44] Dmitri Leonov: Um, and it took a... If I knew how much it was, how much effort it was gonna take to make a hardware product, especially, uh, this small, uh, f- I

[00:42:55] Luke Storey: I imagine it- Uh ... it's been difficult to cram [00:43:00] that many things into- Yeah ... something so small.

[00:43:03] Dmitri Leonov: Not only that, turns out it's, uh... So I come from software, right? Uh, and working with, um, software engineers and software in general, uh, if you get something wrong, you just, you know, change a line of code.

[00:43:14] Dmitri Leonov: You p-patch it, and you're good to go. With hardware, you know, your cy- production cycle is way too long, um, and then there's the consequence of, of mistakes is, is not the same. And so it was just, it was hard to find the right people to work on this and, and to... Yeah, it took a few years, but we, we made it happen.

[00:43:35] Dmitri Leonov: Um, and then, well, so the way, the way it works is there- there are basically two explanations. There is the scientific, Western science explanation, and the more holistic and spiritual one. Um, the scientific explanation is, uh, it's just we took all the benefits of, um, red light, infrared light, light therapy, sound therapy, um, and made it wearable.[00:44:00]

[00:44:00] Dmitri Leonov: The problem is that all the study, all those thousands of studies done on those, um, on those modalities are done on stationary devices. So you go in for an hour on a red light bed. You feel great. You feel like a new person. Then you go back in traffic on top of your Tesla battery, and everything goes back to the way it was.

[00:44:18] Dmitri Leonov: And, um, our idea is, "Hey, let's make it wearable." And so instead of w-with the stationary devices, it's like you're screaming at your nervous system for an hour, and then it stops. Uh, with us, it's like you're whispering all the time, which actually turns out to be a lot more effective because your nervous system likes these subtle, uh, changes instead of these big jumps.

[00:44:39] Dmitri Leonov: The more s- the spiritual explanation, which I like more, is, um, so we, we know everything vibrates and resonates with everything else. So we all have our, uh, core f-frequency or s-set of frequencies that we, we feel a flow, we feel balanced. It's the sympathetic, parasympathetic, um, uh, balance, [00:45:00] uh, all the good things that happen, um, rest and digest, y-you know.

[00:45:03] Dmitri Leonov: And if we lived in a forest, uh, drinking cleanest water without any EMF around us, we probably wouldn't need the ONE device. Um, in fact, I- if you live in a forest and drink spring water, I don't recommend it. Um, unfortunately for most of us, we are surrounded with a lot of other energies that take us out of resonance with ourself and into dissonance with, with ourself really.

[00:45:26] Dmitri Leonov: And so big reason for the disease, uh, chronic diseases and, and stress, et cetera, is this noise that we're constantly surrounded with, with. And so what, what the ONE device does is it helps you come back to yourself. It helps you come back to that core frequency. It gives you something coherent to, to resonate with and bring yourself back.

[00:45:48] Dmitri Leonov: So it's not... In, in a way, it is a tool, right? That, that's do- that's external to you, but the only thing this tool does is help you come back to yourself. It helps you [00:46:00] come back to that state of balance where your body can start to heal itself, where you feel in flow, balanced, calm, focused, et cetera. So, so it's really you that's doing the work.

[00:46:09] Dmitri Leonov: It's just a quick reminder to help you get there, return there.

[00:46:13] Luke Storey: Sort of like a compass.

[00:46:16] Dmitri Leonov: Yeah. Yeah.

[00:46:17] Luke Storey: Like a energetic compass where your body's going like, "Hmm, there's something to pay attention to here." With the infrared light, uh, which I didn't realize, I thought it was just a colored light for- Mm-hmm ... for those...

[00:46:28] Luke Storey: Well, you probably can't see it on the video, but I just keep mine on the cycling. It just cycles through, but apparently you can, uh- Yeah ... you can choose what- Sure ... whatever color you want.

[00:46:37] Dmitri Leonov: Yeah. So I, I do the same thing. I just let it rotate, but you can, um... So if you just, if you lay it down, uh, horizontally, it turns off, but if you lay it down and then quickly start tapping it, it...

[00:46:50] Dmitri Leonov: You can-

[00:46:50] Luke Storey: Oh, cool ...

[00:46:51] Dmitri Leonov: yeah, you can pick the frequency that you want.

[00:46:53] Luke Storey: So with the infrared light- You know, is it-- how do we know how deep [00:47:00] it's penetrating? Is it just, like, hitting the surface of the skin and there's some kind of signaling there, or is it going centimeters in, or do we know? Or does it matter?

[00:47:09] Dmitri Leonov: It's not centimeters. It's, it's le- less, uh, definitely less than a centimeter, um, but it, it does penetrate deeper than, um, other, uh, other light. Um, yeah, so half of the LED is, is the infrared light.

[00:47:21] Luke Storey: And I've never tried to listen to it, but if you did, could you hear the frequencies?

[00:47:28] Dmitri Leonov: Yeah. Yeah, if you put it to your ear and-

[00:47:30] Luke Storey: But I'm also, like, pretty deaf.

[00:47:33] Dmitri Leonov: That's a good, it's a good test. But normally, if you're, like... So here I, I still hear it. Here I start to lose it.

[00:47:41] Luke Storey: So i- it's, it's loud enough for, you know, 'cause your skin is very sensitive, right? So loud might not be the right word, but the, the vibratory effect is subtle yet, um, noticeable by your skin, I'm [00:48:00] as- assuming your nervous system.

[00:48:01] Luke Storey: Like the Apollo, I mean, it has a, kind of a volume. You can turn it up and it's like, "Zz," really going. Mm-hmm. But they say it works just as well if, if it's sub-perceptual. So this would be a sub-perceptual- Yeah ... kind of vibration or frequency. But it's always on if you have the, uh, one device oriented this way- Mm-hmm

[00:48:20] Luke Storey: then it's on, right? Yeah. If it's not kind of laying upside down, then it's automatically on.

[00:48:25] Dmitri Leonov: Yeah. Well, we are about to release an app. Um, and I, I s- I already said no apps, and you don't need the app. Uh, but it does give you a couple of extra controls. One of them is you can turn off that, um, horizontal turn off, meaning it's- Oh, okay

[00:48:40] Dmitri Leonov: always gonna be on. Um-

[00:48:42] Luke Storey: Uh, and then what about, like, because we were doing this interview and I wanted to show this off, I have it on the outside of my shirt, but I always wear it on the inside of my shirt 'cause I'm feeling like it's better for the light to be right on the skin.

[00:48:54] Dmitri Leonov: Yeah, probably. I mean, you can...

[00:48:57] Dmitri Leonov: S- it still shines through a, a shirt. [00:49:00] Like, shirt is okay, but if it's a jacket, it probably wouldn't, wouldn't reach. But, um, yeah.

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[00:50:44] Luke Storey: And, and how far off is the customization that you were, uh, alluding to earlier?

[00:50:50] Dmitri Leonov: So, okay, so there are different levels of customization. And so the one I was talking about earlier, uh, you can actually do today. We haven't like publicly announced it yet, but it's coming definitely this summer or [00:51:00] before the end of the summer.

[00:51:01] Dmitri Leonov: Um, if you go on our website right now, you can still-- a-and you look for bio-tuning, I think it's in the footer, uh, you can find there's unfortunately not many locations right now around the world where you can do this. So you have to go into one of the cen- one of our partner centers, and it's a 20-minute process, uh, to find your frequency, and then you can just load it into here.

[00:51:21] Dmitri Leonov: And so you're gonna, you're gonna appreciate this. The way, um, the way the customization works is without Bluetooth, without any EMF. And this was one of the, um, like when I, when I mentioned like channeled, right? So it's one of those things that just kind of, kind of comes, right? You don't, you don't own the ideas, they just kind of come to you.

[00:51:45] Dmitri Leonov: Um, and so the way-- so for example, I can, um, once you find out your bio-tuning frequency, um, you can enter it. Um, so I know mine, mine is ninety-eight point, uh, thirty-two. Um, and now I'm gonna upload it to my one [00:52:00] device. So the way it works is you, um, you have to hold it vertically for a few seconds until this blue light comes on, and then you just have to touch it to the phone.

[00:52:10] Dmitri Leonov: And now I'm gonna Press this button. This button. And so now the phone is gonna vibrate, and there's a sensor on the-

[00:52:23] Luke Storey: Oh, no way.

[00:52:24] Dmitri Leonov: Yeah. Ah, and I, I just canceled it, so let me try again. Um, yeah, so there's a sensor here, and I can... Let me do it like this so you can see. Um, yeah, that, that picks up the vibration, um, and so-

[00:52:38] Luke Storey: What?

[00:52:39] Dmitri Leonov: Yeah. And so it's kinda like Morse code. Um- That's

[00:52:42] Luke Storey: so cool.

[00:52:43] Dmitri Leonov: Yeah. Yeah, so this was how we figured out how to, uh, communicate without, um-

[00:52:50] Luke Storey: Without having to use- Without Bluetooth ...

[00:52:51] Dmitri Leonov: Bluetooth. Yeah.

[00:52:52] Luke Storey: That's cool. Thank you for doing that.

[00:52:54] Dmitri Leonov: Well, this also leads to... There's a couple of other things that are really cool.

[00:52:57] Dmitri Leonov: So, uh, we can-- we have this thing called [00:53:00] circadian mode, um, where it adjusts the frequencies by time of day. Uh, here, I'll just show you how it works. Um, so this is... The, the app is still in beta, but it's, it's coming really soon. So it takes, I don't know, a few seconds. Um, and so now with the circadian mode, it, it sends more energizing frequencies in the morning, uh, and more calming at night.

[00:53:21] Luke Storey: Really?

[00:53:22] Dmitri Leonov: Yeah. That's cool. Uh, but then the, the really cool... So see? And it-- once it s-syncs, it, uh, blinks green. So now it's programmed. But now the really cool thing, I'm kind of excited about this, so we can, uh, sync with your HRV through Apple Health or Google Health, and we now-- with HRV, we know your state, so we know which frequencies to serve you.

[00:53:42] Dmitri Leonov: Uh, so you can... That's one of the customizations. And then the other one that's really cool is, uh, voice analysis. So you can, uh, speak into the mic for 10 seconds. Uh, and, um, I've been learning about this, um, recently. There are a ton of, um, markers in your [00:54:00] voice that we just are beginning to understand. I think, in fact, uh, when we talk about the f- where, where the future is headed, I think voice is gonna be one of the key, um- New, new tools that we're gonna be using.

[00:54:11] Dmitri Leonov: And so again, by your voice, you can tell kind of what state you're in, and we can help you come back to base or, or even higher.

[00:54:19] Luke Storey: Yeah, the voice analysis is really interesting. I mean, the, uh, intelligence community and the military has been using voice analysis for a long time.

[00:54:27] Dmitri Leonov: And there are different levels of this.

[00:54:28] Dmitri Leonov: So w- we can use voice analysis to figure out if you're angry or not. Like, that's, that's very easy. But, um, there's also a tremendous amount of math there. So we have, um... And I, and we didn't develop this technology. This is partners of ours. Um, so by your voice, we can diagnose, um, cancer before radiology. We can diagnose if somebody had an injury on their s- So this is just a, a real case.

[00:54:55] Dmitri Leonov: Somebody had a, a, like a childhood injury on their spine. Nothing, nothing bad, just, [00:55:00] you know, some, um, small injury, uh, specifically on their, like, sixth and seventh vertebra. After speaking for 30 seconds into the, the mic, we can tell specifically which vertebra he had damage on.

[00:55:13] Luke Storey: Really?

[00:55:14] Dmitri Leonov: It's insane That's

[00:55:16] Luke Storey: crazy.

[00:55:18] Luke Storey: And so that will be, uh, an upcoming feature that you'll be able to use to be able to more personalization in terms of tuning.

[00:55:27] Dmitri Leonov: Yeah. So with the-- if you're an An-- I'm very happy to say this. If you're an Android, you can have the beta already. Uh, iPhone will be ready in a couple of weeks.

[00:55:36] Luke Storey: With the, um, with the wearables industry as a whole, which is something that's, you know, becoming more prevalent, I think the first thing I had was the Oura Ring, you know, and it was really...

[00:55:47] Luke Storey: I, I kind of fell out of wearing it. Uh, but I wore it consistently for years just because it helped me gamify my sleep, you know? So it's like I, I wanted to get a better score, you [00:56:00] know? And then I would also learn some of the things that helped or hurt my sleep. Um, but as I looked at the trends over the years, there weren't, like, major changes.

[00:56:09] Luke Storey: I never saw a hockey stick moment of like, oh my God, when I started doing X, Y, and Z, my sleep crushed. So I think over time, I was like, okay, I kind of get it. Mm-hmm. Um, and there's also the kind of the, the nocebo effect of it too, where if you get up and check your Oura Ring or whatever wearable and it says you slept like shit, then you subconsciously trick yourself into feeling bad and having low energy that day, right?

[00:56:33] Dmitri Leonov: Yeah. '

[00:56:33] Luke Storey: Cause every times where I felt like I slept crappy, got up, and I got a really great score and vice versa. Mm-hmm. And so I noticed sometimes if I, if I had too much of a rigid belief in a negative score, then it would kind of impact my performance. That was one, one kind of downside I saw. Yeah. Um, as someone who comes from the tech space, and obviously you're, you're fully in it in terms of health tech, what do you see as benefits [00:57:00] versus downsides of, of wearables in general when we're, you know, talking within that, within the wellness space?

[00:57:07] Dmitri Leonov: Wearables that track you?

[00:57:08] Luke Storey: Yeah. Just, yeah, the whole thing. Yeah.

[00:57:11] Dmitri Leonov: Okay. Well, because they're, they're... I say there are two classes. There's wearables that want something from you, that track you, um, and, uh, I mean, I, I'm seeing this am-am-among my friends, like people are taking off their Auras and their, their Whoops because, yeah, like you said, you're, you're not learning anything new.

[00:57:27] Dmitri Leonov: Plus there's the EMF factor. Um, you, you can put it on airplane mode, but still. Um, and then you're not really learning anything new, and plus there is this, I forget the term. There is a term for this now. It's the anxiety that comes from checking your, uh, your health data, right? Kind of what you're describing, so- So, there, there's anticipation, then there's anxiety from it, so it's not really...

[00:57:51] Dmitri Leonov: I am personally, I don't know if it's a good or a bad thing, I've never had a, a smartwatch or a Oura or a Whoop. Um, I guess [00:58:00] I just rely on my feeling.

[00:58:02] Luke Storey: Yeah. Oh, yeah, your body actually can tell you what it wants and needs if you listen to it. Yeah. I, I mean, I think that stuff is interesting, um, but yeah, in my own experience, as I said, there just comes a point where you're like, "Okay, I kind of, I feel like I've gotten all the data that is useful at this point."

[00:58:19] Luke Storey: Yeah. Until it becomes more sophisticated, right, and more accurate. I'm sure people- Yeah ... are gonna come up with something that is more meaningful in terms of the data you get, um, accuracy, and just different metrics.

[00:58:32] Dmitri Leonov: Yeah.

[00:58:32] Luke Storey: I mean, if I looked at my HRV over the course of a few years, like, not a lot changed, and I'm going, "Dude, I'm doing so many things all the time," so maybe that isn't, you know, the only thing I should be looking at, and there's other, uh- Sure

[00:58:46] Luke Storey: metrics that wearables might be able to give us that they just don't yet. Maybe they're metrics that we don't even know exist, and so we're not looking for them or, or, or developing, uh, technologies that read them.

[00:58:58] Dmitri Leonov: Mm-hmm. Well, there's-- Are, are you [00:59:00] familiar with BioWell?

[00:59:01] Luke Storey: No, I don't think so.

[00:59:02] Dmitri Leonov: Uh, so this is based on, um, Kirlian photography, where it measures the bio photons emitted from your, your body.

[00:59:09] Luke Storey: Mm-hmm.

[00:59:09] Dmitri Leonov: And it's really interesting. So we, we just did, um, kind of a before and after with a few, few folks, uh, with, with their BioWell, and it basically essentially tests your aura, um, and your kind of your functioning of your energetic centers/chakras, and, uh, it's been, yeah, it's been fascinating to see kind of the before and after.

[00:59:28] Dmitri Leonov: And, uh, so even as related to HRV, so we, we haven't, um, we haven't done a proper HRV study. Uh, so we just finished our pilot study with just a, a self-reported questionnaire where we're tracking, um, wellbeing, stress, et cetera, and the results are, uh, re-really out, really outstanding. But, uh, we're about to do one with HRV, so we're seeing, uh, HRV consistently improving, uh, for people.

[00:59:54] Dmitri Leonov: Oh, cool. And so, and so we're gonna, like, do this as a proper study next.[01:00:00]

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[01:01:30] Luke Storey: What do you have in mind, uh, if you could, you know, if you had the funding, what would be your dream studies? What kind of study would you put together to show the efficacy of the ONE device?

[01:01:43] Dmitri Leonov: I think one is the double-blind would, would be a, a must. Uh, we have some ideas of how to do this. Like, you would just have to put it on some bad frequencies, right?

[01:01:52] Dmitri Leonov: 'Cause, 'cause you know if it's working or not. Um, so that would be, that would be a must. [01:02:00] Um, and then I mean, so, okay, I mean, we're kind of doing this already. I don't, I don't think it's a funding, uh, problem. Um, so we're, we're measuring, um, brainwave activity, and we're seeing theta and alpha increase. Um, HRV is probably the closest proxy for wellbeing, so obviously.

[01:02:19] Dmitri Leonov: Um, so we've just did this with, uh, BioWell with, um, photon emissions from your body. Uh, and then, um, I mean, the, the, the fascinating thing with studies is, so the actual cost of doing the study is really not that much. Uh, as soon as you kind of have a university name attached to it, the price tag goes up at least 10X, actually more.

[01:02:41] Dmitri Leonov: Oh,

[01:02:41] Luke Storey: wow.

[01:02:41] Dmitri Leonov: Yeah. It's crazy. Um, and so our, so our kind of... We wanted to go to market v- before spending time on studies, and so with our last product, with Telpatch, we had 17 studies, including two on PubMed, um, some of them like [01:03:00] year-long plus, uh, on MS patients, and the results are just incredible. Um, and still, somebody always complains about the study not being done.

[01:03:10] Dmitri Leonov: Uh, like we had this year-long study on 30 people, so like, "Oh, it's only 30 people." Okay. Um, there's, there's always some kind of an issue. And so our philosophy with this, uh, in the beginning was, okay, uh, the only study that matters has a sample of one, and that's you. If it's working for you, great. If it's not working for you, we have a 90-day money-back guarantee.

[01:03:30] Dmitri Leonov: Just send it back. We'll happily refund you, no problem. Um, so we are doing studies now just 'cause it's kind of fun and it's, uh, and why not? Uh, but, uh, I-I'm kind of a subscriber to this. I mean, I-- when I see a study and it shows that it's, it's working for 100 people or even 200 people, yes, it's great to know, but I wanna try it on myself and see if it works for me.

[01:03:51] Dmitri Leonov: If there's no downside, why wouldn't I try it?

[01:03:54] Luke Storey: Yeah, true that. True that. Uh, for people listening that wanna check out the One Device, here's what you do. Go [01:04:00] to the... Let's see. What is it? theonedevice.com/lukestory. If you use the code Lukestory, you get 20 bucks off, and we'll put all of that in the show notes.

[01:04:10] Luke Storey: And by the way, the show notes for today are lukestory.com/onedevice, and anything that's clickable will be in the show description. What's the frequency of love? Has anyone determined that?

[01:04:21] Dmitri Leonov: Really good question. So, uh-

[01:04:23] Luke Storey: I think that's the one we all need.

[01:04:25] Dmitri Leonov: So, I love that. So the frequency of love that they, that is commonly accepted is 528 hertz.

[01:04:32] Dmitri Leonov: Uh, it's the green color on the One Device. Um, and so we just did a, an event where we had 60 people, um, at, for, over this weekend all wearing it, so we all tuned it to the love frequency. So the, the real answer, I think, is, uh, the frequency of love is the, it's that- It's not really a frequency because it's not a-- So anything, [01:05:00] a, a frequency is a on-off, right?

[01:05:01] Dmitri Leonov: Or it's up and down. Uh, the frequency of love is, I think, is much closer to the scalar waves that we were talking about. So it's more of the-- It's more like a grid than, than a wave.

[01:05:13] Luke Storey: Right.

[01:05:14] Dmitri Leonov: Um, and it's more like a, um- Structure rather. So, so in my mind, uh, love is actually the building block of a... It's the m- material of it, that, that everything is made of

[01:05:27] Luke Storey: So it would be the substrate-

[01:05:31] Dmitri Leonov: Yeah

[01:05:32] Luke Storey: prior to the wave- Yeah ... and prior to the particle.

[01:05:37] Dmitri Leonov: Yeah. Exactly.

[01:05:37] Luke Storey: Yeah. It's like the Aether almost, right? Yeah. It's like there's- Exactly ... we're swimming in love, we just don't know it.

[01:05:43] Dmitri Leonov: Exactly.

[01:05:44] Luke Storey: Many of us forget it.

[01:05:46] Dmitri Leonov: It's the Aether. It's the old concept of Aether. Exactly.

[01:05:48] Luke Storey: Yeah, yeah. But it's, it's funny to think of...

[01:05:50] Luke Storey: I love... I haven't... I don't know that much about it, but the idea of Aether, as I understand it, is like there's nothing that's not it. It's kind of like if you're [01:06:00] underwater in the sea, right, scuba diving. It's like, if you ask a scuba diver, "Hey, where's the water?" It's like, "What are you talking about? It's all water.

[01:06:06] Luke Storey: That's all there is," right?

[01:06:07] Dmitri Leonov: Yeah.

[01:06:07] Luke Storey: That's kind of how I think of that, but I've never framed it that way. I'm thinking about like, oh, the frequency of love in terms of, uh, you know, when it comes down out of that realm and you can concentrate it, what is it, you know? But I like that idea that it's just, um, it's everything, and that's all there is.

[01:06:24] Dmitri Leonov: Yeah. There's nothing, s- there's nothing that's not love, right? That's,

[01:06:28] Luke Storey: in other words. And that would sound pretty airy-fairy to anyone who hasn't had a big hit of bufo.

[01:06:36] Luke Storey: Yeah. That's why I started with that particular topic. You know? By, by far, I mean, not even comparable, the, the most supernatural experiences of my life, you know? And, and simultaneously, the m- the, the most love and also the most terror- Yeah ... all at once. Yeah. You know, that's the thing about it. It's like, if you wanna experience [01:07:00] a non-dual state, you gotta be prepared for everything at once, right?

[01:07:05] Luke Storey: 'Cause there's no-

[01:07:06] Dmitri Leonov: Mm.

[01:07:06] Luke Storey: There's no polarity.

[01:07:08] Dmitri Leonov: Mm-hmm.

[01:07:08] Luke Storey: The unity state means it's unifying everything that is, you know, for all of eternity in a moment, and it's just mind-blowing. Yeah. It's probably good that it is, like, so intense, otherwise I would be doing it every day. It's been a few years, and even when I think about it, I'm just like, "Ah, God."

[01:07:28] Luke Storey: Really? You know? I don't know if I could, I don't know if I could handle it again.

[01:07:31] Dmitri Leonov: Well, you know, the, the funny thing, you mentioned that. So I, there was a period in my life where I was kind of on the search for how everything is made of, uh, what everything is made of, how everything works. Um, and after that one experience, I was like, "Oh, okay.

[01:07:44] Dmitri Leonov: I don't really have to do anything again. I'm, I'm done." Um, and maybe that's arrogant, but, uh, it really feels like, at the time, like I... It kind of feels like a period at the end of a sentence.

[01:07:55] Luke Storey: 100%. It's... I, I thought about it as we, uh, you know, in the West, we measure [01:08:00] time as, like, BC, AD, right? It's like my life had a-

[01:08:04] Dmitri Leonov: Mm

[01:08:04] Luke Storey: a, you know, a BB and a AB. Before bufo and after bufo. Yeah. Never thought about it like that 'cause I don't think I could get the, you know, the, the letters right. But yeah, it was like just Totally different life experience from that point moving forward. Right. Such a massive, massive shift.

[01:08:23] Dmitri Leonov: Right.

[01:08:23] Luke Storey: And in a way, it's like I can only relate to other people that haven't had the experience to a certain degree.

[01:08:30] Luke Storey: It's like, it's something that I can only share with people who have had the experience. Yeah. That's not, you know, a, a hierarchy kind of thing. It's just like, ah, God, I wish we could talk about this thing. Mm. But it's going to be theoretical, uh, i- in a dialogue unless someone else has had the experience.

[01:08:47] Luke Storey: There's kind of like a, there's a real wink there. Yeah. A wink and a nudge. Like you know, right, what's out there?

[01:08:52] Dmitri Leonov: Yeah, yeah.

[01:08:53] Luke Storey: How crazy shit is and can be, you know?

[01:08:58] Dmitri Leonov: Yeah.

[01:08:58] Luke Storey: Yeah. One, one [01:09:00] thing that, uh, I think was lasting for me is, uh, more of an acceptance of and an understanding of duality, right? It's just seeing how It's necessary for God or consciousness to express itself-

[01:09:19] Dmitri Leonov: Mm-hmm

[01:09:20] Luke Storey: in an infinite number of ways, otherwise it can't know itself, right? 'Cause that's always been, you know, a conundrum for me is like, okay, if God is real and God is love, why is there suffering and evil and darkness in the world, right? But it's like without that contrast, y- y- you don't know the other. Like, you, you wouldn't be able to really appreciate and know love unless you'd experienced the opposite of that, right?

[01:09:43] Luke Storey: Totally. And so it's like a lot of ideas that I'd sort of been chewing on and digesting and studying in terms of, um, you know, theology and philosophy that made sense to me on an intuitive level. Those experiences [01:10:00] helped me to, uh, actually t- take it a step further than intellectual understanding. It was like the, the intellectual constructs I had about those ideas were reconciled through felt experience.

[01:10:14] Luke Storey: Mm-hmm. And just like, okay.

[01:10:15] Dmitri Leonov: Right, right, yeah.

[01:10:16] Luke Storey: Now I get it. You know? Now I get why God does what God does. Yeah. There's a, there's a purpose to it, you know? It gave me a lot of, a lot of peace and, um, y- I think helped with my ability to, uh, not be attached to my perception of things as good or bad.

[01:10:32] Dmitri Leonov: Hmm.

[01:10:33] Luke Storey: You know, just to be able to go, "Oh, that just is what it is."

[01:10:36] Luke Storey: Like, the-- It's so humbling, I think. That's the thing, right? You just go, "What do

[01:10:41] Dmitri Leonov: I know?"

[01:10:41] Luke Storey: Yeah. You know? It's like I have no right to label someone or something as bad or good or it should be this way or it should be that way. It's like there's such a bigger orchestration at play-

[01:10:52] Dmitri Leonov: Mm-hmm ...

[01:10:52] Luke Storey: uh, over which I have less than zero control.

[01:10:55] Luke Storey: So what if I just what if I'm in a state of allowing and I just am open [01:11:00] and receptive to whatever this experience has to offer, even if it's really painful and uncomfortable?

[01:11:05] Dmitri Leonov: Hmm. Yes, and I think the other thing that w- that's really, um, eye-opening is the scale of everything. Uh, all that is, right? So on the one end, you are it, right?

[01:11:17] Dmitri Leonov: Meaning everything is inside of you, so you are God. Uh, and on the other s- uh, end of the spectrum, you kind of see that All of the, everything that we consider the universe with all the stars and the galaxies that are indescribably infinitely, you know, uh, vast, that is a tiny portion of everything it actually is.

[01:11:38] Dmitri Leonov: Like, that was another very clear vision. A-and that's just, that's incredibly humbling

[01:11:43] Luke Storey: Right, that what we perceive the world and the universe to be is, is such a narrow sliver- Exactly ... of a bandwidth, right?

[01:11:51] Dmitri Leonov: The m-

[01:11:51] Luke Storey: There's a, there's a, the, a, a, like a, a multiplicity of dimensionality. Yeah. Yeah. I'm trying to use big words here, but it takes [01:12:00] big words to talk about something big, right?

[01:12:02] Luke Storey: It's like, because w- you know, because we're in a body, and we're, everything is based on the speed of light, right? Like, all of what we perceive to be time and everything is all based on light. So we're, we're still operating within such a narrow bandwidth of visible light. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And we've been talking about frequency, which goes, like, beyond that.

[01:12:21] Luke Storey: But there's also levels of that, right? So it's like, that are totally beyond comprehension.

[01:12:27] Dmitri Leonov: Yeah. Exactly.

[01:12:28] Luke Storey: You know?

[01:12:29] Dmitri Leonov: Yeah, and, and I, I, th- it's funny 'cause I, I remember the, them, but it's, like, really hard to put it into concrete words and, like, even explain it to myself.

[01:12:37] Luke Storey: Yeah. Yeah. Well, dude, um, thank you for taking the time to come visit me.

[01:12:42] Luke Storey: Thank you for making something super cool that isn't like a corny-ass fake little frequency pendant. Uh, God bless people. They're trying to... You know, people have the best of intentions, I'm sure. But it's just like, "Oh my God," over the years. It's like, "Oh God, another one? Another little phone sticker? [01:13:00] Another f- magic necklace?"

[01:13:01] Luke Storey: So I, I, I believe you've really done something, uh, innovative and unique, and as I said, I find myself wearing it, so that's... I love seeing studies. Like, I have my, you know, my analytical mind too, but- The

[01:13:13] Dmitri Leonov: left brain needs something, right?

[01:13:14] Luke Storey: But also, it's just like I have been learning more, uh, thanks to my wife, to really, um, put more credence in my intuition.

[01:13:23] Dmitri Leonov: Hmm.

[01:13:23] Luke Storey: You know, to really listen to the, the subtleties, um, of life and in my experience. And so watching her, uh, around the house over the years as she gravitates toward things or away from things, I go, "How does she know that?" You know?

[01:13:36] Dmitri Leonov: Hmm.

[01:13:37] Luke Storey: She knows what works because she's much more in tune with her, with her body and her, her energy field, you know?

[01:13:42] Luke Storey: Right. So I'm slowly kind of picking up inspiration from that and also starting to notice like, huh, there's a reason why I keep going back to this thing, you know? There's something in it for me-

[01:13:52] Dmitri Leonov: Right ...

[01:13:52] Luke Storey: that has nothing to do with the study, right?

[01:13:54] Dmitri Leonov: Right.

[01:13:54] Luke Storey: Exactly. Uh, or some sales pitch I've been given. It's just like, hmm, I don't know.

[01:13:58] Luke Storey: My body is giving me [01:14:00] a little, uh, a little nudge to go that way or this way.

[01:14:04] Dmitri Leonov: And honestly, th- this is why we do this. Like, it's so incredible to hear this, and we, we were at this, uh, biohacking conference, Beyond Biohacking, um, last few days, and we have people coming up to us and l- and literally three people said that it's changed their life.

[01:14:18] Dmitri Leonov: And I was like, "What?"

[01:14:19] Luke Storey: Really?

[01:14:19] Dmitri Leonov: To be... Yeah, I didn't expect that, but it was Uh, yeah. It's wonderful. But, uh, one, one thing that's also important, I mean, this is, um, like I said, it's-- this is one part of, of the arsenal, right? Um, so there's-- still important to eat good food, still important to drink clean water. Um, and, uh, so, you know, we are-- like this is step one for us.

[01:14:43] Dmitri Leonov: Uh, like I said, we have other devices coming out as well, but, uh, for us, it's really the ecosystem. So we're, um, we're adding kind of the educational layer and the... Yeah, that's probably the best way to put it, educational layer around it. Um, my, uh, w-wife and co-founder is, uh, is a PhD in, [01:15:00] um, in neuropsychology, and so we're adding some of those, uh, things that kind of help your brain process this as well.

[01:15:07] Dmitri Leonov: Um, because we, we know that we're entering a really different time, right? Uh, and that's the other thing, it's like we don't-- what's-- things that are gonna be happening with, um, health tech, that, that's one thing. But just what's happening in the world is, is insane. One analogy I really like is, um- Um, w- uh, water, right?

[01:15:29] Dmitri Leonov: So if you're a swimmer swimming through water, uh, from zero to, or one to 99.9 degrees, you still can swim through it. It's get, gets hot, but you can still, um, swim through it. And then once it gets to 100, it turns into vapor. And suddenly if you're a swimmer, what do you do? And so we are about to get there, right?

[01:15:48] Dmitri Leonov: And what's really interesting is your or our brain is, has always been a terrible tool to predict the future, right? It's great at analyzing the past. It really doesn't predict [01:16:00] the future well. Uh, we are entering a world where the past is no longer any kind of proxy for what's gonna happen. And so any kind of analysis, especially with your left brain, is not gonna mean anything anymore.

[01:16:13] Dmitri Leonov: Uh, it's called-- So have you heard of the VUCA world? No?

[01:16:16] Luke Storey: No.

[01:16:17] Dmitri Leonov: Um, so VUCA is the, is what's been happening for the last few years. It's, um, V-U-C-A, volatility, uncertainty, complexity, and ambiguity. That's the world we're, we're living in. So now those letters are shifting to BANI, B-A-N-I. So vol- from volatility, we go to brittleness, where things just break.

[01:16:34] Dmitri Leonov: Uh, A is anx- so from, uh, uncertainty, it's now anxiety, so it's really bad. Uh, N is, um, non. For instead of complexity, it's non-linearity, and that's the really big one.

[01:16:51] Luke Storey: Mm.

[01:16:51] Dmitri Leonov: Mm. So now, uh, basically the 80/20 rule becomes like 99/1 rule. So that, so now, [01:17:00] you know, everything's a lot more volatile. And then I is inex- in- inexplicability.

[01:17:06] Dmitri Leonov: So now it's just you cannot understand what's happening. Anyway, so that's a long, long, uh, preface. But, um, in that state where your brain doesn't really know what's happening, the only thing that seems to matter is your connection to that higher self, connection to yourself, to your intuition, uh, which really means your state, right?

[01:17:25] Dmitri Leonov: And so this is what we're going after. It's, uh, helping people be in that state where everything is just a little bit easier. Um, and the side effect of that is your health also works much better.

[01:17:38] Luke Storey: Is this shift you described with those acronyms, um, is that, is that yoked to The, the exponential, uh, development of technology and AI and things like that where things are moving faster than we can possibly conceive?

[01:17:57] Dmitri Leonov: I think, I don't think it's cor- uh, it's correlated. I don't think it's- Okay ... [01:18:00] caused.

[01:18:00] Luke Storey: Okay.

[01:18:00] Dmitri Leonov: There's no causality. Uh, it's, uh, it... I think it would've happened regardless. Uh, we're just in, it's in that time. I forget the term for it, but there's, uh, there's an ancient Vedic concept of, uh, um, there are four time periods, so we're in the last one, right?

[01:18:15] Dmitri Leonov: Where it's the shortest one and it's the most insane one, and it's also why there's more and more people being born because people wanna live in this time. It's just an exciting time to be alive.

[01:18:24] Luke Storey: That's a good way to think about it. I, I'm always kind of dancing between like it's the worst of times, it's the best of times, you know?

[01:18:30] Luke Storey: Exactly. If I stay off Twitter, I feel pretty optimistic. You know? Or Telegram even worse. Like, today, I h- I've been off Twitter for like, I don't know. It's weird. I've wanted to quit it. It's like a drug for me. I've wanted to- Oh ... 'cause all I look at is like political shit- Mm ... and just toxic stuff, you know?

[01:18:49] Luke Storey: It's what my feed gives me, and so I'm like, "It's not good for me."

[01:18:52] Dmitri Leonov: Mm-mm.

[01:18:53] Luke Storey: Yet I like to know what's going on in the world. Mm. But I've, if I felt like I had the self-control, I would just delete the app. [01:19:00] I've deleted it like probably 10 times. And then I just go on my browser and look at it, and I go, "I might as well have the app," you know?

[01:19:06] Luke Storey: Yeah. Then I reinstall the app. Me too. I know. It's, it's a love-hate relationship. But for whatever reason recently, um, I just, I don't wanna look at it. But I did look at Telegram this morning, and, um, 'cause I have a Telegram channel, so I, you know, like to post like shitty memes on there and stuff. And I didn't feel that great after.

[01:19:25] Luke Storey: I was like scroll- doom scrolling through Telegram of looking at what's going on in the world, you know? And it was like, it's great to have a break and to step back, and when I'm not engaged in all of those, all the drama of the world over which I have zero control, I just feel a lot better, you know? It's, and it's not like a denial, put my head in the sand thing.

[01:19:45] Luke Storey: It's just like, wow, what if I focus on the solution-

[01:19:49] Dmitri Leonov: Yeah ...

[01:19:50] Luke Storey: which, you know, is like why I do this podcast- Yeah ... is giving people solutions to all of our ails, you know? Yeah. Uh, but I find my mental and emotional wellbeing is much better [01:20:00] when I'm focused on the fact that- More humans are waking up right now than ever in, you know, in my lifetime for sure, and maybe even in recent recorded history, right?

[01:20:15] Luke Storey: So it's like you have AI, and you have, like, all the governments are out of control, and they're just warmongering pedophiles, and it's so dark. I mean, it really is. When you start to understand the way that this realm operates it's gnarly. But at the same time, you know, thanks to independent media- Yeah

[01:20:32] Luke Storey: like myself and so many other people that I've, uh, been inspired by, I don't think there's, um, I don't think they can put the, the rabbit back in the hat at this point. No. Like, too many people are awake to what's- Yeah ... going on, and what's even more encouraging, at least in this country, is, um, you know, they've had us in this, like, left and right dialectic for so long, which I've, I've known is, like, fake and manufactured.

[01:20:57] Luke Storey: Um, but I'm kinda waiting for everyone to catch up. You know? [01:21:00] It's just like there's two groups. There's... You're pro-human, pro-life, pro-love, or you're not.

[01:21:08] Dmitri Leonov: Hmm.

[01:21:09] Luke Storey: You know? And so it's like-

[01:21:10] Dmitri Leonov: Hmm ...

[01:21:11] Luke Storey: I don't care if we disagree on the surface level minutia, cultural issues, social issues, things like that. It's like, can we all just agree that killing people is bad unless it's, you know, the last resort of self-defense?

[01:21:26] Luke Storey: And harming children is not a great idea? Let's just all... Like, whoever is on board with that, I'm with you. You know what I mean? So if I stay on that, I realize, like, wow, so many more people are on that side, if you could call it a side, than are on the side of, you know, uh, of, of darkness and evil.

[01:21:45] Dmitri Leonov: I, I'm very curious what's gonna happen because, uh, there's been a lot of prophecies of new Earth, right?

[01:21:51] Dmitri Leonov: And all the good things happening. At the same time, what, what seems to be happening is there's this, um, bifurcation, right? So the world is splitting into two, [01:22:00] uh, p- uh, positive and negative, for the lack of a better word, and I think the... there's the, the split is becoming actually almost bigger in some, some levels.

[01:22:09] Dmitri Leonov: I don't know. Some-

[01:22:10] Luke Storey: Yeah ...

[01:22:10] Dmitri Leonov: uh.

[01:22:11] Luke Storey: Yeah.

[01:22:12] Dmitri Leonov: Yeah.

[01:22:12] Luke Storey: Yeah, I agree. I mean, it's cool. It's a great time to be alive- Yeah ... if, if you look at the positive side of it, you know?

[01:22:18] Dmitri Leonov: Yeah.

[01:22:19] Luke Storey: Uh, which is difficult to do sometimes because the, the negative side of it is so much louder.

[01:22:24] Dmitri Leonov: Yeah.

[01:22:24] Luke Storey: Right? It's like

[01:22:25] Dmitri Leonov: Yeah. Well, but so, okay, so and this is interesting, right?

[01:22:27] Dmitri Leonov: So this is what... In order for us to have the life we want, we need the alignment between the mental and emotional, right? Heart and brain. Uh, unfortunately for us, uh, fear is, uh, clo- it, it's much easier to be in fear and to have the mental and emo- emotional aligned. It's much harder to be in, in a state of love and have that alignment because we're just...

[01:22:53] Dmitri Leonov: You know, it's easy to... And this is another thing. So, um, as far as resonance and being in the right frequency, there's only, [01:23:00] there's only one resonant frequency, and there's an infinite amount of others. So it's pretty hard to be aligned, and it's very easy to come out of alignment.

[01:23:09] Luke Storey: Yeah.

[01:23:10] Dmitri Leonov: And, and hard to come back into it, right?

[01:23:12] Dmitri Leonov: Yeah. And, and so, and so I would highly encourage you to do whatever you can to s- to not look at negative news because, again, you don't control it. Um, and it's... An- another, uh, way of thinking I like is, um, you don't wanna be against something because anytime you're fighting something, you're actually adding to the, to, to its

[01:23:32] Luke Storey: energy.

[01:23:32] Luke Storey: Giving it energy. Yeah, 100%. I like to say, "Don't fight the darkness, make the light brighter."

[01:23:38] Dmitri Leonov: Yeah, exactly.

[01:23:39] Luke Storey: All right, last question. Who have been three teachers or teachings that have influenced who you are and what you do in the world today?

[01:23:50] Dmitri Leonov: Oof. Okay. Um, I would say David Deida.

[01:23:54] Luke Storey: Oh, wow. Is this one of them?

[01:23:55] Luke Storey: Yeah, it's funny. The, the couple that used to own this house, it was [01:24:00] David Deida. No. Uh, no, he, he was a, you know, like a, a longtime student of David Deida and, you know, did teaching around that. Uh, which I know because after we moved in here, we would get his mail, you know, sometimes be- th- they hadn't updated or whatever, and it was, like, all of this kind of work, like David Deida work.

[01:24:19] Luke Storey: So yeah, it was funny.

[01:24:20] Dmitri Leonov: So it's a heal- it was already healthy energy, but even-

[01:24:22] Luke Storey: Yeah, yeah ... even better. There was good polarity energy i- in the home before we moved in, you know? Yeah.

[01:24:27] Dmitri Leonov: Nice. Um, okay. Then, um... Okay, I would say, uh, this is gonna be funny, uh, myself, uh, as a mistake maker. So making mistakes was a really good way to learn.

[01:24:45] Luke Storey: That's a good one, dude. We're how many episodes do we have now, Jared? Okay, 670 of these conversations, no one has given me that answer. That might be my favorite yet.

[01:24:59] Dmitri Leonov: Thank you.

[01:24:59] Luke Storey: I'm gonna, [01:25:00] I'm gonna steal that one. All the, all the, the dumber iterations of myself in the past-

[01:25:05] Dmitri Leonov: Yeah, yeah. Thank you ...

[01:25:06] Luke Storey: that led me to being the wise master that I am.

[01:25:09] Luke Storey: Yes.

[01:25:10] Dmitri Leonov: Exactly.

[01:25:10] Luke Storey: Thank you, former selves.

[01:25:12] Dmitri Leonov: Yeah. Yeah.

[01:25:13] Luke Storey: For all of your egregious missteps. All right, who's your third?

[01:25:18] Dmitri Leonov: Okay, this might sound n- now it's, like, a little, um, um, secondary to what I said. Uh, I, I wanna say my future self, but that doesn't really, uh, make sense. Okay, I'll say it is my higher self. So whenever I Connect, and, uh, and again, it's not, it's not easy.

[01:25:40] Dmitri Leonov: Like, um, I have ADHD, and it's kind of hard to, like, sit down and meditate. So yeah, uh, actually, it's not even my higher self. It's the, we all have the s- the same higher self. So tuning into it, uh, being sensitive enough to unders- to get the signs, what it's trying to say, and also acting on it in the moment is [01:26:00] also...

[01:26:00] Dmitri Leonov: That's, that's the hard part. Um, yeah, so I guess God is my...

[01:26:08] Luke Storey: I mean, that is the master teacher. The, the big man. Capital T. I'll accept that as an answer. I mean, really, that should be the one answer for everyone if we were, if we're really honest, you know, 'cause God's the one working through all these different books and philosophies and- Yeah

[01:26:23] Luke Storey: teachers and teachings. Yeah. I mean, it's, like, all coming from somewhere, right? Right. As you said, we don't have any original ideas, right? It's like, boom, there's a muse that's delivering everything we need all the time if we listen. All right, Dmitri. D-M-I-T-R-I. Dmitri. What kind of name is that?

[01:26:44] Dmitri Leonov: It's Russian. Oh, okay.

[01:26:44] Dmitri Leonov: Uh, so it's, the original pronunciation is Dmitri. Dmitri. So there, there's no I between the D and the M.

[01:26:50] Luke Storey: Ah. Dmi- Dmitri.

[01:26:52] Dmitri Leonov: Yeah.

[01:26:52] Luke Storey: I'm part Russian too, you know?

[01:26:53] Dmitri Leonov: Oh, really?

[01:26:54] Luke Storey: It's funny that you're, uh, R- Russian, you know, because, uh, over the years, I've noticed Russians and [01:27:00] Germans have always been way ahead in, in this kind of medicine.

[01:27:04] Dmitri Leonov: Yes.

[01:27:04] Luke Storey: Like, back when I got into it, um, you know, there was these giant biofeedback machines. Mm-hmm. And, and the instructions are, you know, the labels will always be in actually more in Russian than German even. I would say, if I had to pick one, I would say Russia, for some reason, seems to be, like, way ahead of the US in this realm.

[01:27:22] Dmitri Leonov: Uh, so it's all of the old, uh, KGB, like ex-KGB technology that's, they've been doing on the athletes, on the space-

[01:27:29] Luke Storey: Yeah, yeah ...

[01:27:30] Dmitri Leonov: astronauts, and now it's like, I mean, some of the tech is 30, 40 years old-

[01:27:34] Luke Storey: Right ...

[01:27:34] Dmitri Leonov: and it's now coming to,

[01:27:35] Luke Storey: like- But we think of it as this kind of hippy-dippy stuff. Yeah. And it's like, no, this is, the, these guys were, you know...

[01:27:40] Luke Storey: If you, if you meet any Russians especially older ones, they can be quite serious. You know what I'm saying? I lived in neighborhoods in LA where there was a lot of Russians, and they, you know, they weren't particularly friendly. No. Definitely weren't, like, airy-fairy flower people, you know? All business.

[01:27:55] Dmitri Leonov: Very true. Straight to the

[01:27:56] Luke Storey: point. Very straightforward, you know? All right, dude. Well, thanks again for [01:28:00] joining me.

[01:28:00] Dmitri Leonov: Thank you for having me.

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