[00:00:00] Mario: When you look at it, our life is water. 99% of our molecules are water. So this is the most fundamental level of our existence, purely physically. So the structure of that 99%, the state in which this 99% exists determines the quality of our lives And our research clearly showed that when you change water, your whole biology follows. This is Mario Brainovic, and you are listening to the Life Stylist Podcast. 

Luke: All right, where are my water fanatics at? This is Episode 478 with Mario Brainovic. It's called Beyond Hydration: Structured Water to Heal People, Animals, Plants, and Soil. You'll find show notes, links, and transcripts at lukestorey.com/mario.

The guy you're about to hear from. Mario Brainovic is an entrepreneur, researcher, and a visionary in the field of health and wellness. For years, he ran a successful international advertising agency and a production house, but he was always very passionate about health and wellness, and about finding natural ways to heal, regenerate, and restore the delicate balance between body, mind, and spirit.

This led him to establish a natural pharmaceutical company that successfully helped many people for many years. And after a while, he became very passionate about water, much like yours truly. Realizing its extraordinary significance, he established New Earth Technologies, a company that offers the miracle of Aǹalemma coherent water to the world.

 If you follow me on social media such as Instagram, by the way, you can find me there at @lukestorey. Follow me now for all the fun and games I'm up to on that account. You probably know that I'm obsessed with water, and specifically, coherent or structured water. And one of my favorite ways to do this about which you're going to learn a shit ton in the upcoming conversation today, is using this thing called the Aǹalemma wand. And the folks over at Aǹalemma, Mario and his team, have offered you guys a 5% discount. So the code is LUKE5, and the website is coherent-water.com. And we'll also throw that link in the show notes for this episode.

All right, here are a few of the things we talk about with Mario today. Why he's adamant about putting your heart and purpose before money; how Mario first got interested in water quality, the work of Veda Austin and Dr. Emoto; what happens to water when it gets exposed to EMF; why biophotons matter to the quality of water, and how they're measured; why it takes an entire year to make the mother water for Aǹalemma's products; why the Aǹalemma wand uses quartz instead of glass; using the wand to structure bath water. Actually used it to structure the water in my ice bath before this conversation, so we talk a bit about that.

Whether it's best to install the whole house Aǹalemma unit before or after a water filtration system; improving plant health and agricultural productivity with coherent water; how Aǹalemma water actually increases bacterial diversity in soil; how they measured a 300% increase in energy in plants treated with coherent water; how a regenerative farm could structure all of its irrigation and livestock water; what's next for Mario and his company; and how a regenerative farm could structure all of its irrigation and livestock water.

So Mario's mission, you guys, is not just to provide awesome drinking water for us folks here on earth, but also, you're not going to believe this, he wants to eventually structure all the water on the planet. And after talking to him, I think he might just be able to do it. And if you're still hungry for more info after this conversation with Mario, go back and check out Episode 431 with his partners, Eric and Dolf from Aǹalemma. And that will of course also be linked in the show notes. Okay, that's it. We are prepped. We are ready for takeoff. Let's hit it with Mario Brainovic.

Mario, let's get down and dirty and talk about the magic of water here, my friend.

[00:04:11] Mario: Thank you so much for having me, Luke, at first. I'm a huge fan of your work, and I'm thrilled to be here.

[00:04:16] Luke: Awesome, man. Thank you so much. So I want to start out by asking you about a vision that you had in meditation to create a 100% natural health related business. I always find it interesting when people-- like me, my best ideas usually come in meditation. So I'm curious how that went down for you.

[00:04:38] Mario: Yeah, it was really, really remarkable. I, uh, it was, uh, a long time ago already. So I had a pretty, uh, successful business before that. But I always was very passionate about health and wellness, and I always knew that our bodies have this incredible innate intelligence.

They know how to repair itself. But I was always researching and trying to find ways to not improve, but to help that process in a powerful way. So I wasn't in that part of thing. I was in something completely different. But I, uh, meditated on what should I do? Should I go into maybe supplements, or should I go into some technology or something that will help people heal or get better? And I actually entered into this incredible bliss state, which I lost it for half an hour. And I was just super happy, and connected, and everything.

And to be honest, I just left it there and went on with my life. And not three weeks later, I actually bumped into and got introduced to a person who already had an amazing product that really helped and could help a lot of people. But they didn't have the skills. They didn't know how to scale it. They didn't have this know-how, how to do it. So I was thrilled how the universe worked, and I jumped to the opportunity. And when I entered into this company, I increased the sale exponentially because I came from advertising world. I owned my, um, advertising agency and a production house, and I increased the sales of that product by 900% in three months.

[00:06:34] Luke: Damn. I need to hire you.

[00:06:37] Mario: It was really spectacular. And then this was just an opening. I was so inspired by the whole thing because this thing really helped people. Then I started to gather all the things that truly helped people, and through it, I helped thousands of people. And this was an incredibly gratifying experience because when you change people lives, that's something huge. I mean, you cannot live in a better way. You cannot serve in a better way when you make people feel better.

I mean, this is exactly what you're doing, so you know exactly what I'm talking about. So after a while-- I did this for, I don't know, eight, nine years, something like that, then I decided that it was time to move on because I really brought it to very high level, and I sold the whole company to Walgreens.

And then I was thinking, okay, if I'm ever going to involve myself in something again, it would really need to be for the highest good of all in terms of the health of plants, animals, people, environment, so that it really has a planetary impact. Something that truly is for the highest good of everything and everyone in exactly the same way how the universe works.

I was very soon after that introduced to Dr. Eric Eric Laarakker and Dolf Zantinge, who are the founders of Aǹalemma Water. And very soon into the introduction, I could not only sense, but see there is something extraordinarily amazing about this water. And since I did many years of having this natural pharmaceutical company, I did many, uh, clinical trials and did many things there, I had a lot of experience in that particular area. 

So I went deep into human studies with Aǹalemma water. So did the double-blind placebo-controlled studies and everything just to prove that something biologically remarkable happens when people drink this water. But not just people. We have animals. We have plants, and the whole environmental impact of this water is extraordinary. Agricultural impact of this water is extraordinary. So we're going to pass through those details because this--

[00:08:57] Luke: Awesome. 

[00:08:58] Mario: Truly is, uh, something spectacular. And to be honest, I am deeply grateful to be part of this project. I feel, and in all of us, in our company, we feel that we are serving this water. It's not the other way around. Because when you feel, see, and witness, we really had more than several oh my god, moments in our studies. And when you witness this, you cannot feel that you own it, if you know what I mean. You feel that you are a part of something amazing that's happening, and you just want to do your very best to get it out  there.

[00:09:38] Luke: I love your passion, and I love your value system. It took me some time in life, um, in my prior careers, which were creative and wonderful in their own unique ways, but, um, after some time, I actually just sold a business too, uh, last week. So congratulations on yours.

[00:09:59] Mario: Congratulations. 

[00:10:00] Luke: I didn't sell mine to Walgreens, so I'm probably not sitting as pretty as you were, but got it done. But what I realized is there were, I don't know, it's almost the way that we're brought up in school and just the way Western culture, I don't want to say the culture indoctrinates you, but for lack of a better term, it's just what we're led to believe. Speaking by your accent, I'm guessing you're not from New Jersey, uh, or America, anywhere, but for us here, it's like, get an education so you can go out and make money.

I mean, that's like the overarching theme. And it took me until I was probably in my late 30s until I realized doing a career for money only is very limiting in terms of the satisfaction that, uh, one can derive from it. And so you're absolutely right. The work that I do now, when I get paid money to do what I do now, I'm still shocked.

It's like, this is actually a job, talking to people like you, doing the other work that I do, speaking on stage, writing my book, things that I'm working on. It's like, they're mostly things I would do for free, apart from the administrative stuff that for anyone, is a drag that has to go into supporting the business part of it. But the actual work and the vision is solely based on helping people. And that's what you discovered. So I think there's a really important lesson there above and beyond water

[00:11:28] Mario: I definitely agree with you. Definitely. 

[00:11:31] Luke: For all of us to find something that feels good in your heart. I mean, that's why I feel so grateful. I get messages just like you from people that are-- I mean, opening my Instagram DMs today, I don't know how many there were. I don't want to exaggerate. There were probably four or five messages this morning that said something to the effect of, wow, thank you so much. Your content has really impacted my life, and I had a question about this or that.

It's usually how it goes. And that's all day, every day. And those are only the people that take the time to actually say that. There's probably thousands of people listening that go, oh, this is really cool, and it has some positive impact on them, and they're not for whatever reason, um, inspired to let me know. So, uh, I love that, um, that you share that value, and you've discovered really the golden key to life, which is doing something vocationally that also fuels your heart and gives you a sense of purpose. 

Um, but I wanted to point out one other thing about that. Uh, when I interviewed, um, let me see, it was Episode 431, Eric and Dolf, and I didn't get in too much into their personal life, but I sensed that they had money from something else. They weren't two broke guys in their upper middle ages that were like, ooh, we're going to cash in on this water thing we discovered. It seemed like it was more of a passion project, and that helped me buy into the legitimacy of the Aǹalemma products because they really are otherworldly and hard to believe.

And so when something's hard to believe, you're always looking for the sales angle in there. Like, all right, who's in this for the money? And like you, it didn't seem like either of them were that concerned about the money. They're more concerned about the impact. Was my assessment correct? 

[00:13:20] Mario: Most definitely. I have to tell you a story how they got involved because it's really an amazing story. They actually were very worried where the world was going. They actually wanted to invest in finding-- it's going to sound crazy, but they wanted to find the secret to life. What can we change in our fundamental understanding of the world? They didn't even go for product or anything. It was just, okay, we need to find something that would help the world. That's where it all started. And to be honest, I can tell you one thing.

For me, as well, when I got introduced with Dolf and Eric, I actually funded. I wasn't even a part of it. I just funded one study just because I believed in this. I believed in this so much that this could really change people's lives. And then I-- because I have this very particular skillset set, I got involved to help the whole project. And it really is just like you mentioned. When you do something that you would do for free, that's the way to live.

[00:14:33] Luke: Right.

[00:14:34] Mario: You mentioned this, uh, just a minute before. This is what I love. When you do something that anyhow you would do it for free, it doesn't matter, then you know that you're doing-- this is a dharmic way of living. You know that you are, uh, living from your heart, so to speak. And then everything falls together.

[00:14:51] Luke: Well, it's funny. Totally. Yeah, it's beautiful. We're diverting here, but I think there's some real value in this for people, even if they're listening to this because they want to learn about water. Because I've done so many podcasts on water, I'm obsessed with it, and I could talk about it forever, but to the point of doing something for free, when I first started my podcast, which in a month, it'll be eight years ago, I started reaching out to people, sending emails, going to events, and asking people, uh, to be on my podcast as guests. I was shocked that people were willing to sit down and talk to me for sometimes two or three hours.

And these were people, uh, for whom their consulting fees were probably hundreds, if not thousands of dollars per hour. So I remember in the beginning going-- and I wasn't paying myself. In the beginning, it was just all for free, and I funded it myself. But I remember thinking, I would pay this person 500 bucks to sit down and talk to them for an hour, and then eventually I'm actually getting paid to sit down and talk to them.

It's like, not only would I do it for free, in many cases, I feel like I would actually come out of pocket just to be able to spend time with that person and learn from them. So it's really funny when you put your passion and your heart and just caring about humanity first. The universe opens its arms and starts to avail you with all of these incredible relationships and other opportunities.

So that's very cool. Um, okay, you met the guys, you met the founders, you got involved with the company, uh, is that the first point at which you got interested in the bigger picture and the larger conversation around water? Or was water something in your own health journey that you already were learning about and conscious of and had some degree of passion for?

[00:16:40] Mario: To be honest, no. That was the first moment when my eyes opened. Up until that moment, this is now a couple of years, uh, ago, but up until that moment, I didn't realize what water is. I didn't realize how extraordinarily important it is for our overall health and wellness. I mean, when you look at it, our life is water. 99% of our molecules are water. So this is the most fundamental level of our existence, purely physically. So the structure of that 99%, the state in which this 99% exists determines the quality of our lives to the dot. And our research clearly showed that when you change water, your whole biology follows. 

So this was very eye-opening for me. I realized that there are whole worlds hidden in water. I'm going not going to say many, there are several scientists that were playing with water in various ways. They were running low voltage through water while fish were inside. And actually, just by changing, uh, that, the genetic structure of those fish started to change. So when you change water, everything starts changing. People understand when you eat something, it becomes your heart. It becomes your muscle. It becomes your skin. It becomes your bone.

But with water is actually much, much deeper. And we are drinking two liters to three liters of water every day. We are replacing this 99% in our body constantly. And when you're replacing it with the way water was intended to be, you're upgrading your biology more than significantly.

[00:18:46] Luke: Amen. 

[00:18:47] Mario: Yeah. This is exactly what all of our research clearly proved. So we are actually electromagnetic in nature when you look at it. And I always remember, uh, Nicola Tesla, famous, uh, scientist said, if you want to know the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency, and vibration. And water is a broadband absorber, receiver, transmitter, and storer of energy, frequency, and vibration. And it's therefore essential. 

[00:19:18] Luke: So good. 

[00:19:19] Mario: And when you-- this is what Eric and Dolf figured out. They zeroed in into water. When they started changing the water, uh, in early days, they had this huge, uh, greenhouse, and they did all of these experiments on plants. And they realized when they changed water, biophoton emissions changed dramatically. So when you water, for instance, tomatoes-- we did this experiment where every single living thing exudes light. And you need to have very specific equipment that is very sensitive and can actually capture every single biophoton. The more biophotons any biological system exudes, the more vitality it has.

So we actually compared, uh, tomatoes' water with regular water and tomatoes' water with Aǹalemma water. And tomatoes' water with Aǹalemma water exudes 60% more light. They have 60% more vitality. Usually, people always go to the chemical side of things, but we are talking about energetics. This is the most fundamental level of our existence. And when you change that, everything else changes.

[00:20:32] Luke: Oh man. That's so cool. Yeah. Thinking about water that's structured, uh, or living water, coherent water, which I'll have you define in a moment, I think many people listening will already be aware with that terminology, but I think of water in its natural state, not as a wet, clear liquid that we call H₂O, but a liquid crystalline carrier of information.

[00:20:57] Mario: Exactly.

[00:20:58] Luke: When you start to change the relationship with water and how you understand water, then it's interactions within our bodies and within plant life and animal life, um, starts to take on a whole different meeting and becomes much more interesting. And you mentioned, um, some of the researchers. I think many people by now are aware of, uh, Dr. Masaru Emoto, uh, the famous book, Hidden Messages in Water. 

And, uh, I encourage people to check that out, and we'll put that in the show notes, which by the way will be lukestorey.com/mario. And, uh, I'll mention that again elsewhere. But Dr. Emoto's work super cool. We've also had on the podcast, um, well, he died before we could have him on the podcast, but I did feature, uh, Dr. Gerald Pollack, who discovered the fourth phase of water or exclusion zone water. Fascinating guy. Like you, just committed to doing good in the world, and using his laboratory in Washington to discover unbelievable things that we didn't know about the nature of water and the way they interact with biology.

Uh, but I think my favorite of all, and I'm sure you're familiar with her to some degree, is Veda Austin, who was on the show. And I mean, I've done, uh, 500 or so interviews at this point and I've talked to some brilliant, fascinating, lovely people like yourself, and many others. I got to say, if you put a gun in my head and said, give me your top five podcasts out of the 500, Veda Austin would definitely be in the top five, if not like number one or two.

Uh, the conversation we had around water was so enlightening and expansive and just absolutely mind-blowing. Um, in fact, I should go back and listen to it again. I just remember sitting with her and I was just mesmerized by her understanding of water in the research she does, um, which totally flies in the face against the traditional scientific analysis of water, that it's this molecule in that molecule, and it's a wet, clear liquid that hydrates things.

It's like the studies she's done where she freezes water, for example, and I'll encourage people to go through the show notes and find that episode, but I mean, so many of them are just incredibly fascinating. But the one that really got me, I think, just because I'm an old school rock and roller from back in the day, is, well, what she does is she takes these Petri dishes and she pours whatever the source water happens to be, all kinds of different sources, and then she'll, uh, write something next to the water or say something to the water, etc.

Very much akin to Dr. Emoto's work, and then freezes the water for about four minutes, pours off the excess liquid part of the water. And what she's left with is a Petri dish, uh, of an ice crystal essentially, or ice crystals. And the one that really got me is one that looks like a staircase. And she explained to me that how that was created was by placing the liquid water in a Petri dish, putting Led Zeppelin's Stairway to Heaven on her music player, and then freezing the water for four minutes, gets it out, and the water goes, oh, we know that song. That's a stairway. 

I mean, you can't refute the magic in that. You would have to be an extremely intellectually limited and skeptical person to not. And that's just one of literally thousands that she's done. So through conversations like that and Gerald Pollack and reading the work of Dr. Emoto, uh, my relationship with water, which has always been primary since I was a little kid, maybe it's because I'm a Scorpio. I'm a water sign. I don't know. But I want to be near and interacting with water all the time. When I go on road trips and I'm watching my GPS map, takes everything I have to not pull over when I see a body of water because I want to go get in it or at least look at it.

I'm just obsessed with water. I do all kinds of different tricks with it, and stuff like that. Uh, but even with the knowledge I had about water after those years, and just my innate passion for and about water, that interview with Veda Austin, I knew water was a carrier of information. And so I knew that it had a certain intelligence, but the way she works with water in her research indicates that water not only carries information, you could input a crystal with some frequencies or something like that, as you described earlier, but that water is actually living to the point that it communicates with us and has its own innate intelligence.

And again, many people listening go, oh, that sounds ridiculous, but I'm telling you, listen to that podcast. Look at her work. Try to explain that with your rational mind. It's impossible. There's something going on that is just beyond our linear comprehension. It truly is the magic of consciousness.

And so for me, after all of these years, it's just like, God, I thought I was passionate about water before. And then you guys come along, and by the way, I'm sure you're aware, but those listening, if you go on the Aǹalemma Instagram, no, I'm sorry, it's on Veda Austin's Instagram, she did, uh, a photograph after water that was treated with the Aǹalemma wand. And of course, it's this miraculously beautiful crystalline structure, uh, that was created. 

It's just fascinating. But I'm now even more obsessed with water than I ever happened before because you guys created something that, and we're going to go into this deeply, and of course there's a lot more in the first episode I did with your two partners, but you guys created a way to structure water or make water coherent. And there are a lot of, uh, devices around that can do that. Natural Action is a great company. Um, the Leela, uh, quantum blocs can do that. The Soma Vedic.

I mean, I've been experimenting with all kinds of stuff, and I love all of those, but what's interesting about what you guys have done is that you've been able to prove that after water is structured with the Aǹalemma products, that it remains that way for at least five years despite interference that would make other waters become incoherent again. So that, to me is like, what the-- I don't want to swear too much on my show, but what the f are you guys up to?

It's like, that's just insane to me. So having said all that, and I apologize for my rant. I want to make sure I give you space to share all of your wisdom and expertise here, but for those that don't know what we're talking about, if they just tuned into this podcast for the first time and haven't heard my other dozen or so shows on water, maybe give us a simple breakdown ofthe difference between a chaotic or unstructured water versus structured and coherent water.

And then we'll just go from there. We'll go into how the Aǹalemma products work. And then I really want to cover all of the research because since our last conversation, you guys have done tons of very legitimate studies, and that's really exciting to me, even though I already know it works. The studies are important so that people know if I'm going to spend 180 bucks or whatever on this wand, I really want to know that it works. So let's start with coherent or structured water.

[00:28:19] Mario: Awesome. So we collected water samples from all over the places, and we found out that, uh, water currently exists in what we call chaotic state. So what does that mean? That, um, H₂O molecules in drinking water, they behave chaotically. They crash into each other constantly. But since all of this happens on an atomic level, nobody really is even aware of that. Nobody pays attention to it. 

There is a way to bring order back into that chaos. This is what coherent water is. You mentioned several other, uh, technologies that creates some form of coherence, and almost every single one of them actually does that. So the water enters into some form of coherent state. But in our experience, we really tested a lot. Water stays in this coherent state between couple of minutes and day and a half tops. Then water goes back into the chaos. We are using this very special, um, let's call it method that has five different stages, and it lasts one whole year. When water passes this fifth stage, it doesn't go back to chaos at any moment.

And we really tried to push it out of its state of coherence. We radiated it. We did all kinds of things to it, but it always held its structure. Water we just once treated with Aǹalemma, we tested it now for five consecutive years. Every single year, we're just going to add another because we want to stick by the hardcore science.

But having observed what we've observed, it'll not lose its state of coherence. This stability creates resilience, actually, extraordinary resilience in all biological systems. It's, uh, interesting that when we did our plant research and tomato research, it's actually progressive. We replanted with seeds, tomatoes, and after three generations, uh, tomatoes almost don't need no pesticides. They become so resilient.

[00:30:32] Luke: Wow. Okay, I'm going to create a model here. Just getting creative, bear with me. You have two mothers. They've each only had, uh, Aǹalemma or structured water their entire life. They each have a baby. One's a boy, one's a girl. They're breastfeeding that baby from structured water. Of course, much of milk is water. There's some fat and other constituents, but the majority of it is water.

And then those two babies only drink structured water their entire life until they're adults. And then they mate, and then they have a baby that's made entirely of 99% molecularly structured water. What would happen? Let's find out. And where you guys are going, I know your world vision is very broad and really brave, that you want to structure the water on the entire planet. And I'm all for that. And that's one of the reasons we're doing, uh, this podcast. So that's my thought experiment, uh, based on your tomato experiment. 

But a question that I have is a geeky one around when you say, okay, we've tested these other, um, devices and they structure the water, but after a day or so, it goes away, and then for five years, you guys have been testing yours to see that it remains coherent even after you've exposed it to all of these disruptive, uh, influences, how do you actually measure the level of coherence in water? What's the mechanism of measurement there?

[00:31:53] Mario: Actually, in the beginning we did near infrared, ultraviolet, visual spectrography, uh, and biophoton. We love biophotons in the beginning because if you change the water and you expose it to a biological system, if biological system starts to exude more light, that means that actual profound change happens.

So it's not a short process. It's always a long process because we want to be 100% sure that it works. So we always tested on biological systems, not just, uh, through observing that the change in the structure of water itself happened, but that it actually has a profound effect on biology.

So up until now, there is no device that you can use on the spot and say, this one is a coherent water. This one isn't. I mean, of course, people can do taste tests immediately. You see the difference, but we are sticking to hardcore science. So the only way, the way that we are using is that we are testing it on biological systems to see what actually happens there. Then we know if something has--

Biophoton research is very good there because you can immediately see after, rather a short period of time, you could see the change. If it starts to exude more light, more biophotons, something changed. Yeah. We can actually, uh, make, um, first entrance into the human studies that we did because we wanted to see what's the correlation between, uh, vitality of plants and vitality of humans.

And since biophoton is very much connected to the energy, mitochondrial energy, this is where we wanted to venture. So we did a double-blind placebo-controlled study where we measured ATP levels in humans. So adenosine triphosphate, the primary energy currency of the cell, which is directly responsible for powering the majority of cellular processes in our body, including muscle contraction, neuro impulse transmission, biochemical reactions, every heartbeat, every breath depends on ATP.

And, uh, scientists now agree that decrease in the mitochondrial function is the key cause of cellular aging. So we wanted to see if the mitochondrial function will increase when people drink this water. So we employed luciferase, which is an enzyme that catalyzes light production in bioluminescent organisms, and due to its extraordinary sensitivity, you can actually measure ATP levels in humans.

So we did a first test where we measured ATP levels in people. It was double-blind placebo-controlled study. And then people drank a liter and a half of Aǹalemma water for two months without changing anything else in their world. So didn't change their diets. They didn't change their exercise regime. Everything else stayed the same. And then we did the second test. And, uh, the results were that we had more than significant increase. We had 20% increase in overall mitochondrial energy of the body over the placebo. When you count in the placebo, that's 26%.

So just by drinking the water, the entire mitochondrial energy of your body increased by 26%. So if you give your body just couple of percent, it will definitely do something with it. And we are talking about real energy, not-- so this clearly showed that the ability of mitochondria to convert fats and sugar, which are primary fuel into energy increased exponentially.

[00:35:39] Luke: That's insane, dude. I mean, imagine if you hadn't done that study. I always think of marketing because I work with all these brands, and some of them are great at marketing and some of them are less than great. The ones that are great always have research to back up their claims. But imagine if you had no research to back that up and you're like, hey-- I have my wand right here, actually. I'll show it for those watching the video. This is the, um, quartz wand filled with mother water, and we'll learn what that is in a moment. It's got this little steel, um, paste that it goes into--

 For those listening, it looks basically like a, I don't know, a sharpie. It's about that big, like a big pen. But imagine marketing this and you're like, yeah, uh, we think if you just take this and stir your water every day, that you'll have a 26% increase in mitochondrial function and ATP production. I mean, that would sound like such bullshit if you guys didn't actually-- you know what I mean? Who would believe that?

[00:36:35] Mario: Yeah. But this is exactly why we're investing in science because we understand that it will look crazy. People who don't understand the importance of water, who don't understand that this is the essential, the very fundament of life, it's farfetched. But that's why we wanted to do this so that everybody can know and will know that if you use this water, this effect will happen. So I agree with you. It would be ridiculous to even mention.

[00:37:08] Luke: I mean, I can just see people on Twitter attacking. 

[00:37:12] Mario: Yeah.

[00:37:12] Luke: Twitter's the most toxic of all the social media platforms. I try to use it with, uh, some discipline because it's so negative. But that's the thing. Someone will make a claim on there, and then you have all these trolls that come on and claim that it's bullshit. But me personally, with all this stuff, I go half intuition, and that intuition is also based on my level of trust in the integrity of whoever the inventor or purveyor of a particular product or service is. And I have a pretty decent bullshit meter because I used to be one, uh, when I was younger. I have grown out of that, thankfully, at least 99%, uh, on a good day.

But there's also a part of me that's like, okay, I trust this person, but even if that person is Integris and they're not lying intentionally, they could also just be hopefully ignorant and mistaken. Well, we think it does this, and we're all excited, but can you actually show that? And so I'm, I guess, mostly based on intuition, gut feeling, and just a vibe of something.

But that's not enough. I also want to see, okay, I think I'm feeling this, but placebo is so powerful within myself. I want to see it, but I also want to go on their website and see that they've put some of that profit they're hopefully making into research. And for anyone listening that has a brand in wellness, um, I know not everyone's, uh, profit margins allow for expensive studies.

Um, sounds like you guys have been able to foot the bill for those. They're not cheap if you do them right. But I just want to press upon people how important it is as a purveyor of a product or service to be able to show some data, some science, that it's actually working. And also just as a consumer, something that I always do is I look right on the website and I'm hoping there's a tab that says, not just buy here, buy here, that there's add to cart, add to cart.

What I want to see is a tab that says research and science, so I can get in there. And I'm not terribly intellectual, but I can make my way around some studies and see if there's something legitimate there or not. Um, so kudos to you guys for actually spending the money, the time, and effort to do that because it's really important.

If your ultimate cause is restructuring and loving the entire ecosystem of water on the planet, then that's a very worthy cause that deserves research. As you scale what you're doing, which I'd love to talk about it a little later, I have that in my notes, I mean, if you're going to get large agricultural operations on board with this, they're definitely going to want to see some data, if they're going to install a $500,000 system on a massive agricultural operation or something like that.

[00:40:04] Mario: This is exactly what we want to do. That's why we're investing in double-blind placebo-controlled studies. And just so you know, even before we launched, people usually spend a year or two years tops before they launched something. We've invested15 years in research before we even templated we are going to go out. Because we were, uh, weird in that way, to be honest. We really want to stand behind what we say, and then we decided, okay, now it's the time, and we didn't stop there. Uh, just so you know, we are investing on so many levels. If we mention agriculture study, now we are doing a huge agriculture study.

[00:40:54] Luke: This is exciting. 

[00:40:55] Mario: We want to change the whole agriculture game because it needs to change. The world is really in a bad spot, uh, when we talk about agriculture. Just when you-- we are going to talk about glyphosate and the whole thing a bit later, but when you look at, uh, nutrient density, spinach, 10 years ago had 80% more nutrients than spinach today.

[00:41:21] Luke: Only 10 years ago?

[00:41:23] Mario: That's appalling.

[00:41:24] Luke: That's crazy. I've heard stats like that, but it's like, oh, a 100 years ago a carrot had this much-- 

[00:41:30] Mario: No. That's why I'm saying-- 

[00:41:31] Luke: It's still getting worse? God.

[00:41:33] Mario: It really is not good in that particular way. So just to say, a research that we did a couple of years back because we knew that we need to revitalize the soil. The soil is extraordinarily important, and we are polluting our soil and killing the microbiome of soil on such rampant rate that it's really becoming critical all over the planet. So anyhow, uh, what we did is that we took completely destroyed piece of land by glyphosate, by all kinds of toxins. So it's completely infertile. This land cannot bear anything. And we watered one part of it with regular water and one part with Aǹalemma water. 

And the part that was watered with Aǹalemma water as a control, basically nothing happened. Everything, uh, stayed the same but the part that was watered within Aǹalemma water, there was a huge explosion in the biodiversity of the microbiome. So much so that the bacteria in the soil started to suck CO2 out of the atmosphere into the soil where it actually belongs.

Because CO2 is the fuel for plants. They actually inhale,  uh, CO2, and they exhale oxygen in the whole process of things. But, uh, the land became fertile in a very short period of time. But it doesn't stop there. Uh, usually when the rain fallson the soil, the minerals go into deeper layers. But when you watered the soil with Aǹalemma, that depleted soil, there was a huge retainment of the minerals in the top layer where land can actually get the nutrients inside the plant. 

[00:43:24] Luke: What? 

[00:43:24] Mario: So that was one of our-- 

[00:43:25] Luke: Oh my God.

[00:43:27] Mario: Mind-exploding moments in our research, just by watering the destroyed, basically infertile. And we are not talking regular. Infertile. Dead land. We revitalized it in a very short period of time. We are not talking about, okay, you need to water for a year. No, this all happened in very short period of time, which tells us that there's this extraordinary intelligence in nature everywhere. It just waits for us to give it a hand, so to speak, and it vitalizes immediately.

So this water really has a profound effect on it. That's why I'm saying we are the ones serving it. Our whole thing is, I'm, uh, Dolf and Eric probably mentioned this in the last podcast. Our whole mission statement is to make all of the bodies of water on this planet coherent again. We already developed this eco-friendly technology that we want to install in the, uh, wells of the biggest rivers because we know that life down the stream would thrive. All of that water would end up in the ocean, then the oceans would become coherent.

[00:44:44] Luke: Oh my God, dude. I love that you think big like that. That's the way I think. And I might not be able to see some of these things that I think of and you think of,they might not come to fruition during my lifetime this time, but if I manage to have a couple kids, it might happen in their lifetime.

[00:45:02] Mario: But you know what? I'm confident, Luke. I'm confident that this will happen in our lifetime.

[00:45:09] Luke: Okay, good. I'm going to hold that then.

[00:45:11] Mario: Because, uh, it's time. The world is changing. However, it looks on the outside, I truly believe that Mother Earth is the hidden voice of this particular project. I believe there is this intelligence of life that is running the show, so to speak. And however grim things look on the outside, I think that everything is happening the way it should. And if you do your thing, and I do mine, we are just a part of this symphony happening. And I truly believe that's why we want to bring it to the governmental level so the governments will want to get involved.

Just like I mentioned, there is a huge issue, uh, especially in America, uh, and the rest of the world, of course, with, uh, land stop being fertile. It just cannot deliver the quality of food necessary. And this is such a simple way to revitalize the soil so that you make it nutrient-dense, that the food becomes nutrient-dense, but not only nutrient-dense, we're talking about vitality. We're talking about the energy level of the fruit, which exudes a light in exponentially higher level than with regular water. 

[00:46:30] Luke: Amazing. 

[00:46:31] Mario: So this is our intention, to change the whole agriculture thing. As I mentioned, we're deep now in the rather big agriculture study because we know that we need to increase yield and shelf life because this is what these guys only think about. They think about yield and shelf life. And we know that not only are you going to create fruits and veggies that are going to be packed with vitality, they're also going to increase yield and shelf life.

[00:47:02] Luke: Wow. 

[00:47:03] Mario: Because it has, uh, more vitality, more biophotons, more light in it, it'll will stay fresh longer. And this is something which is extraordinarily observable. And that's how we want to-- this is our intention, how to change the whole agriculture game. And hopefully, all the agriculture giants will, uh, join in, will realize the potential there. And then again, everybody will get the benefit.

[00:47:32] Luke: Man, I love this. It's very timely too. Uh, I've been more focused on helping people improve their spiritual lives and physical health, and working person to person rather than zooming further out and getting involved in environmental issues and things like that. Um, my belief is that raising the consciousness of each individual has the net effect of raising the consciousness of the population. When you have a population with higher consciousness, they make better choices for themselves and for the planet. So I'm a bottom-up environmentalist more so than a top-down.

However, I was just in Costa Rica with an organization that I'm starting to do some work with called Walking Softer, and they have, uh, just purchased a property there. It's a couple thousand acres, and it's, uh, formally a cattle ranch that was not well-maintained. And the land to me looked beautiful, but according to regenerative agricultural, uh, analysis, it's very depleted and really needs some help.

So the first part of that project is to bring the soil back and work on water retention. And as you're talking, I'm like, okay, we need to get an industrial-sized Aǹalemma system in there. I mean, that would be a great test for that because this organization, the people behind it are so committed to doing everything. I mean, just down to the most minute detail, doing it the right way with the health of the soil first in mind, then the animals grazing on the land, the health of those animals, and of course, the health of the plant matter. 

So my question that I'm curious about, I mean, just thinking big here again, so if this wand here, the Aǹalemma wand, the home use one that I've had for, I don't know, a few months now, maybe a year or so, I use it on all of our water. I also use it in my ice bath. I just did that this morning because I just filled it up again, and it might have still been structured because the bottom half of the tank was still structured from the last time I did it, presumably, but I did it again just in preparation for our interview. I've also done my swimming pool with this by hanging it on a string and putting it in the fountain, the recirculating fountain.

I left it there for 48 hours just so it touched as much of the water as possible. But still it's just this one little wand. So if we're talking about a larger scale operation like an agricultural project or a municipal water source where there's a water, uh, processing plant and they want to install what you now have, the whole house unit, we're going to talk about that, what does it look like in terms of scalability? And how big would-- if you had a 2,000-acre ranch that had springs on it and you wanted to treat all of the irrigation water and the water for the livestock, how feasible is it for you guys to create the device or the technology in order to do that? How far out is that, and what does it look like in terms of just its, uh, stature?

[00:50:40] Mario: We are there. 

[00:50:41] Luke: Really?

[00:50:42] Mario: Yeah. We actually did this. All of this time, we knew that if we want to change the world, we need to create something which is scalable. So we already have this large agricultural, uh, models. There is a huge farm of Darjeeling tea. It's a really huge piece of land, and they actually have this irrigation system, and they needed a monster.

[00:51:08] Luke: Okay.

[00:51:09] Mario: So it was a challenge in the beginning because you have this huge water pressure. So, uh, that's why we're engineering, re-engineering to have something which will work 100%, and we actually created it. So now we can use it basically anywhere. Of course, it can be custom- made for any particular system because you have different piping systems, different piping sizes and everything.

But we already have technology that works similarly, like whole house Aǹalemma, but it's much bigger. We just scale it. So we already developed that technology, uh, and it can be employed anywhere. This is our end game to get there, and then everybody will start to farm using this water.

[00:52:01] Luke: Man.

[00:52:01] Mario: And then when you go to regular supermarket, you can buy tomato, or mango, or cucumber and you know that it has this vitality inside. We need to, of course, change the whole, uh, glyphosate and everything because this is a huge issue. Uh, people are 100% aware of what glyphosate does, and that it's actually an antibiotic which kills our microbiome.

Uh, so it's a huge issue. And when people are constantly, uh, using it, and now there is a very recently a study done that 99% of Americans have huge amounts of glyphosate in their urine. So it's a huge issue, and we need to tackle it, but one thing at the time. We know that it's a huge thing. We are doing one thing at the time.

So just by doing this, if agriculture companies, large agriculture companies will start using the water, we are going to definitely have an extraordinarily positive impact on the quality of our foods. That is the next step. Having said this, I would like to make a connection to our next study, uh, that we did on humans. It was a double-blind placebo-controlled study on microbiome.

[00:53:23] Luke: Oh, cool.

[00:53:24] Mario: Like extremists, we like to think of ourselves as we are a single species, but nothing could be further from the truth. We are actually in an entire ecosystem. We're living in symbiosis with trillions of these microorganisms, an equilibrium. This equilibrium between our cells and these microbes is essential to our health. I know that your listeners are very, very aware of that. I mean, when I started going on, getting a deep dive down the rabbit hole into microbiome, my mind was blown, uh, so many times. To realize that there are up to 300 times more microbial genes than human genes is really extraordinary.

These genes are creating enzymes which are dissolving food and getting us nutrients that we wouldn't have any access to otherwise. The connection between micro, uh, the state of our microbiome and basically any area of our health, not just digestive health. Immune health, cardiovascular health, neurological health, mental health, everything is basically directly impacted by the quality of our microbiome.

Not to go into the whole story because it's really fascinating, to be honest, to me. I'm a geek around it because there are so many elements there. Uh, what we did, we measured what is called dysbiosis index of the microbiome. Dysbiosis index measures the degree of deviation within the microbiome, taking into account all the bacterial phyla species and their wing factor.

So, uh, we did double-blind placebo-controlled study, uh, where we first took a "snapshot" of the microbiome, and then, uh, people were drinking, uh, a liter and a half of an Aǹalemma water for two months without changing anything else in their world. And then we took another one. So what we saw is on average, 17% improvement on the dysbiosis index over the placebo. But what's even more interesting, we wanted to see a deep dive into the pathogenic bacteria to see what's going to happen there because this water actually creates equilibrium. And exactly that happened.

Pathogenic bacteria actually went down, and the good bacteria went up. So this equilibrium happened, and this is exactly what we saw in all of our research. Balancing effect happens because everything in nature has its place. All of this pathogenic bacteria, they're extraordinarily important, but we shouldn't have an overgrowth of them. So everything plays a part. But it's just a matter of balance. And this water retains or creates this balance.

[00:56:20] Luke: Wow, that's so interesting. And thinking about what you mentioned about, um, the microbiome within our bodies making it possible for us to assimilate nutrients from the food we eat, as you, I'm sure, know, that's the same thing that happens in soil with the biome of the soil so that plants can then get the nutrients out of the soil, right?

[00:56:42] Mario: Exactly.

[00:56:43] Luke: It's like, these symbiotic relationships are so interesting, and I'm glad that we're starting to think about the symbiosis in nature and getting out of this reductionist mindset that has everything in separation. I mean, up until recently, I thought, okay, we got to kill off all the bad bacteria in the gut. It's like, well, no. It has a place. It's just when it gets out of balance, you have a problem. And I'm sure it's the same way, uh, with soil.

Um, before we carry on, I want to let people know, because they're probably wondering, like, okay, I'm on board. I want to get my hands on one of these things. If you guys go to coherent-water.com, and use the code, LUKE5, you're going to get a 5% discount. That's coherent-water.com. Um, and as people listening might have guessed, uh, by now, I'm a huge fan and absolutely support people getting their hands on one of these things, but I also want to talk about the new development about which I was extremely excited, you mentioned earlier, and that's the whole house unit.

And I have one here. Uh, and it's gorgeous. It's not installed yet, and I'll tell you why, but for people watching on video, your source water goes in one side and the structured water comes out the other side. And this gets mounted next to your water input, um, or water filter in my case. So I had a question around that.

So finally, after living in this house for a year and researching all of these different whole house, uh, water filter systems, and there's so many out there, and many of them are great, and some are better than others, but based on my research, I'm going to be working with a company called O4 Water based in Santa Barbara, and I've known them for years.

I used to go to their factory and, uh, take their-- they have this system, uh, for hot tubs where they infuse oxygen into the water. And I used to go up to Santa Barbara and soak in their cedar hot tub because it was-- it's just the best thing ever. So my dream is to have one of those someday, but for now, we got to clean up the water.

The water where I live in Texas is, uh, absolutely atrocious, definitely not fit for consumption, and is so bad and toxic, in fact, that it's not even healthy to bathe in or put in your swimming full, or ice bath, or anything like that. Uh, so I'm going to install that system, I think, in about a month. They're building it now, and I also want to make it clear for people that the Aǹalemma products don't filter the water. 

So if you're using tap water that's full of fluoride, and pharmaceuticals, and God knows what else, that water, I'm guessing, would still be better than just regular tap water because at least it's coherent, but it's not removing the toxins. And I wanted to make that clear because someone sent me a message on social the other day, like, oh cool, so I'll just get this for the filter. I'm like, no, that's not the filter. You still have to have clean source water, whether that's a spring water, or RO, or whatever it is. So I'm just going to go all in and put this whole house system in.

Now, the O4 system already comes with a structuring unit, and a remineralizing unit, which is wonderful, and I'm going to leave that intact, but just because I'm next level, uh, I'm going to also install the Aǹalemma along with that system. And so, uh, I'm wondering if it matters if someone wanted to put the whole house system on, would it be, in any way, better to have the Aǹalemma unit being the last item in line after the filtration system, or could one install it before the water runs through the filtration system?

[01:00:17] Mario: I would always say, and I always say this to people, if you can, put it last.

[01:00:24] Luke: That's what I was thinking.

[01:00:25] Mario: Yeah. And because then you know you RO-ed the water, you remineralize it, goes through all of this. And this is, um, it's hugely important from the chemical perspective and take it all out. But the number one thing with water is water is always going to pick up the most dominant frequency of its environment. So all of these toxins, even though you take them out chemically, the information of it, it's still there. 

That's why we always say put it at the end because you are changing the information. It's like a clean slate. You put it in this optimum frequency structure, and then all the water after it, it's just like you purified it energetically and information wise. That's why we always say put it last.

[01:01:19] Luke: Awesome. Yeah, that makes perfect sense. And, uh, something I'm really excited about with the whole house unit is, uh, the fact that I talked to my plumber and I said, it's great that we're going to have really clean and then Aǹalemma structured water all throughout the house, and all the taps, and even the laundry, and the pet water, and whatever, watering the plants.

This is what a geek I am. I already used the wand when I fill up my water pitcher to water the plants. I always structure the water. And I talked about this, I think, in the last podcast we did with your partners. I mean, yeah, I don't know what my plants would look like if I hadn't done that, but, I, in the past have had a difficult time keeping my plants vibrant and healthy.

I have tons of plants all over the house, big ones, small ones, everything in between. And all of my plants are just thriving and killing it. And it's got to have something to do with the fact that I'm using this water. So that's part one. Part two is I'm like, okay, we're going to have this pristine, clean water inside the house that's restructured, but what about the yard? What about all the beautiful plants, and oak trees, and things that we have in the yard, and the swimming pool and Jacuzzi too?

I'm like, ah, now I'm going to be showering in this great water, and then I'm going to be going out in the pool and swimming in tap water and absorbing all that crap that's in the municipal water here. And then my plumber figured out a way to actually run the entire properties water through the filtration and then through the Aǹalemma. So I'm really excited to see what's going to happen when I can fill up the pool with Aǹalemma water.

And all of the irrigation on the property is also going to be structured water because I want to start planting some food, and make a food forest, and have fruit trees, and anything that I can grow here in Texas. I guess I'll find out. But it sounds like I'm probably going to see a healthier lawn, healthier plants, everything that's being watered in the yard is going to be really happy as a result of getting that toxin-free and structured water, right?

[01:03:18] Mario: Most definitely. Well, before we go into the whole benefit of whole house Aǹalemma, I would just like to, uh, mention one thing. Um, it just crossed my mind. There is this, uh, farmer in the Netherlands who actually bought this whole greenhouse where we did the experiments, and he's continued using the water because the whole equipment was there. And he's actually growing organic cucumbers. There's only one kind of cucumber. And this cucumber actually gives fruit, uh, 10 to 12 weeks in a year. And that's basically it. But with Aǹalemma water, now for a couple of years, it's at 22 to 24 weeks.

[01:04:01] Luke: What?

[01:04:02] Mario: Yeah.

[01:04:03] Luke: That's crazy.

[01:04:04] Mario: So it's progressive. Uh, that's why it's so important. The more you use it, the more it, uh, has effect. So I know that you're going to have a blast with using it. And you can actually see it. It's very visual with plants. I always invite people, uh, to do one simple test. You can take two basal plants because they grow fast, and you water one with regular water and one with, uh, Aǹalemma water. And after three weeks, uh, you can stop their water supply, and you can even increase the stressor. You can increase the heat or something, and you just watch what's going to happen.

[01:04:43] Luke: Wow. 

[01:04:44] Mario: The one with regular water is just going to start shriveling down. The one with Aǹalemma water, I don't even have to tell you. You will see the difference. And even if you just drop a couple of drops of Aǹalemma water when it eventually starts to go down, you just have a couple of drops of Aǹalemma water and you see what's going to happen. In less than a minute, there's going to be this powerful coming back to life, which is extraordinary to observe.

When I did this experiment, it was, I don't know, a couple of summers back, where I had this beautiful, large basal plant in my summer house, and I watered with an Aǹalemma of water, but then I had to leave for four days, and it was very hot. It was just summer. So after, I don't know, four or five days of, uh, not receiving water and extreme heat, it would just shrivel down.

When I came back, it was nothing. Nothing happened to it. So this is something that people can really observe. Plants really show it very fast. So I'm thrilled that you're going to use it, uh, on your land, and you will definitely see the results. 

[01:05:58] Luke: I'm so excited.

[01:06:00] Mario: Yeah. To jump into the whole house Aǹalemma. So we hypothesized since skin is our largest, uh, organ on our body. Uh, we wanted to do tests what would happen if people will just bathe in it or stay submerged, uh, until, uh, the neck in the water for 20, 30 minutes. Then we connected to Hydrates Spa and Dr. Greg Lane, who they actually have this system already. People coming in and taking baths.

So, uh, Dr. Greg Lane did several tests. He actually, uh, did the tests on cardiac output, stroke volume, blood viscosity, and many other things. And every single person, every single-- now we're going to do a 100 people study. Every single person up until now in the study experienced significant improvement in the cardiac output, in stroke volume, in blood viscosity. And actually, one of the test, we actually brought one prominent female athlete. I mean, their cardiac output is strong. It needs to be. And even her cardiac output increased.

[01:07:08] Luke: And this is from soaking in the Aǹalemma structured water?

[01:07:12] Mario: Yeah. Twenty minutes to 30 minutes. And I can tell you, one lady actually came and she had severe issues with cardiac output. Actually, they couldn't help her. Uh, they couldn't do operation on her. They couldn't medicate her. It was just an issue, and it was really detrimental for her life. First bath, half an hour, her cardiac output increased by a 100%. First. And now she doesn't want to stop. She's now a couple of months in, and her cardiac output reached normal levels, and it's not going down anymore. So something electromagnetic happens there. We're hypothesizing.

We knew that when you lay down in water for one hour, your body's going to absorb up to a liter of water, but something else happens there. We don't really, um, fully understand what. We're definitely going to, uh, investigate all of the pathways, but it's electromagnetic. Uh, a heart pump is electromagnetic in nature. So something happens there that when you lie down in water, all of you gets activated, so to speak. We're now actually going to do studies on athletes to see if their athletic performance, just by laying in water would improve.

[01:08:37] Luke: That's amazing. So I was onto something with structuring my ice bath water.

[01:08:44] Mario: Most definitely.

[01:08:44] Luke: But to the point of the whole house unit, what I'm also excited about is the fact that, uh, when we built this place, we installed a really beautiful stone, Japanese soaking tub, this giant tub. I mean, it takes 45 minutes to fill it up. It's so big. Probably pretty hard on the water bill now that I think about it. It takes a lot of water. Uh, I got a big enough one where my wife and I could take a bath, and then after we installed it, we've been on a pregnancy journey for a while now. We're hoping to get pregnant and have a kid.

And our vision for, uh, that process is to have the baby at home, and that would likely happen in the bathtub. And so I'm thinking, oh man. So we're going to have clean structure water to take baths in. Because I love taking baths with, uh, Epson salts, and magnesium flakes, and essential oils. Medicinal baths. Baking soda, iodine.

I put all kinds of crazy shit in there. But man, just soaking in there, having a baby that's born into the world with that kind of water, that sounds like a really cool plan. And above that, I thought of something else. Haven't gotten around to it yet, but I, uh, plan to get a float tank, uh, by this company, Serenity Floats. A guy that's been on the podcast, Max. And how cool would it be to structure the water that you put in the float tank with all that magnesium? 

[01:10:02] Mario: Oh man. 

[01:10:03] Luke: Again, obviously, I'm a water fanatic. I'm always thinking about ways to optimize water that I consume or sit in. So that's pretty exciting as well. Um, what's the, uh, the cost on the whole house unit? Is it around a 1,000 or something? I don't recall right offhand.

[01:10:22] Mario: Uh, 1,800.

[01:10:24] Luke: Oh, okay. So 1,800. So that one's a bit more of an investment.

[01:10:28] Mario: Yeah, a bit more of investment, but, uh, when you install it, you have basically coherent water forever, and you don't even have to swirl. Uh, we are going to-- it is expensive, uh, to create for us. We are always very mindful not to-- our whole thing was, even though we knew that this wand, we could price much higher, we wanted to price it in a way that almost every single individual on the planet can afford it. And if you take care of it-- because it's very fragile, so be careful, if you drop it, it will break. I have a lot of them. And once I broke mine, I was so bummed because it's a jewel. You really, uh, have to protect it. But if you protect it, it will create coherent water for life.

[01:11:19] Luke: That's so cool. I almost dropped mine this morning actually. I was rushing to get to the podcast on time, and I went and grabbed it out of the kitchen. I keep it next to the spring water jug, and I was like, ah, it almost fell out of my hands. I was like, no. 

With the whole house unit here, um, I'm assuming this mother water that's present inside the wand is also locked inside of this. Is that how it works?

[01:11:44] Mario: Yes. We actually created a whole line so that the water passes through and it touches the mother water inside for the long period of time. And what's, uh, also very, very interesting, since water is electromagnetic in nature, we needed to test every single material because it doesn't work with all the materials. So we had to use very specific materials so that the whole frequency thing works

[01:12:11] Luke: Ah, okay. Are you allowed to share what metal is in there, or glass, or whatever? Is that proprietary so people don't rip you off and try to do it?

[01:12:21] Mario: Well, it's going to be very hard to rip off because the number one thing that creates the effect is the mother water, which is inside, so you can break it apart, you can do whatever with it, but the magic is in the mother water, to create the mother water. That's why it takes one full year for us to create it, and then wherever we put it, it works.

So that's the--this is, uh, what's so beautiful, uh, to me, how the water is-- why it works. Water is a broadband absorber, receiver, and transmitter of energy, frequency, and vibration. Our whole quest was to create the most dominant positive frequency because we knew that since water is always going to pick up the most dominant frequency of its environment, whatever you expose the mother water to, all of the water will pick up that particular frequency and not any other because all others are not as dominant as this one.

[01:13:23] Luke: Wow.

[01:13:23] Mario: That's why it works. It's simple and elegant, but that's why it works, because of this very particular property of water. So you just take the mud water, put it in crystal vial or in whole house Aǹalemma. We couldn't create out of the glass. It just wouldn't work. That's why we played with various, uh, materials and we found a perfect combination that this very particular frequency or the structure gets transmitted to all the water coming through.

[01:13:55] Luke: Got it. So if one had installed the whole house filter, I mean, not filter, but the whole house unit, that is obviously just going to last forever. 

[01:14:07] Mario: Yes.

[01:14:07] Luke: Okay. Great. 

[01:14:08] Mario: That's the whole thing. You don't have to do anything with it. The water passes through, and it stays in that very particular state. Now we can say for five years after just one treatment, but every single year, uh, we are adding a year, but it's virtually forever.

[01:14:23] Luke: And then when you move, you could just uninstall it and take it to the next place you live and install it, right?

[01:14:29] Mario: Exactly. That's it. 

[01:14:30] Luke: Okay. 

What about, um, we talked about ideally installing it as the last step in a whole house filtration system. I'm assuming since the influence of the mother water inside the unit is king and nothing, uh, overrides that, you could, for example, have the whole house, uh, structuring unit, but say you just have a local, uh, filter like an AquaTru countertop, which we were using for the past couple years, a reverse osmosis system. So say the source water was coming out of the tap, had already been structured with the Aǹalemma, then I pour it in the AquaTru, and it goes through the reverse osmosis, it's still going to come out structured even after that, right?

[01:15:18] Mario: You are actually asking a brilliant question

[01:15:21] Luke: Well, that's my job. Sometimes I get lucky. 

[01:15:25] Mario: Because we did many testing with it, and we realized that if you put RO immediately after whole house Aǹalemma, it will create an issue in the coherence. We realized that we need at least three meters of piping for water to "settle". And then if it enters into RO, no worries there. And we did more than several tests with it. So we always say, put a whole house last. If you cannot always create three meters of pipingin between whole house Aǹalemma and the RO. Then it works. No worries. 

So just like you mentioned, Aǹalemma water is the king, and the coherence stays, but for some reason, we realized if it goes immediately into the RO, then uh, we saw some fluctuations in coherence. So just that we avoid this 100%, always have three meters of piping so that the water settles.

[01:16:35] Luke: Noted. Okay, cool. 

[01:16:36] Mario: So it's an amazing question that you asked that because it was relevant. It is relevant. We saw it in our testing.

[01:16:43] Luke: Well, after eight years of doing this, I'm pretty good at, uh, predicting the questions that listeners have after I do interviews, and I guarantee you someone listening's, like, yeah, but what about, um, so I want to know, and I know many of the listeners do, and I had a selfish motive in knowing that, because even though we're going to have the whole house O4 system, then the Aǹalemma structuring unit also inside the kitchen, what we have now is this beautiful machine called the Bio Quantum, uh, Bio Quantum, what? I forget. It's basically a water cooler that, uh, O4 makes.

This thing is so freaking awesome. So we had our handyman install it in the wall so it only sticks out, and it's easier to make room. And then he ran the hot and cold water from under the sink, which is still quite a few meters away from the source water. So essentially, you run water and electricity to it, and inside this water cooler, like what you'd see in an office, an office water cooler, essentially, which by the way, if anyone owns a business and you want everyone drinking beautiful water, highly recommend a Bio Quantum machine by, uh, O4. 

It's called the Bio Quantum something. I just got it a few days ago, so I don't know the whole name yet, but, um, I'm sure I have it on my website or I will by the time this comes out. But anyway, this machine has all of this hardcore filtration inside it. And then it has, um, a restructuring unit in it also. And then it remineralize the water, and it also has an ozone generator in it that oxygenates the water. And then the water comes out hot and cold. I mean, I'm lazy. I hate boiling water to make tea and coffee.

It's just another five minutes I have to pay attention to something. The water comes out piping hot, so you just have like instant water for coffee. And I like drinking cold water, so it's this pristine water. And I got to say, it comes out so polished. It tastes like cold spring water.

I mean, the flavor profile, the mouth feel, these guys, they've won all kinds of awards for the bottled water they make from tap water. So I'm super excited to have-- now knowing it's enough meters away, where if the whole house Aǹalemma structuring the water that's already been filtered like hell, and then it comes out of that machine, it's going to be still structured, and then cleaned basically twice, and have oxygen added into it. And I'm really happy to hear that it's going to still retain the Aǹalemma structure, which super important to me. Because it's like, if you're going to buy something for a couple grand, it's like, you don't want to ruin it

[01:19:24] Mario: Yeah. Most definitely. So you are asking all the relevant questions. I want to come back-- it just crossed my mind.

[01:19:31] Luke: Wait. Hold on one second. 

[01:19:32] Mario: Please.

[01:19:32] Luke: I have one question I just thought of.

[01:19:34] Mario: Yeah.

[01:19:35] Luke: Is there any downside to having the Aǹalemma source water then run through another structuring unit, or if it's far enough away, will it still maintain its original content?

[01:19:47] Mario: Iwould always say-- we found this very, very particular structure. 

[01:19:53] Luke: Right.

[01:19:54] Mario: We didn't go about it. Most, uh, other structuring water devices, it goes either through vortexing, or magnets, or crystals. We are using a completely different system, and there are various other structures, so to speak. So this water serves-- the structure of this water, this liquid crystalline state is like a radio. It turns water in an antenna to receive this very particular optimum frequency. So that's why I will always say, use it the latest.

[01:20:35] Luke: Got it. 

[01:20:35] Mario: Then you get the optimum frequency. I have to-- this is what I actually wanted to say, why this is so important and where we-- this was also one of the, oh my God moments in our research. So early on, we did research where we watered seeds with regular water and with Aǹalemma water. And we measured biophoton emissions. So when, uh, we watered seeds with regular water, we didn't see anything special happening. But when you watered seeds with Aǹalemma water, we started seeing this sinusoidal shape, these peaks and valleys of biophoton emissions, breathing of some kind. And we didn't understand what was happening there. And after a while, we realized that it followed the tides.

[01:21:27] Luke: Oh wow.

[01:21:29] Mario: So it connected the seed to the circadian rhythm of nature. That's why we-- this was a moment for us because we realized that this water opens pathways for us to be connected with the universe, so to speak, with electromagnetic forces, with nature. It connects you to nature. You become a part, electromagnetically, with something which is much larger than yourself. And you know what I love about this, because we are all part of this incredible energetic ecosystem, and the way people live on the planet, we are disconnected between ourselves, disconnected from nature, and this is a way where we are coming into connection with nature.

[01:22:32] Luke: Beautiful. 

[01:22:33] Mario: And if this happens with the seed, can you imagine what happens to us?

[01:22:40] Luke: Wow. I mean, that makes me, uh, think you guys could do a sleep study. If the structured water from the Aǹalemma water is affecting the tide, essentially, it's water that's separated from the ocean, but it's acting like the tide on that seed experiment, and we're yoked to these forces of nature, the moon, the sun, and the whole astrological system. We know that has an effect on our mood, and biology, and sleep. I mean, it never fails. If I have a bad night's sleep, the next morning I'll be like, oh, I slept like shit. My wife will go, it's a full moon. So it's not placebo because I don't even know it's a full moon. I don't really follow that stuff.

She's like, oh yeah, of course, you know, it's the new moon, or the full moon, or whatever. So it definitely has an effect on us. I wonder if there's something that could be done in a legitimate placebo-controlled double-blind sleep study where you see-- because you do have some studies, and I want to touch on this, where we know that the Aǹalemma water is positively affecting brain waves, and brainwaves have so much to do with sleep quality and also sleep structure in terms of deep rem, etc. So that's very interesting. If this, um, structure of the water is going to affect us as it does plants in terms of our connection to circadian rhythms of the planet, the cosmos, and everything else, that's super interesting.

[01:24:05] Mario: Yeah. Definitely. I mean, you gave me a good idea. To be honest, it never even crossed my mind to do a sleep study, but it's amazing.

[01:24:13] Luke: Yeah. 

[01:24:14] Mario: I definitely love it.

[01:24:15] Luke: Tell me about the studies you guys did with, uh, with brain waves.

[01:24:19] Mario: Ah, this is truly fantastic. Uh, the most electromagnetic part of us is our brain waves. Since this water is electromagnetic in nature, we wanted to see what would happen, uh, when people would drink this water in terms of brainwaves. So we did a double-blind twin study. So we took genetically identical twins. 

It's a golden standard of the study because you definitely can then see what happens with one or the other because they're the same. So, uh, what we did, we took QEEG equipment, and we gave to one regular water, to the other one, we gave Aǹalemma water. So doctor administering the test didn't know which one was which, and twins didn't know which one was which. And we were watching the results.

So almost instantly, as soon as a twin that drank, uh, Aǹalemma water, took a sip of the water, so we've a very short period of tim, there was an instant better connection between the left and the right hemisphere of the brain, an instant cooling effect on the brain wave. So this is something that happens almost instantly. 

And the other twin that drank regular water, nothing happened. So it was amazing to observe. And what we did actually, after that, couple of weeks later, we repeated the test and we gave, uh, Aǹalemma water to the other twin. Because they're genetically identical, we had exactly the same phenomenon happening with the other one, while the first one who drank regular water, again, nothing happened.

So this is something that you cannot ignore it. It just happens in front of your eyes, which was amazing. But then we wanted to see, uh, what will happen-- we did a pilot study with, uh, one person who had this, uh, a neurodegenerative disorder, which was pretty severe, uh, that influenced delta, uh, waves.

So, uh, delta waves are usually active when we sleep. They're not active when we are awake. And this neurogenerative disorder, uh, in this disorder, uh, delta waves go up, and you cannot stop them. It's actually progressive. So it just goes up and up. And what we did, we wanted to see what will happen when this individual would drink the water. 

And, uh, it was a 50-day study, and lo and behold, delta waves started to come down. And after 51 days, they actually went into normal. And this person really reported feeling amazing, but it's amazing to actually see the before and after. You could see all the scans and everything. So you see the very, very, uh, tangible difference there.

[01:27:09] Luke: Hang on one second. I'm going to drink some right now. I want to show you another experiment.

[01:27:14] Mario: I'm drinking mine all the time.

[01:27:15] Luke: I want to show you another experiment too. So I love hydrogen water, hydrogen-infused water. And I used to use these little tablets to make hydrogen water, and I still do when I travel. And then I found this machine called the HydroFix. It's from Japan. Lourdes HydroFix. And I was going to put it in the kitchen, and I thought, man, sometimes I get stuck in my office, and if I get into a focus mode, I don't want to leave because then I'll get distracted and I'll go screw around or hang out with my wife.

I mean, as lovely as that is, I won't get any work done. So I was like, oh, I'm going to try to put the HydroFix on my desk and just see if I, um, end up drinking more water and I find it useful, and I have, so I just happen to have the picture from it. I can't show the whole machine because it's plugged in on the back of my desk, but what I do now is when I fill this up with my, uh, a live spring water, or now the O4, a Bio Quantum machine is I'll stir this water and then I'll make the hydrogen with it.

So I have this really great pure structured water that has hydrogen in it. So that's my latest experiment, what I'm up to here. But in our conversation here, I had a thought, and it sounds like I'm probably cool, but there's, it's not electrolysis. I forget the way exactly the hydrogen is infused into these nano bubbles with this particular device. Many of them use electrolysis where you're essentially electrocuting the water, like Aangan machine, and things, uh, of that nature, which I'm not a fan of.

[01:28:48] Mario: Yeah. 

[01:28:49] Luke: But if I'm making my water this way, uh, if I'm structuring it first, then infusing it with hydrogen, do you think I'm having any negative impact on the structured element of it?

[01:29:02] Mario: Well, I haven't done the study on it, so I cannot really 100%, uh, that's why I always say, use the one the latest.

[01:29:10] Luke: Okay. Right. So I could-- 

[01:29:12] Mario: Because then you're 100% sure. 

[01:29:14] Luke: Right. So I could-- because it takes about 30 minutes to bring it up to, I think it's 1.5 or something PPMs, um, once it's fully saturated. And the cool thing about this machine is that it just keeps infusing the hydrogen in there all day so that it doesn't, um, diffuse out of the top basically because hydrogen's so small and it's a gas. If you just made hydrogen and let it sit there, it would all evaporate, essentially. But what I could do is run the hydrogen generation when it hits the 30 minutes and it's at the full saturation, then I could structure it with the wand.

[01:29:47] Mario: Yes. And then you have the best of both wands. Then it could just work.

[01:29:51] Luke: I like it. I mean, this water's incredible. I mean, now knowing that it's going to have an impact on the brainwaves, which I didn't know, that's very open to placebo or suggestion where I think, wow, I'm really focused drinking this water. I mean, who thinks water makes you more focused? But if you're in a really agitated beta brainwave state, and you're out of coherence in your brain and you drink water, that could then help you balance some of the ranges of beta, even bringing some alpha waves that would have an impact on your productivity. If that's what's happening to your brainwaves, which it seems.

[01:30:23] Mario: Most definitely. I actually have to, uh, add one study. Uh, one additional study that we did. We realized that EMFs are actually influencing brain waves. And we did a study on it. So we took several people and they used, uh, a cell phone for a couple of minutes, and we measured their brainwaves all the time.

Immediately, as people start to use cell phones, there is a chaotic effect. Your brainwaves go into chaotic state, and it's very palpable, visual, so you can see it's irrefutable. And what we did, uh, after those couple of minutes of cell phone usage, we gave regular water to some of, uh, the participants in the study. And to some, we gave Aǹalemma water.

And to those participants who drank Aǹalemma water, again, instant cooling effect on the brainwaves. Their brainwaves went back to normal while the people who used the cell phone and drank regular water, this particular negative effect on the brainwaves stayed much, much longer. It took much longer time for brainwaves to go back to normal.

[01:31:30] Luke: That's incredible. I don't know if you're aware, but people listening will surely be if they've listened before. I'm a huge advocate for EMF awareness and safety. Uh, I mean, our whole house is basically built to avoid EMF exposure. Um, right now, my phone's here, it's on airplane mode. It's dark. It's always like that, um, unless I have to use it. I always use speakerphone. But I love hearing that you actually saw some data on that because when I'm out in the world, I still see people wearing Bluetooth, uh, earbuds and people talking on the phone with their phone up against their head.

And it takes everything in me to not be like, hey, did you know you're really hurting yourself by doing that? Unless someone asks me, I try to keep my mouth shut. But, um, it's nice that you've actually quantified that scientifically, and you can-- I mean, there's a lot of studies out there showing that it's harmful, but I didn't know specifically about the brain waves, that piece. I mean, it makes sense.

[01:32:33] Mario: I have to tell you one thing, which is probably going to be interesting to you, but, uh, especially now 5G, where you actually did a study, we realized one really bad effect of these waves. Uh, they're actually-- most probably we're the first ones. There is a group of scientists working on the project, uh, now.

So, uh, 5G, particularly, is having negative effect on pathogenic bacteria. And as the saturation of these waves is getting more powerful by the month, in a couple of years we're going to have not only whole infrastructure of 5G on the land, we're going to have 100,000 satellites, which are going to saturate the low orbit with these waves. And we proved that pathogenic bacteria, E. coli, is one of them, really goes berserk on it. So that's going to be a huge issue soon. 

[01:33:41] Luke: Major issue. That's why I'm such a loud mouth about it. Again, going back to my stance on environmentalism, I love that people care about the planet, and it's like, I'm definitely against pollution and harming our Mother Earth because I don't view the environment or the planet as something outside of myself or different than myself. I live my life with an awareness that I am the same thing. So if I use some cleaning chemicals in my house and go pour them on the ground, I get the sense that I'm actually pouring them on myself. There's not really a difference there. 

So my relationship is as such. That said, as much as I honor people that are doing their part to protect the environment, um, there's two things that are really missing largely from that conversation, and that is what you just described, the proliferation of harmful radiation on the entire face of the planet coming not only from the planet, but now above, thanks to Elon Musk and people, uh, of that ilk.

Uh, and then the other thing is the geoengineering, the, uh, atmospheric aerosol injection that you can just look up on most places in the planet and see the sky is full of these chemicals that they're doing for God knows what, and they pretend like they're not doing. But those two issues, when I meet people that are, concerned about changing the weather, I always look up and I'm like, you guys, that's how the weather's changing. It's right there.

It's just maddening to me. But everyone plays their part. And I guess my part is being the guy that's willing to go out on the limb and be a bit fringe and say, you guys, the real problem-- the EMF issue is not only a huge issue for human health, but it affects migrating birds, and it also has a tremendously bad effect on bees and their navigation system, especially the 5G, the millimeter waves.

And that's not as much of a problem because in rural areas, the millimeter waves aren't very useful because they don't go very far. And that's where most of the bees are. But that withstanding, uh, if we don't have bees, we got a huge problem on our hands because guess what? We have no more food. So it's like--

[01:35:49] Mario: Most definitely. And I can tell you one thing, this whole like satellite thing, they're actually saturating the parts of the planet, which it's not feasible for them to create the infrastructure. And then these are the parts which are very natural in its environment. There aren't people there.

And then they are actually saturating these parts with these waves. And we can already see the detrimental effect. So this is actually, I would say most probably-- we have two of the biggest challenges. One is EMFs, what's happening in the world, and second one is, um, glyphosate and the killing of the microbiome of the soil. Two of those are really, really connected. And what I love is that, uh, Aǹalemma water has a protective effect on both.

[01:36:43] Luke: Dude, that's so cool. And I love what you were saying before about, um, that all of the runoff of all the water that's on the land is eventually going back into the ocean. And if you think about the capacity that the Aǹalemma water has to restructure, eventually, waters in lake streams, rivers, etc, which was once mostly ocean water, I mean, there's a thing of which I'm a huge fan called primary water, and that's water that's created and comes out of springs that's never been through the hydrological cycle. It's a whole other conversation. Uh, it's water that the planet actually makes. The planet also makes crude oil, people.

Many people don't realize that or refute it, but the planet is constantly creating water and oil. But leaving that aside, let's just talk about the hydrological cycle. If we're toxifying the oceans with coal plants that are dumping mercury into the ocean and all the other plastics and crap we put in the ocean, that water then precipitates and becomes clouds, and then that becomes rain, sleet, and snow that dumps onto the land mass, and then becomes rivers, lake streams, etc, and goes back into the ocean.

So imagine in a few years, as I'm sure you have, we can structure all the water on the land and then displace all the incoherent water in the oceans with structured water. I mean, imagine the positive effect on marine life. 

[01:38:11] Mario: Yes.

[01:38:11] Luke: On bringing the-- because there's a microbiome in the ocean. You get proliferation of certain pathogenic allergies, for example, that are-- 

[01:38:20] Mario: This is exactly what we're testing now. 

[01:38:22] Luke: Or that are prone to the acidification of the water and so on. I mean, it's all such a delicate system, and I think you're just onto something so beautiful here is that if we really focus on the water, then the downstream effect of that, no pun intended, is the health of the soil. And that also is going to help us retain water on land and protect from erosion. That's desertification of our land, and also everything in the ocean. It's so exciting. This is really beautiful.

[01:38:53] Mario: And I have to, uh, say one more thing because, as I mentioned, water is a broadband absorber, receiver, and transmitter of energy, frequency, and vibration. And when you have these EMF satellites in low orbit, they go through clouds, which is water.

[01:39:11] Luke: Right.

[01:39:11] Mario: And they're changing the information field in the water. And we already prove that if you take just one glass of regular water and put it next to Wi-Fi router, the water goes deep into chaos. With Aǹalemma water, that doesn't happen. So our whole thing is if we can create all the water, exactly like you mentioned, this whole cycle, but you have water which is resistant to, uh, those frequencies, it remains stable, even exposed to these kind of frequencies, then we are not changing. Then we are not having this detrimental effect because then water falls again on the soil, the microbiome of the soil stays intact. We are not having explosion of pathogenic bacteria or whatever. Everything stays balanced.

[01:40:05] Luke: Wow. So while we're thinking really big here-- we're thinking futuristic, and that's what it takes. I mean, yeah, it's great. Like, clean up the water you drink. That's a great start. But let's just go ahead and think big. If it takes a year for you guys to create what's really the proprietary part of Aǹalemma water, the mother water that's in this wand and that's inside the whole house unit, what's the scalability of being able to produce enough of this mother water? I mean, do you guys have the capacity to produce tens of thousands of gallons of it if that's what was called for in order to introduce this into agriculture?

[01:40:43] Mario: We already had everything of this in mind, and we are preparing exactly for that because we saw where the earth is going. That's why I'm saying that we firmly believe that Mother Earth is the hidden voice of this project. We are serving her.

[01:40:58] Luke: Yeah.

[01:40:59] Mario: We saw what's happening, and in these moments, some people get frightened, so to speak, but I'm excited because we have the solution, and I would even venture to say that it came through us. That's why we don't feel like we own it, if you know what I mean. In this point of time, it's necessary because it will bring back the balance that we lost. Even though it's very hard to stop what's happening in the world. It's very hard to stop 5G from expanding in this incredible escalating rate. But we can have a protective effect. 

And anybody can actually get to it. So this is what's hugely important. And our thing is to bring this to the governmental level. I know it's going to be hard, and I know we are going to have a huge pushback, but that's why we are investing so much into hardcore science because then it becomes irrefutable to whichever scientist takes our, uh, studies. They speak for themselves.

[01:42:11] Luke: Smart. I love your, uh, enthusiasm, and, um, your optimism. I find for myself, I'm just someone who loves to learn. I'm just a seeker and finder of truth. And sometimes that leads me down some pretty dark paths. And it's like-- 

[01:42:28] Mario: I know, brother.

[01:42:29] Luke: When you start waking up and really understanding the way the world works and who's running the world and what they're up to, and these, for lack of a better term, just dark forces that are working against the betterment of the planet and all its inhabitants, it can get pretty depressing. So I love your perspective.

[01:42:51] Mario: I agree with you. But how I'm seeing it-- because I speak with a lot of people and people really get disheartened, and I completely understand them. But this is the thing. This is what I believe is-- there is this beautiful book by Neale Donald Walsch called Conversations with God. And there is one quote, which I really love, is he mentioned there that the beauty and the fragrance of our flowering shall fill the land, and we shall yet take our place in the garden of gods. From the nightmare of our own creation into the wondrous dream of what a life was intended to be. 

I firmly believe that this is our actual destiny. All the spiritual traditions of the world, they've predicted that we are going to have challenging moments, but that we are actually entering into a golden age. I truly believe in that. So however things look on the outside, old civilization is dying and the new civilization is being born. And if things stay stagnant, if there isn't a huge upheaval, then there wouldn't be dramatic changes, and we need a dramatic change right now.

But that's why your work is relevant. And I believe that all of us should-- this is how water is teaching us. From the chaotic state, colloquially speaking, H₂O molecules join hands, and then their true power is being unleashed. So it's time for all of us to come together in that particular way.

[01:44:29] Luke: Absolutely. I love it, dude. And, uh, it's great to be reminded of that. Um, I have a couple more questions for you. I could go all day, obviously. You get me talking about water, and consciousness, and moving humanity forward into the golden age, we could be here for eight or nine hours at least. But, uh, I'm curious about a couple things. There's a couple parts to it.

[01:44:52] Mario: Mm-hmm.

[01:44:52] Luke: What are the benefits, whether you've studied this or just intuitively your thoughts on it of habitually using the Aǹalemma water for our coffee, our smoothies, um, making tinctures? Mixing them with other things is what I'm getting at. Because I drink all kinds of different elixirs, and herbal potions, and nootropics, and all kinds of stuff, and I've just intuitively felt like, well, of course I want to structure the water before I put it in there. If we're using this as the base water, this coherent water as the base water to drink other kinds of drinks to support our health, uh, do you think there's any added benefit to that? Are we able to potentiate the effects of different constituents of the drinks that we're making?

[01:45:42] Mario: Full disclosure, we haven't done a study on it, so it's, uh, I'm just going to share my personal opinion. I'm 100% sure that it actually does. This is the thing about water. This is what I love about water. When you bring it to this very particular state, you are priming it to receive the information. That's why water always reacts. That's why it's so intelligent. Dr. Masaru Emoto, you mentioned him, he proved that water picks up the frequency. So in this way, you are priming it to receive extra, so to speak. That's why I love the whole ritual. When you're swirling the water, you're actually expressing reverence to it, so to speak. It's like, um--

[01:46:44] Luke: Right.

[01:46:45] Mario: Rare ritual, and you bring it into this very particular state. Before I drink it, I always bless my water. You send it your highest energies. The highest of you enters into this water, and then you drink it. This is what I love about blessings, and I know that you're like familiar with this 100%. What I love about it, since we are all water, and if I send something to someone, I am literally bringing healing information into, uh, someone's field. And this is what I love about it. I know that it entered someone's field because I feel it. Whatever I send out passes through me before, so in this way, I know that my blessing was received. So whatever we send out multiplies. I love this. And it's all happening through water.

[01:47:58] Luke: Beautiful. I've contemplated that too, thinking about our body masses depend on who you ask, 60, 70% water. You stated earlier, molecule for molecule, we're 99% water. And now learning what I've learned in the past few years about the consciousness of water and that it's a carrier and a transmitter of energy, of consciousness itself, um, I've thought about that. When you get bad vibes, when you walk in a room or you walk in a room, and you're blessing and loving on everyone, I wonder how much of that is actually the water communicating from body to body. 

I mean, think about, if you cremate a human body, all that's left is essentially carbon, a few ounces of dust, and where did the rest of it go? It's evaporated because it's water. It's just crazy. So I wonder how much of that blessing phenomenon has to do with, we're in a room together, or maybe even right now, we're on a Zoom, and the water in my body is carrying a certain frequency, reflecting my consciousness and my intentions, and it's speaking to the water in your body

[01:49:15] Mario: Exactly.

[01:49:15] Luke: And vice versa. There's a substrate of communication going on there that's being done by and through the water of our bodies, not just the brain waves and the energy of our heart field, and all these other things that are also measurable. I wonder how much of that is the unseen hand of the intelligence, and wisdom, and love of water.

[01:49:36] Mario: Exactly. The way I see it, we are light beings. We are spiritual beings. And the first connection where we are married with physicality is through water. Water holds everything. Dr. Eric Laarakker mentions this, and he sees water as a bio quantum computer. So all of the information is there. This is the information system through which we communicate and correlate with the world.

[01:50:14] Luke: Okay, so if we could take the source water of a drink, or elixir, or a smoothie or something that we're making, and structure that, and then make the drink, it brings to mind that we could probably say we don't make the drink. Let's say I go get a smoothie down the road at SunLife Organics, could I use the wand to structure that smoothie because there's water in it? Does it work like that? 

[01:50:38] Mario: Yes. Exactly like that. So any liquid that you're going to drink, if it has H₂O molecules and if you use an Aǹalemma on it, it'll create this beautiful liquid crystal state inside. So you can-- if you're drinking beer, you can make beer coherent, or wine coherent, or coffee, or whatever. I always like to say, just please be mindful that you're not using it in very hot liquids because this, um, crystal vial is very gentle and soft so it doesn't break, but any other liquids, you can use on all of them, and you can bring whatever you're drinking into this very particular coherent state.

[01:51:16] Luke: All right. You know what I'm going to do then? Uh, and I'll report back on the effects next time, and I don't have this planned in the immediate future, but the way that this happens is always spontaneous. Uh, next time I sit in an ayahuasca ceremony, I'm going to ask the I'm shaman permission, if it would be appropriate, of course. I never want to override anyone's, um, rituals or anything. But I'm going to take my wand and I'm going to stir that ayahuasca.

[01:51:43] Mario: That would be so brilliant. 

[01:51:45] Luke: Yeah.

[01:51:46] Mario: Please let me know.

[01:51:48] Luke: Yeah. I mean, ayahuasca on its own in the right context, setting, and all that, uh, works wonders, but imagine if it was coherent also. I can just never leave well enough alone, basically. You know what I mean? It's like, anything I can optimize, it's just the geek little pseudo scientist in my mind that's like, yeah, it's good now, but what if you did this other thing to it? So I will try that, and I'm going to report back to you. Um, I think we covered just about everything I want to cover today, Mario. This was, um, by far exceeded my expectations.

I knew we were going to have a great chat, and, uh, we went way above and beyond that. Uh, the only thing I think we didn't get into in great detail, but it's probably inferred by the rest of the conversation, is the impact on animals. And I'm really excited, um, to now be able to have all the water our dog and cat drink be structured.

Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't. I don't always remember, but now that I know the whole house system's going to be doing that and it's going to be clean water, they're going to be drinking that, and I want to do an experiment, or I'm going to try. I'm just reminding myself of the various little funny experiments I want to do.

It's really hot here where I live in Texas, uh, a lot of the time. And so if I take the dog for a walk, she's just dying for water when we get back in. I'm going to take two identical bowls when she's super thirsty, and I'm going to pour some, an Aǹalemma water in one and regular water in the other and see which one she goes for.

[01:53:20] Mario: Please do because, uh, we already have people reported this big time. So, uh, one colleague of mine, she has a cat at her house, and she's actually experimented with this thing for a while. Almost every single day, she played with it, and her cat avoided, uh, regular water and went from Aǹalemma water. So it would be really interesting. Please report back. 

But anyhow, our animal studies, since Dr. Eric Laarakker is a veterinarian, he's a holistic veterinarian for many years now. He has a big clinic in the Netherlands, treating animals. So there is really a lot of experience there. And we are now, uh, actually in the middle of a pretty large study where we're measuring health of animals. But I'm just going to give you one small, uh, story. Uh, there was, uh, one lady that, uh, she had a big farm in the Netherlands, and she had loads of issues with health of animals inside, uh, the stable.

And, uh, she did various classic veterinary, uh, ways with, uh, medicines and everything, but nothing seemed to help. And she asked Eric, uh, for help, and he just gave her the Aǹalemma. And actually, he just gave her the stick. So she was creating all the water. And so, uh, all of the animals in the stable drank the water. And after month, month and a half, almost all diseases went out.

[01:54:50] Luke: Really?

[01:54:52] Mario: Of the stable. So this is-- what I love about animals is you don't have placebo.

[01:54:57] Luke: Totally. Yeah.

[01:54:59] Mario: Either it works or it doesn't.

[01:55:01] Luke: Yeah.

[01:55:02] Mario: So this is a lovely thing. With animals, you don't have to-- now we're actually going to do also biological age of animals. We're doing the DNA methylation, and all of these other tests. So we are also into animal health, doing various studies. So yeah.

[01:55:17] Luke: Man, that's really exciting. I mentioned my trip to Costa Rica, uh, a little while ago, and that was just last week. And so I have a renewed passion around regenerative agriculture, and, um, more broadly, uh, environmentalism. Just like, huh, I wonder if there is anything I can contribute. And so we're down on this farm, as I said, and they have some livestock there, maybe, I don't know, 15 head of cattle, and a couple ponies, and things like that. But I'm thinking about agricultural operations with livestock and how this could impact them because one of the main problems obviously is if you're not doing regenerative agriculture with the livestock, then that necessitates antibiotics and all these other toxic-- 

[01:56:06] Mario: Exactly. Yeah. 

[01:56:07] Luke: And just things that aren't good for the, animals and ultimately, for the people that eat the animals. So I'm wondering about the future of this too, in the agricultural setting in terms of livestock, of having, uh, ranchers and operations not be shocked by having to remove those other pharmaceutical inputs, but perhaps, over time, some of them could just start changing the water without even going organic or regenerative and start to improve the health of the animals and have them be less dependent on all of these chemical and antibiotic inputs.

[01:56:43] Mario: Exactly. Because all of the antibiotics, it's the same thing. Everything comes back to microbiome. If you restore the microbiome, if you create the balance in the microbiome of soil and of gut in the animals and our guts, everything comes together. We are all part of this ecosystem, and we need an equilibrium. Everything affects everything. So when we go to this very essential, basic level, then everything comes back to water.

[01:57:14] Luke: Badass, brother. Hey, where are you in the world right now anyway? I know our times were a few hours apart, and you have a bit of an accent.

[01:57:21] Mario: Yeah. Um, I'm actually in Croatia.

[01:57:24] Luke: Really?

[01:57:24] Mario: Yeah. 

[01:57:25] Luke: Oh, cool. I didn't know that. 

[01:57:26] Mario: Have you been to Croatia?

[01:57:27] Luke: I haven't, but I have a number of friends who report that it is their all time favorite place to go in that part of the world, and that it's--

[01:57:37] Mario: It's incredible.

[01:57:38] Luke: It's always reported as this undiscovered gem. Some would be like, dude, you're up, Mediterranean, cool, whatever. You got to go to Croatia. And I just, for some reason haven't gotten around to it. But yeah.

[01:57:50] Mario: We have over a 1,000 islands, and our coast is just amazing. So yeah. Please come. You're going to have a blast.

[01:57:56] Luke: So that's why you have a summer home, because I'm assuming the winters there can be rough.

[01:58:02] Mario: Yeah. I mean, I have a house on beautiful island of Pag, and it's wonderful there. It's just beautiful. Please come. If you come to Croatia, please give me a call. I would love to be your host or at least take you to [Inaudible]. 

[01:58:18] Luke: Thank you. Well, you're the only Croatian I know. So you'd be the first one I call. Yeah.

[01:58:24] Mario: Awesome. I'll do a great itinerary for you. So our whole manufacturing and everything is in the Netherlands, and everything is there. But I'm Croatian, and since I have a lot of international experience in doing all kinds of works both in Europe and America, it happened that, uh, I'm running things from here.

[01:58:44] Luke: Beautiful, man. Well, thank you so much for your generosity of time today. I got to cover every single nuanced question I could ever think of, and then some. So I appreciate it. I love interviewing people and they're willing to just go deep and geek out with me because there's few things worse as a podcaster than ending a recording and going, oh man, we forgot to talk about X, Y, and Z. Or that the person's like, hey, I only have an hour. I got to go. And I'm like, ah, I can't do it in an hour. I'm too curious. I'm too passionate and curious. So thank you for indulging 

[01:59:18] Mario: I have to tell you one thing. It was a huge pleasure for me because this is exactly how I like to do-- I like to keep it spontaneous. I don't have anything prepared. So a podcast with me always depends on getting the vibe. And I love your vibe. I love your enthusiasm. I love your passion. And this is exactly how we all should be, in a way.

[01:59:41] Luke: Yeah.

[01:59:41] Mario: Just living life and be really curious about things because if you're curious, then we'll get to the bottom of things.

[01:59:50] Luke: Yes, we will. Well, I can't wait to see what you guys are up to next, and, uh, look forward to chatting with you again.

[01:59:56] Mario: Looking forward to it. Thank you so much for having me.

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