[00:00:01] Luke: All right, Greg the Hydrogen Man. Good to have you back, dude. It's been a couple of years.

[00:00:05] Greg: Absolutely. It's really good to see you again. Yeah, it's been a while.

[00:00:08] Luke: You too, man. I'm stoked. So for those listening, the last episode was number 438, and we'll link to that in today's show notes, which are lukestorey.com/h2. Actually, no, the show notes are lukestorey.com/hydrogen. The last one we did was H2, but we'll put all that and anything we talk about today in the links. Tell me what the meaning is behind Uprising 144k.

[00:00:31] Greg: So Uprising for me, the first thing is I'm not even supposed to be alive. I don't know if you know that, Luke. I'm literally supposed to have died. Ironically, I did have an NDE, which is a whole other story, actually, because I was really sick. And Uprising, to me, is you're rising up again from amongst the dead. Because when you're sick and all this, your life is done.

[00:00:54] I lost everything when I was sick, including the ability to walk. Not being able to walk is very painful. And so just rising up again, the ascension process, which by the way, water and hydrogen, there's a lot of interesting correlations that I found. It's actually very spiritual in the ascension process of it all and what it means with purity.

[00:01:15] I'm a purist, brother. And when I say I'm a purist, when I drink my water, I want it to be the cleanest water. When I do hydrogen, I want it to be the cleanest, best hydrogen. When I eat my food, I want it to be organic food with rich soils that give it all the nutrients. This body is the temple.

[00:01:30] And I learned a lot of things in my near-death experience, so many things. It actually changed my life so much that everything, the way that I live, everything, the way that I see life-- and I'm already pretty old, so I don't have a lot of years left either. And the way that I live life, the things that I value are just so different now.

[00:01:49] Who cares about the cars, the houses, the money. You're not taking any of that with you. And while you're here, you want to feel great. You want to feel healthy, you want to have the ability to walk. You want to be able to feel happy and share that love with others. So I don't know if that answers your question so much, but it's a spiritual thing for sure.

[00:02:04] Luke: It does. What's the significance of the 144? Is that nodes of 12 times, whatever that is, or something?

[00:02:12] Greg: Yeah. In ancient scripture, it's the 12 tribes of 12,000, which is 144,000, which are the children of light. So hydrogen ultimately is light. When you look at the stars and everything, they're made of hydrogen, and it's just light. And you're bringing that light in. Purity has a lot to do with it too, so that you can-- and they're the last "survivors."

[00:02:32] We're about to go through the apocalypses, I think everybody's starting to realize. And honestly, I think the hydrogen has a lot to do with it, but nobody knows that yet. But hydrogen has everything to do with the age of Aquarius, by the way. It has to do with the knowledge of water. In fact, the word hydrogen actually means that which becomes water.

[00:02:48] And that's why it actually saddens me so much to see the corruption that I've witnessed, sadly, in the world of hydrogen. But that's what happens when there's a lot of attention onto one thing. So it took a lot of homework for me. I had to literally travel to Japan to really get to the bottom of this because America is many years behind Japan. Everything that's happening in America right now has already happened over there. And so there's a lot to learn from all that.

[00:03:10] Luke: Yeah. The hydrogen industry as a whole is one of the most bizarre. There's a couple categories where there's so much strange competition and misinformation amongst the purveyors of those products. Saunas, mattresses, they're probably the close second and third, but nothing gets people as out of their goddamn minds as hydrogen.

[00:03:40] Greg: It's crazy.

[00:03:41] Luke: Which tells me there must really be-- I know there's something to it. I've been using it for, I don't know, 10 years, I think, now. So I'm a devotee of hydrogen big time. But there must be something that the human being inherently knows about the power of hydrogen that makes people go so nuts over it.

[00:04:03] It's a limited resource. And I guess it's an abundant resource, but I think the limitations are around how to manufacture it and sell the products that make it. And that's where there's a lot of cut-throat, weird misinformation and people tearing each other down. It's the weirdest thing ever.

[00:04:23] But it just reminds me that sometimes humans, we have a very scarcity mindset and a competitive mindset, and we're all looking for the same thing, which is what you just described, to feel really good and vital and have an abundance of energy and all those things. But before we get into that, take me to Japan, your recent trip. I'm really curious about what you discovered in the world of hydrogen over there.

[00:04:49] Greg: It has so much to do with what you just talked about. The amount of misinformation in America is just so bonkers that I literally had to go to the professionals. The real, real professionals in the world of hydrogen, you've never seen one do a podcast. Because that's not what they're doing.

[00:05:03] They're actual practicing physicians, actual doctors. I actually got to communicate with one of the top neurosurgeons, who is also a hydrogen specialist in Japan. In fact, the only machine that he recommends to his patients is the one that you use and the one that I use. It's the only one.

[00:05:18] He said he would never give his patients tablets, or those little cheap little bottles, or a lot of those Brown's gas devices that use chemicals like sodium hydroxide and stuff like that, due to safety reasons for the brain. Because they do a lot of brain scans. In fact, other medical professionals have actually been contacting me, especially gas specialists, medical gas specialists, which again, in America, you're just not seeing this yet, but it's coming.

[00:05:42] But I had to go to the source. And what I ended up having to do was, if you think that old hydrogen's created equal, you're totally wrong. It's like saying every car's created equal, which is not true. You can get one car, and it's a piece of crap, and it keeps falling apart. And you get another car, they'll go a million miles, and it's built well, usually a Japanese car. Because the Japanese are so next level.

[00:06:01] I almost have a question for you, Luke. How important to you are people, from 0 to 10? How much does it really matter? 10 being like, I would die for my country, or I would die for humanity. How important are people to you?

[00:06:15] Luke: I love people because, it seems obvious to me that we were created intentionally. Being as unique as we are in the animal kingdom, I think that people are such a reflection of God. Not that-- all living things in all of life in this earth realm obviously are all manifestations of creation, but humans are very unique in the sense that we seem to be put here for a reason.

[00:06:48] Greg: No, absolutely. But from a 0 to 10, how important is it to you, others?

[00:06:55] Luke: Speaking broadly, I would say I have a love for humanity in my own interpersonal life. I'm writing a book right now-- I'm just about finished with it-- about loneliness. And so I've been really looking at relationships a lot. At least for myself, I don't need that many close, intimate relationships. But the ones that I do need are indispensable. My wife, my couple of close friends, my family. There's nothing that means more to me than those people.

[00:07:28] Greg: I see. You didn't give a number though, but all I can-- okay. [Inaudible] 10.

[00:07:35] Luke: 10 out of 10.

[00:07:36] Greg: 10. There you go. For me, humans, even the people I don't know, just humanity in general, all people, good or bad, I care about all of them. After the near death experience, oh my God, it changed everything. Because God showed me the heart of man. And I know the difficulties that they're going through.

[00:07:55] But when I say a 10, that means that everything that I do, I'm thinking about others. For example, when I myself got sick and my life was on the line, my life was the most important thing at that moment. So I did everything that I could to basically try to get my life back and hopefully "not die," which I was already technically supposed to be dead.

[00:08:19] And I learned so much, it was really weird. I learned so much about life. In fact, I learned so much about life that it saved my life being on the other side. And I used those things in everything that I do from the water I drink. I learned everything about water by the way. I literally became a water specialist.

[00:08:39] In fact, certain people who've seen me on shows that run laboratories who've contacted me, they're like, "Man, you were right about everything you were saying about water." I was really impressed and more. In fact, there's certain people who I've helped with their medical issues. Because if you understand clean water, if you understand clean hydrogen and how to do it properly-- because you can harm yourself with hydrogen.

[00:08:59] You can harm yourself with vegetables if you're eating vegetables full of pesticides and herbicides and whatever else. How you produce something matters. And so that's why I ended up going to Japan, to learn every hydrogen production method possible, the good, the bad, talking to actual professionals. And that's when I realized that America, they're so wrong about so much information.

[00:09:21] In fact, I'll share one piece of information that is a huge problem in America right now, and that's hydrogen levels. Everybody's always giving these outrageous numbers. In my opinion-- because today I'm not going to give any medical advice, I'm not going to make any medical claims-- and I'm not going to make any claims for or against any products.

[00:09:36] But what I'm saying is when I looked at the levels, something wasn't right. So in Japan, of all the research I've done, there's only about four good machines out there, by the way. And they're all Japanese. I don't know if you find this interesting, Luke. Do you really think China has Americans, their health, in their best interest?

[00:09:54] Do you think China cares about Americans' health, their health? I don't think so personally. We've seen the craziness that they put in their foods. I've seen lab reports on green tea from China versus green tea from Japan. And the chemicals in them, it is just off the charts. It's crazy. And you know that almost every single hydrogen machine comes from China, and they try so hard to hide the fact too, that they're coming from there.

[00:10:16] I've seen people, they literally try to put a few pieces of machines together and put "Made in America" because they can legally do this now. And it's crazy. And I look indiscriminately, meaning I don't care what company. I don't care the name of a product. I'm going to look for the best because my life was on the line.

[00:10:33] And that's really what it comes down to. And I knew somehow-- in fact, I made a prayer about it when I was really sick, that whatever I would find, if I could save my own life, I was going to share with others. And I think right now, the whole reason that hydrogen's just totally out of control right now is because there's so many people that are sick right now. And that's when the vultures come out.

[00:10:54] Look at the amount of supplements out there. To be quite honest, I'm not a fan of most. I'm not saying there's no good supplements, but the majority of them, I'm not a fan. And I learned this from being-- people literally were trying to recruit me for different companies, just from watching my channel on YouTube.

[00:11:10] And when I found out what they're doing behind the scenes, the corners that they cut because they want to make bigger profits, it was so dirty that I just said no. I never got involved actually with any of these companies. In fact, I use almost no supplements. I've been doing blood work to make sure that my methods work because it's just been crazy.

[00:11:27] In fact, the blood work that I did the last time with this doctor who was a blood specialist of over 30 years, she actually told me, she said, "In all the years that I've done this," she goes, "not once." She goes, "And I'm a specialist. I've looked at thousands of people's blood work."

[00:11:39] She goes, "Never once." I thought maybe 10 times, 20. She goes, "Not once have I ever seen blood work like yours." She goes, "It's so unbelievable." She said, "I really want to know what you're doing." And then that's when doctors admit to me, because I've had a lot of them, where she basically said, "I have all these sick patients."

[00:11:54] So a lot of physicians and naturopathic physicians and all these people contact me and admit to me that either they're sick, or they have a lot of patients that are sick, and they can't help them. And the solutions are actually not as crazy as you may think, these protocols that I created.

[00:12:08] And I can tell you, just to give you some examples of things that I've seen, even the most recent ones, a woman who's almost 100 years old, she had three different heart conditions, and she was on pharmaceuticals for things like blood pressure. Her doctor told her, "You're just going to die. We can't do heart surgery on a woman who's almost 100 years old, blah, blah, blah."

[00:12:25] Somebody heard about me. She did my protocol, and I'm not kidding you, all her heart conditions are gone. Never had the surgeries. Off the pharmaceuticals. I even showed the emails from the doctor, the cardiologist, because they sent them to me. So I did a show on it. I did a whole testimonial video on my channel. And that's just one of many things.

[00:12:42] Just the other day, a guy who couldn't even stand up due to Parkinson's, I just released video footage of him walking. And this is the power of doing hydrogen properly, or not properly. Because when I was dying, I did try the hydrogen tablets, the little bottles. I actually did try Brown's gas. That one made me really sick.

[00:13:01] I tried a bunch of different stuff, and it just wasn't working. And I was so confused. Why isn't hydrogen working? I looked at the data, but I didn't realize-- I was so stupid. I didn't realize that how you produce it and how you use it matters. It's like telling somebody, "Hey, stay hydrated. Go ahead and drink tap water." It's like, no, that would be so stupid."

[00:13:21] Again, I'm literally a water specialist on top of hydrogen specialist. I have right here, a third-party lab report, actually. Check this out. This is crazy. So I have this third-party lab report about water. I've been seeing lab reports about water a lot. And brother, the amount of chemical, pages and pages of craziness in our water.

[00:13:43] And who do you think it affects the most? This is what bugs me, because we're talking about caring about people. Who do you think it affects the most? Babies, because their livers, their brains, their kidneys are not fully developed.

[00:13:55] And if you had even half a clue of what's in our water and how to clean it, by the way, because here's another thing-- normal water filtration does not work. It only takes out very few things. Anyway, that's a whole other subject because when you use hydrogen, especially hydrogen water, and then hydrogen gas, water's part of the whole thing.

[00:14:13] So we're using water as a carrier for the gas. And that's why I learned everything about water filtration. And then hydrogen production, the two best machines in the world are Japanese. One of them is $32,000, Luke, by the way. This is really fascinating. This 32,000-dollar machine, which is interesting because the amount of hydrogen that it produces-- and it's an inhalation machine-- is 250 milliliters per minute.

[00:14:38] Now, this is important because you see all these machines out there saying 600, 900 milliliters per minute. I don't believe it. And even if they produced these ridiculous amounts, which by the way, I should ask you, Luke, do you know what amount of hydrogen is used medically in university hospitals by professionals, by Japanese doctors?

[00:14:58] Because they use molecular hydrogen gas in about 30 university hospitals in Japan. Do you know what the levels they use are that are actually effective, safe, the whole deal? Do you know what levels they use?

[00:15:10] Luke: In milliliters per minute?

[00:15:12] Greg: Yeah, for the inhalation.

[00:15:13] Luke: Let take a wild guess. 200.

[00:15:18] Greg: You're really perfectly close. It's 130 to maybe a maximum of 250. But the number is actually 130.

[00:15:26] Luke: Wow. That doesn't sound like very much.

[00:15:29] Greg: And believe it or not, it's overkill. 130 is overkill. And so why in the world would you want a machine to make 600 or 900? Which is crazy too because you may think more's better. That's what I always thought. While I studied it, this is what was shocking to me. The higher levels of hydrogen that you're producing, the more impurities you're producing. And I was like, "What?"

[00:15:50] So you think that you're getting something better, but you really may not be. And let me tell you why. Because you got to turn up the power. So you turn up the power of a machine, more electricity. What do you think that's going to do to the metal? What do you think that's going to do to the membrane? What do you think it's going to do to the water? The more power begins to destroy those property, the metal, the membranes.

[00:16:11] And you don't even know what that stuff's made of, which I could tell you what it's made of because there's different metals. The science of metallurgy was on another one I had to learn. I had to learn so much to really figure this out, man. And nobody wants to tell you the truth. You are saying it's such a crazy world, and it's because of corruption.

[00:16:25] I'm sure you know that. It's because of money. It's not because they want the truth. I want the truth not only for myself and save my life, but also because I want to help others. And that's how much it means to me. A lot of people don't know this, but I turned down so much money from so many companies that wanted me to promote, whether it was their pills, or their bottles, or whatever, all these different products.

[00:16:45] But I wasn't going to do it because I know so much about hydrogen. I want the best for people. I can't live with that. When you go to the other side and you meet your maker, I promise you there's nothing that's hidden from him, nothing. I don't care how much you think you're going to hide from him. You're not hiding nothing.

[00:17:01] And when you are not honest, it's going to eat you up alive like you don't even know. It really is painful, actually. And so the best choice is to love each other. And that's what I love about Japan. In America they tend to put money above everything. The one thing I learned about the Japanese, honor.

[00:17:18] Brother, their honor is so important to them. That's the whole reason they would end their life. The whole thing, Semboku, where they take their life, it has to do with dishonoring either themselves, their family. Their standards are so high. And it's really impressive. And I didn't know the story of the guy who created this machine.

[00:17:37] The more I learned about it, brother, almost every time-- I'm going to try not to cry because the machine that changed my life and saved my life, which is the best hydrogen machine in the world, that machine was no accident. This guy's daughter, and this is so sad-- do you have any children, Luke?

[00:17:56] Luke: Uh-uh, no.

[00:17:56] Greg: Okay. This guy's first daughter was born sick. She was born with ALS, Lou Gehrig's disease, a very severe form. They're telling him she's barely going to live till three to five years old or something. It's heartbreaking. He's like, "I'll never get to see her go to college. I'll never get to see her get married."

[00:18:13] It's just so sad, man, when I connected to this. And I never thought I would meet a guy-- it was so wild because his story was similar to mine. My life was on the line. It wasn't his life. It was his daughter's life. And I don't know if you know this, Luke. This is really interesting. This guy bought every hydrogen machine there was. He knew about hydrogen. In Japan, it was really big many years ago, when it all began, and he bought everything.

[00:18:34] He bought those Kangens. He had the pills. He had the bottles. He had everything. He had all these devices. He went to the doctor, and he said, look, I've been reading this information about hydrogen. I want to give this to my daughter to see if it can help her in some way.

[00:18:47] And the doctor was like, "You can't give her any of that stuff." He's like, "Why not?" He said, "Do you realize that all these products you brought me could potentially end your daughter's life?" And he was like, "What? What are you talking about?" He didn't know about impurities when you make hydrogen gas. Any gas, by the way. Gases are so big, Luke.

[00:19:10] You can drink tap water, for example, and your stomach acids will deal with some of this stuff. Your liver will deal with some of this stuff. But when it comes to gases, when you go to a hospital and there's an oxygen tank, which is a gas, do you think that's just normal oxygen?

[00:19:23] That's medical grade oxygen. It has to be of such high purity because any impurity, especially when you're inhaling, it's going straight to your brain. This is a big deal, but nobody seems to really be interested, because sadly, it's like a lot of the world. It's about the money. I think that's why we see so many supplements out there too, all these supplement companies and always trying to sell something else. And it's very disappointing to me.

[00:19:47] It's very sad because some of the most powerful things for healing, in my opinion, is water, but super clean water. I don't want any garbage in my water. And the power of properly made hydrogen with proper levels, and then using it correctly, it's transforming. It's so amazing. If I were to name off-- some of the issues that I've seen disappear are things like high blood pressure, cholesterol issues, arthritis, glaucoma, macular degeneration.

[00:20:13] I've been working with people with MS and Parkinson's recently, who I told you just started walking. People with heart conditions, including myself. I had a major heart condition. It was supposed to kill me, and I'm still alive. In fact, the condition totally went away. Confirmed by my cardiologist. Actually an interesting one is I just got a brain scan, not for me, from a doctor who contacted me.

[00:20:31] They used the machine from  Holy Hydrogen because he actually is a medical gas specialist. And this is where things get important. What machines do these specialists use? And for this particular patient, he chose the  Holy Hydrogen machine. And he showed me the scans. He actually sent it to me. I got pictures of them, of a brain tumor before and after. It's gone. The brain cancer is gone.

[00:20:52] And this was imaging done at the Mayo Clinic. It was a really, really big deal. I've been even using this stuff for Alzheimer's and dementia, which the results have been shocking, including for TBI, traumatic brain injury. It's been huge. I had a woman call me who I helped with TBI, and she actually told me in private after I had helped her, six months down the road-- she called me and she said, "Thank you for saving my life."

[00:21:13] And I was like, "I didn't save your life. What are you talking about?" She said, what you don't know is that I was going to end my life. I was literally going to end my life within 24 to 48 hours. And you popped up on a show just like this one, Luke, and she said, and when I heard you, I just knew you were saying the truth.

[00:21:27] And I thought, what do I got to lose? And she had tried other products too, by the way. And so she got the  Holy Hydrogen machine. Totally fixed her. And she was so happy. And she sounded different because she could barely talk from her-- she had traumatic brain injury. And now she talks normal. Heck, maybe you should interview her.

[00:21:44] It was the stories, the things that have been happening. So in regards to the creator of this machine, I didn't understand until I did all the digging and led me to Japan. And this machine being the number one, it would've been so much easier if I would've just looked up the number one machine in the world, or Japan.

[00:22:00] But instead I was going off the science. I was researching the metals. I was researching the techniques. I was researching the membranes. I was researching all these different aspects of how to produce hydrogen. That led me to this. And then I didn't know. I love things that come from the heart.

[00:22:14] I love things that are real, that come from love. They surpass all amounts of money. They surpassed all this garbage. This guy was fighting for his daughter's life, and I didn't know. Did you know? This guy literally went to top companies in Japan because they have the best engineers in the world in regards to hydrogen.

[00:22:30] Did you know that to make the  Holy Hydrogen machine, Toyota was involved? Did you know that Yamaha was involved? Did you know that Kobe Steel was involved? It's like four or five huge companies, and it was never about the money. In fact, they advised him to go make it in China to save money.

[00:22:50] And he said, "No." He goes, "I will not cut corners. My daughter's life is on the line. You think I'm going to go cut a corner in China? I'm not going to let them screw this up." And so he's done something so unprecedented, something that nobody's ever done actually. Every single machine they make-- nobody in the world does this, by the way.

[00:23:07] There is no hydrogen company that does this. Every single machine is lab-tested and certified. Every single one of them. You know how crazy that is? You know how expensive that is? He does it because-- this is what he wrote to me. He said, "I care about people so much, and I've seen what this has done for my daughter."

[00:23:24] His daughter's almost 18 years old, Luke. She's the only person in the world ever to live as long as she has with all the issues that she was born with, the only one. He knows it was hydrogen that saved her. And I was so touched by this. He said, "I think I've realized the purpose of my life and the purpose for my daughter being sick, man." It's not even my daughter.

[00:23:46] And the guy, dude, I can't begin to describe to you, man. He said, "I won't cut corners. People can lie about me. They can lie about my product." People even attack me. You know that. People hate me saying the truth about this. He said, I'm not going to quit. I'm only going to bring the best, and I'm going to test every single machine, even though it'll cost me a fortune.

[00:24:07] And I love stuff like that, Luke. That's why I asked you, how much do you love your people? How much do you care about people? Because if everybody loved one another, just like Jesus said-- heck, they ask Jesus, what's the most important of all your teachings? He didn't say to go to church and give 10%.

[00:24:24] He said, "To love one another as I love you." Man, we do that-- and that's the thing about these products these days that drives me nuts. Because when they try to recruit me-- there was one company that wanted me to do supplements or something. When I saw the corners they were cutting to make them, I'm like, "Why are you guys doing this?"

[00:24:39] They said, "It's too expensive to do it to the purity that you want to do." And I'm like, "I don't want to be no part of this. I want to do stuff that's good for people. If it's a little more expensive, I don't care. If you guys take less profit, I don't care." If you're going to bring something to people, do it with love, man.

[00:24:54] Do with some integrity. Do it with some honor. And that's what I love about the Japanese. And that's what I love about this guy. And that's what I love about this product that ultimately saved my life.

[00:25:03] Luke: That's amazing, dude. What a great story. Yeah, I agree. I like what you said about the reality that we can't take any of the shit that we stack up with us. It's like all you take with you is your integrity, your character. You've had an NDE. We can get into that later. But the sense I get is that we come here as a soul, we take on a body and a life, and we're working through karma and all of the things that we do here based on our deeds, our actions. And then it seems to me to make sense that when we leave, all we take is the essence of our character, right?

[00:25:39] Greg: You do take something. You take all the good and all the bad that you've ever done to others in your life. And if you do bad things, brother, I promise you, because I saw it, you will feel every pain that you cause to anybody else. And that's the reason that I would never want to share some product just for money and say, "Hey, you should take this, this new supplement or whatever."

[00:26:02] I'm not going to do that. Unless I absolutely know that it's good for them and that I know that it was done the right way. Nothing that would ever harm somebody. That would make me sick. No amount of money can solve that because we're all going to die. We will all meet our makers. And the Japanese understand that, by the way.

[00:26:20] It's funny about the Japanese that people don't realize. I looked up the IQ of countries. Did you know you can look up the intelligence of a country? I looked up all the smartest countries in the world. Japan's the smartest country in the world, number one. Now, do you find it interesting, Luke, that the smartest country in the world also happens to have, for example, the longest living people in the world of any industrialized nation?

[00:26:44] Is there a correlation there? Are they so smart that they understand integrity? They also have really low crime rate. They're so nice there, dude. It's so clean. You know how clean these people are? They're obsessively clean. I'm actually a germophobe. I loved it. I love how clean they are because it's perfect for my type of life.

[00:27:04] I'm not saying Japanese are perfect. Nobody's perfect. But they strive for perfection. And that is the difference, man. And I love it. Their cars. This is why they were making cars that go a million miles when everybody else-- I don't know if you know the stories of Henry Ford.

[00:27:19] He was literally trying to find ways to make his cars break down. It's for profit. And by the way, in the world of hydrogen, it's no different. This is so shocking about what I learned about hydrogen production, the machines. They don't make hydrogen very long. But you'd never know, Luke, because when you use cheap metals, when you turn up the power too much-- if a machine really is making 600 or 900 milliliters per minute, which is just ridiculous, I'm concerned about the impurities.

[00:27:48] But the other problem is you're destroying the internal components, and you can't even see them. You don't even know. You see all these bubbles coming out. You think it's hydrogen. You actually might be making almost no hydrogen within six months to a year, to two years. The Hydrofix, the one from  Holy Hydrogen, which is really fascinating, they did understand this because nobody in the world actually seems to understand this.

[00:28:09] And America's going to find out probably in 10 years. It'll take way too long. Everybody bought all these machines, not getting results, not understanding why they're not getting results. The Hydrofix was tested after seven years of usage and was still making 97 to 98% of all the hydrogen gas made when it was new. It was almost functioning like new, which is unbelievable, Luke.

[00:28:29] Actually, nobody in the industry can do that. Nobody. Because it requires a certain type of technology, which I learned about, and they're doing stuff that nobody's ever done. It really is fascinating. And they're working on-- now I'm not at liberty to talk too much about this, but they're doing things with hydrogen, there's nobody in the world that even knows about it.

[00:28:48] They're doing some cutting-edge stuff that is blowing my mind. And when they shared it with me, I think they felt like they screwed up. They're like, "Oh, please don't talk about it." Because it's all patented and proprietary. And the machine that they have right now is already doing things that no machine out there does, by the way.

[00:29:02] It's not even close. The only close machine is that 32,000-dollar machine in Japan, and they would hate for me to bring this up. But basically, that machine was compared to the Hydrofix. And in the end, what's so bonkers, the Hydrofix outperformed it. It outperformed the second best machine that's $32,000.

[00:29:21] That's bonkers for the cheap price. And it makes both the water and the gas, which is important. You don't just want to be inhaling the gas. It doesn't really work as good as it should. The science is really important. This is really important because people are always confused about the water or the gas.

[00:29:38] They both actually do some of the same things, but they also do different things individually of themselves. And the protocol that I created, which ended up being copied by professionals and was proven to be the best method, I use a combination of the water and the inhalation. So I've created some protocols that are blowing up the whole hydrogen industry that, really, people don't know about. And so I'll be bringing some more of that in the future, but that's part of the protocols that really work.

[00:30:07] Luke: I like to do both. I do both every day. And I've been doing so for years, and I'm really glad to hear about the longevity of the Hydrofix because it's on our kitchen counter, and it's going all day, every day. That's the water we take. Which is one of the cool things about it. It's just on tap all the time.

[00:30:27] Greg: It's easy.

[00:30:28] Luke: Yeah, I don't have to go, "Oh, I got to go make some hydrogen water." And I can use my own clean water, as you said. 15 years ago, I think it was, I got the Kangen machine, and I was all excited about it, and then I realized I was using LA Tap water, going through a filter that's about three inches tall.

[00:30:46] Greg: Yes, yes.

[00:30:47] Luke: So I got rid of that. But yeah, I love that thing about the Hydrofix, is it's just nonstop all day. But until you mentioned the longevity, I thought, I don't know. I hope I don't wear it out by just letting it run all the time. So that's really good to know.

[00:31:02] Greg: Yeah. The longevity thing is huge than nobody's realized. Even people who sell machines, they don't even realize that their machines won't make hydrogen for very long, most likely. But I will say, with the Hydrofix, can it stay on standby and you can use them whenever you want? Yes. Do I do that?

[00:31:17] I don't like to do that because you can make the machine last even longer. But even if you ran it 24/7-- they actually did that study in Japan. This guy, the guy who created it-- did you know it's also the most scrutinized, lab-tested machine in the world? Nothing has gone through the testing of this thing because the guy knew that his daughter's life was on the line.

[00:31:40] Sometimes they would bypass it. She couldn't even drink the water. Sometimes they'd have to inject it into her. You can't do that by-- no offense. I'm not naming products, but you wouldn't want to do that with a hydrogen pill. Actually, I'm not even the one saying that. The doctor's the one who told him that.

[00:31:51] He goes, "Don't do that. Please don't do that to your daughter." And the purity had to be so high, and also the nano bubble technology. In fact, they had to go so far. Did you know that almost every machine out there uses DuPont membranes? Are you aware of this?

[00:32:05] Luke: Uh-uh.

[00:32:06] Greg: So DuPont, very bad chemical company. Their membranes really aren't so great, in my opinion, of course-- just from lab tests of what they're made of. And what they started doing is people figure this out. So they literally started changing the name and shipping them through some other company because they're so afraid of people knowing that they're using DuPont membranes.

[00:32:26] The Japanese already knew this, so the Hydrofix company, everything they've done, nobody in the world's done it. They spent ridiculous amounts of money, probably in the millions of dollars. They developed their own membrane. They're the only company in the world that has this membrane. And part of that special technology, the special metal technology too-- they have metal that nobody has.

[00:32:45] You never want to use a hydrogen machine, or I would just say I would never use a hydrogen machine that either uses stainless steel. Stainless steel is the worst metal you can use. You don't know anything about hydrogen if you're using that metal. Or coated or plated metals. You really don't want to do that either.

[00:33:00] That's what China does because it's cheap. This guy, his metal's all pure. There's no plated, no coated, super high-end metal. And then he did the same thing with the membrane. So he got a special type of membrane made of fibrous material. The nano bubbles that his technology makes, which is a huge part of the technology, and hydrogen actually being bioavailable to the body, that's a huge problem.

[00:33:24] You could have these crazy high levels and not really be getting what you're hoping you're getting out of something. That was another big thing that I learned. And the one that shocked me the most, how can they keep their machine making hydrogen for so many years without degrading like everybody else?

[00:33:37] Because they use a special, patented technology that uses super low amounts of electricity. See, nobody even thinks about the electricity. You run other machines, they're going to cost you a fortune in electricity. When you run the Hydrofix, it uses such a small amount on purpose with their proprietary technology so that it won't destroy the metal, so that it won't destroy the super high-end membrane.

[00:33:58] And so this high-end metal and high-end membrane with low electrical output, man, that puts out hydrogen day in, day out, day in, day out for years and years and years. Like a Toyota, they'll go a million miles. It's just untouchable.

[00:34:12] Luke: Let me jump to water really quick because I've heard you talk about-- because I'm a water fanatic too. I've done probably 10 shows all about water in different ways. I remember back in the day when I first got into the self-healing and whatnot, distilled water in glass was like all the rage. That's what all of us health nuts were drinking then.

[00:34:35] Then there was a war against distilled water, saying that it stripped your body of minerals. And then some of us got into collecting our own spring water, which I still do if I'm somewhere where the water's clean enough, etc. And you've got RO. You got all these different ways of doing it.

[00:34:54] But I've heard you talk about something that I've never heard of until you mentioned it, and that was, I think, carbon distillation. What is that, and how did you arrive at that? And how is it different from just a normal distiller? I have a distiller in there, and we drink that with deuterium depleted water as a mixture. I cycle through different waters. But tell me about this particular method.

[00:35:19] Greg: We could even get into deuterium depleted water. That's in a whole other concept. So here's the deal. Everybody and their mother was arguing about water for so long. They still do. You already know. They were like, "Oh, alkaline water. That's the answer. Spring water. No, that's the answer. Distilled water."

[00:35:35] And you know what's funny, is alkaline water was all the rage. And this is not to pick on the hydrogen tablets. They make the water super acidic. So now we're going from telling people that alkaline water was good. Now we're telling them acidic water's good. We're all over the place. Nobody can seem to figure out what the importance is.

[00:35:49] So I did a lot of my own critical thinking because I was like, "I'm tired of listening to so-called experts. I'm going to do my own thinking." So what do I want out of my water? I want it clean. That's what I want. I want clean water. I don't even care what pH it is. I just want it to be clean. So I looked at every water filtration modality in existence, and carbon distillation is basically a combination of distillation and carbon filtration.

[00:36:13] One of the other methods that I do is I'll take reverse osmosis water, put that in the distiller, and then you don't need the carbon anymore. When you use a combination like that, you remove everything. But the most important thing that distillation and carbon distillation does that most people don't even think about is removing pathogens.

[00:36:31] We're talking parasites, bacteria, mold, obviously pharmaceuticals, forever chemicals, fluorides. It removes everything. And then people get all like, oh my gosh. It removed everything. There's no minerals. I'm going to flip out. It's like you can add minerals to water. It's really easy. It's like you have to wipe the slate clean and then pick what you want to put in your water. Now I choose.

[00:36:51] And another thing that I found out in my research is people don't even know the difference between organic and inorganic minerals. So that's why sometimes some products that you take will be like, ooh, it has magnesium in it. It's good for you. Well, what magnesium? Because metallic magnesium, it's a metal.

[00:37:08] And so some of these things can either be good or bad for you, and they look like the same thing, like zinc. When I get the majority of my minerals and my nutrients, I get them from food. I literally take almost no supplements. And when I do my blood work, it's really important for my health because of the science and how I save my life-- is that when you have a certain nutritional deficiency, it leads to certain diseases.

[00:37:35] Deficiency in vitamin C will literally cause scurvy. How do you fix scurvy? You don't fix it with a pharmaceutical. You fix it with vitamin C. Just get your vitamin C levels up. So I wanted to make sure to have no deficiencies. And when I did my research, I found that that almost every single American is deficient in something-- everybody.

[00:37:51] That's why the lady who was doing my blood work, this doctor, when she saw my blood work and she called me and I flipped out when she called me-- because I worked in the medical field for 20 years, and when you get a call, it's-- you don't call people when there's good news. You only call with bad news. So I thought I was doing something wrong and I was like, "Oh my God, what'd you find out in my blood work?" But she was so impressed with it.

[00:38:09] She goes, "I had to call you. I've never seen one person--" She said, "You have no deficiencies." She goes, "You know how crazy that is?" She said, "What in the world are you doing?" She actually thought I was taking some type of secret pill. And I was like, "No, no secret pill. Clean my water."

[00:38:24] Hydrogen is helping me in such a major way to not only absorb nutrients, Luke, but when she asked me about my diet-- I follow very like Japanese-style diet-- she just about fell out her chair because she was like, "Wait a second, you eat like this?"

[00:38:39] And I don't like to talk about diet too much because it's like talking about religion. Everybody loses their mind. But the point is, is that when she found out how I ate, she said that's impossible. There is no way you have no deficiencies, and that's how you're eating." And then she said, "Let me guess. You've been eating like this for, I don't know, a couple of months or six months."

[00:38:55] I said, "It's been about a decade." She's like, "What?" And she got me questioning, how in the world am I doing this? And you know what I found, Luke? This is not a claim. It's just preliminary information data that I found that seems to be what my body's doing. I got my body to produce a whole bunch of its own nutrients, about 40% of them.

[00:39:15] And it has to do with a gut microbiome. That's why they're putting stuff in our water. That's why there's stuff in the air. That's why there's all these chemicals. It's designed to ruin your gut, and almost 80% of our immune system is in our gut. And then you look at what hydrogen does for the gut, oh, forget about it.

[00:39:30] I've worked with people who spend hundreds of thousands of dollars, by the way, and they thank me so much because it was so cheap. They've had Crohn's disease, celiac disease, IBS, leaky gut, all sorts of gut issues. And so far I've been [Inaudible] 1,000. Everybody ended up overcoming their issues.

[00:39:46] And it was just so sad that they had to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars, which is a ton, and not really get any help. And just a simple little device. The guy who created this, I'm sure when he goes to heaven, he's going to be just fine.

[00:40:00] Luke: Stoked. What about different applications of the gas, like using it in your eyes, with the goggles? I've got some goggles. There's earphones. One idea I had-- I want to see if you've heard of anything like this on the horizon-- and this could be the dumbest idea ever, but I know you and I have done a fair share of hyperbaric oxygen therapy. And I wondered if it would be possible-- I know it's--

[00:40:30] Greg: Hyperbaric hydrogen? Flammable.

[00:40:34] Luke: I actually tried this once in LA now that I think about it. I ran my hydrogen gas machine into the hyperbaric chamber with the cannula to try to breathe it like I would from the oxygen concentrator. I'm not that good at physics, so what happened was the pressure in the tank built up and then it just blew the hose out because there wasn't enough pressure coming from the hydrogen machine, if you know what I mean.

[00:40:56] Because you have a compressor on a hyperbaric chamber that pushes the air strong enough, so the chamber doesn't push it back and so on. But what are some of the other ways that we're currently able to use hydrogen, the gas, or things that you see coming down the pike that are interesting?

[00:41:14] Greg: Yeah. So it's interesting that you bring that up because I've actually had medical gas professionals that work with hyperbarics contact me. The reason they contacted me is because when they did all the research on hydrogen, they wanted the best, and they actually found the Hydrofix. They also found a 32,000-dollar Japanese machine.

[00:41:32] So those are the two best machines that are out there. And that's actually what some of these medical people found. And they saw my channel, and they reached out to me with questions and whatnot. I think it's going to be something in the future. As far as putting goggles on, here's a really bad problem with doing that.

[00:41:49] And I've seen a lot of companies do that, and I think it's actually extremely dangerous, depending on the machine that you're using. So my protocols, for example, are dependent on the equipment that I use for many reasons, including dosing. So you need to know how much it makes in order to know how much to dose and whatnot.

[00:42:08] So all these things are really important. There are certain machines that I've seen where they put the goggles and stuff, and man, I would never do that in a million years with certain equipment. In fact, one of my protocols, and this is really important-- have you heard of the Neti Pot?

[00:42:22] Luke: Yeah, sure.

[00:42:22] Greg: Yeah. So have you heard about people dying from using the Neti Pot?

[00:42:26] Luke: No.

[00:42:27] Greg: Yeah, so you should research this because the reason that they died was not because of the Neti pot. It's because they didn't read the directions. The directions specifically say to only use distilled water. Why? Why would it have to be distilled water, Luke? Because it has no parasites, no bacteria, no pathogens, all this garbage that you could be running through your sinuses.

[00:42:46] And the reason that people died is because they got a little worm, little parasite in their brain that literally started eating away at their brain and they didn't know. And then six months later, they're not thinking straight. They get a scan. Huge chunk of their brain's missing. This is how important the purity of water is, and also gases.

[00:43:01] I can't emphasize it enough. I'm a purist, brother. That's something that's really important to me and to the Japanese. They're the same way, really. And so when it comes to what you're talking about, one of my protocols for the eyes-- so I've worked with people with macular degeneration, glaucoma, cataracts, all sorts of different eye issues with great success, by the way.

[00:43:19] The eyes are part of the brain. And the success was so good, I couldn't even believe it. These patients of these doctors, they're like, "How did you accomplish this?" And then they tell them about me. I remember one of the guys apparently was like, this guy on YouTube? This is how you did this? No way."

[00:43:37] They couldn't believe it. And it's not really me. It's the beautiful hydrogen machine that the Japanese created. It's something special. But here's one of the eye protocols, Luke. You take a little cup. Have you ever seen these little cups that you put over your eyeballs with water?

[00:43:51] Luke: Yeah.

[00:43:52] Greg: Yeah. So you would never want to do this. Please don't do this with other devices. I urge people. Because I've had too many people try to modify my protocols, and I've seen people get harmed pretty bad. I've seen some pretty bad stuff in the world of hydrogen, of people harming themselves. You'd have to use carbon distilled water.

[00:44:07] There's no other water you'd ever want to do this with. And you'd never want to use any hydrogen. Please don't do this-- can you imagine, Luke, dropping a hydrogen tablet, putting this on your eyeball? No, don't do that. Please don't do that. Or a Brown's gas device that uses chemicals. I would never do that.

[00:44:22] You take the cleanest hydrogen you can possibly make, which I would only use a Hydrofix for this and the cleanest water. And once you have that, you can put that kind of stuff over your eyeballs. You can even put drops in your ears. So I have done a lot of these types of protocols, and shocking how good it works. Shocking.

[00:44:39] Because macular degeneration will lead to blindness. And by the way, there is no cure according to modern-day science. But I've already had multiple people, their macular degeneration disappear, by the way. And a lot of lung issues too. So many things. It really is unbelievable. It's hard to believe, but-- yeah, go ahead.

[00:44:58] Luke: Yeah, that's very cool. I never thought of applying the water to the eyes. I have a Axiom H2 machine here on my desk, and when I find my eyes get fatigued, I put on the goggles, and it feels great. It's very rejuvenating. I haven't looked that deeply into it. I just go off the results, and it seems to work. But I still appreciate your perspective on it. Let's talk about--

[00:45:20] Greg: Yeah, that one's made in China, by the way. They do use that DuPont membrane that a lot of people don't like to mention, but the purity aspect.

[00:45:30] Luke: Cool. That's good to know. I appreciate that. Okay. You've talked a lot about the results that many people get using hydrogen. But maybe it would be helpful to talk about how it works as a selective antioxidant, the issues of free radicals, oxidative stress.

[00:45:56] And where I'm going with that is toxic blue light exposure and non-native EMF exposure, which to me are equal to, if not greater, than eating toxic food or drinking toxic water. And I think that's one of the most interesting things about hydrogen, is how it can protect us from some of these things that are difficult to avoid.

[00:46:18] Greg: Yeah, it actually protects you from a ton of stuff. And there's some new research now that I've uncovered that nobody in the world really knows about yet. But what I've discovered is there are certain things that we take in life, a lot of them, even sadly, from certain supplements, even including hydrogen ones, but also things like Tylenol, by the way. Because this is a big subject that's come up about Tylenol, so I'm going to disclose it here first on your channel.

[00:46:43] What people don't realize is that when you use Tylenol-- and you can do this research, by the way-- it doesn't just have all the negative side effects that people are telling you about. It actually depletes you of specific nutrients or causes issues with nutrient absorption.

[00:46:57] And overcoming nutritional deficiencies is so important because one of the number one doctors in the world that researches Vitamin D discovered that when you go through something traumatic, maybe a car accident or something, you deplete your body of half of all the vitamin D you have in roughly 60 seconds.

[00:47:13] So your body utilizes nutrients, minerals, all sorts of stuff to actually protect you. So that's why when you come bombarded with something, it depletes you. But when you have hydrogen, what I've noticed is it appears to me that the hydrogen actually is the one taking the hit so that your nutrients don't have to.

[00:47:32] And that's so crucial because now you keep your nutrients up, your body can keep going, and hydrogen is your protector. And I feel the difference massively. When I go away for a week and don't have my hydrogen, man, I feel it big time. And I'm not the only one. My mother was a huge skeptic, and I had to buy her a hydrogen machine, and she's a believer now for sure. She tells me the same thing every time she leaves and she comes back. She's always like, "You know what? I need my water. Where's my hydrogen water? Where's my Hydrofix?"

[00:48:00] Luke: I travel with mine, dude. If it's over a week, 100%, I'm not going to go without it.

[00:48:08] Greg: And it's so small. They made it so small and easy to use and easy to maintain. They really made it super easy, which is really important too, because actually, you brought up the Axiom machine. One of the things that the Japanese realized it, that is a sealed system, so it's just like a box.

[00:48:22] And the problem with the sealed system that the Japanese found, this is why they made the Hydrofix the way they did-- this is how I learned about all the engineering in hydrogen production. I don't like any sealed units now. Because what do you think happens with moisture? What do you think happens with water?

[00:48:36] They start growing mold. And you can't see it because it's inside a machine. And if the membrane never falls apart, you don't know it either. So you don't even know. You don't get to see what's going on inside a machine. What the Hydrofix people did is they made everything open. That's why you can see the metal. That's why you can see the membrane. You can see everything, and you're supposed to clean it.

[00:48:56] They teach you how to clean it because you will grow stuff. In fact, it's one of the reasons Luke-- this maybe will answer one of your questions about your own machine-- when you lift up the little lid to put water in it, the machine has no holding tank. Did you notice that?

[00:49:09] Luke: Yeah.

[00:49:10] Greg: Yeah. Your Axiom has a holding tank. You know why the Japanese didn't put a holding tank? For the very reason I just told you. It starts growing stuff in it. So they specifically wanted a machine that has no holding tank, so you're always cycling the water like a river that keeps it clean. It's all about cleanliness. It's all about purity. So they were smart. The thing is brilliant.

[00:49:31] Luke: Wow. You just reminded me. I haven't cleaned my Hydrofix in a really long time.

[00:49:35] Greg: Dude, it's so important. You'll grow stuff in it. You'll wipe it, and you'll see it on the cloth. It's so important to keep your hydrogen machine clean. And one of my best videos is Video 426. You should watch it. I show all the do's and don'ts, how to take care of the machine so that it will go a million miles, like a really great Toyota.

[00:49:53] Luke: All right. I need to do that. Is there anything else on the EMF as related to oxidative stress and so on? I think that many of us don't, myself included, really understand what free radicals are, oxidative stress. These are like some of the main drivers of disease, and we don't even know how they work or how to deal with them. And I know that's one of the primary benefits of hydrogen.

[00:50:19] Greg: Oh, absolutely. Yeah. So yeah, if you get exposed to radiation, obviously it's really bad for you. All you got to do is look at astronauts. Astronauts in outer space, in 24-hour period, get the same amount of radiation in one day that we get in six months if you were standing outside all day long on planet Earth.

[00:50:35] So that's a lot of radiation. And hydrogen appears to be very, very protective. In fact, it's so protective, they utilize it, for example, when they do chemotherapy. Did you know that they utilize hydrogen for that in Japan in a lot of cases? I actually knew a patient. She had terminal breast cancer.

[00:50:52] It spread all over. They told her she's going to die in three or four months or something. And they use hydrogen in collaboration with some of the cancer treatments because the results change dramatically. So anybody who would have cancer, in my personal opinion, you'd be a fool not to get on hydrogen.

[00:51:09] Hydrogen will help the outcome dramatically lower a lot of the negative side effects too. And the big thing is, Luke, it's not just EMF by the way. We're bombarded everywhere. There's stuff in your clothes. There's stuff in the air. There's stuff on the paint on the walls. There's stuff everywhere.

[00:51:24] There has never been a more important time in history, in my opinion, to protect yourself. And there's nothing that protects you better, in my opinion, than hydrogen. You could literally walk through some crazy amount of radiation, and if you're a guy full of hydrogen like myself, I'm going to walk out of there better than anybody else that doesn't have hydrogen.

[00:51:41] No question. Just watch my video number 8. On my video number 8, I actually show cells that have been bombarded with radiation versus one, same exact thing, but with hydrogen. You get 90% cellular damage from radiation or chemo. And when you had the hydrogen, you only got 10%. That's a massive difference. 10%, you can walk away from.

[00:52:05] Luke: Wow.

[00:52:06] Greg: You don't walk away from 90% very easily.

[00:52:08] Luke: Wasn't there a study wherein they exposed some lab mice to high levels of radiation and did a control group where one of them was having hydrogen into their little tank and the other one wasn't? Or am I imagining that?

[00:52:25] Greg: No, no, that's real. In fact, I wish I had the footage for you. They had a really big box with a bunch of mice. They had a wall to separate them, and the ones that were being bombarded-- they were all being bombarded with radiation, and they had hydrogen water, or they would do hydrogen gas too. And basically the ones that were getting the hydrogen were running around.

[00:52:41] Their body temperatures were good. They were having good bowel movements. They were all having fun. And then the other ones were not as active. In fact, they were all huddling close together in a little corner. They're probably not feeling very warm there. Their temperature wasn't good. They weren't having good bowel movements.

[00:52:56] So, no, it's dramatic. No, it's so dramatic that one of the things I want to do is-- I doubt he'll listen to this, but I really wish Elon Musk would hear this interview because I don't believe that you can make it to Mars without this type of technology. Because you're exposed to way too much radiation on such a long journey, you're going to get there sick. You're going to get there falling apart.

[00:53:16] Luke: I don't believe you can get there at all. That's [Inaudible] podcast.

[00:53:17] Greg: Oh, okay. You need to protect yourself from radiation if--

[00:53:25] Luke: I see your point though.

[00:53:26] Greg: --you're going to try to make such a journey, for sure.

[00:53:29] Luke: 100%. Let's talk about mitochondria. This is a big buzz word. I think many of us are starting to understand that our metabolic health is dependent on that. Everything we need energy for is dependent on mitochondria. What do we know about the relationship between hydrogen and mitochondria?

[00:53:47] Greg: Yeah. Just like you said, science is starting to realize that mitochondrial dysfunction is causing a lot of medical issues. And ironically, one of the very first studies ever done on hydrogen was actually done by a mitochondrial specialist. He's not really a hydrogen specialist. I know he is touted out there as a hydrogen specialist.

[00:54:07] But when I went to Japan to learn, he's not a hydrogen specialist. He's a mitochondria guy. But mitochondria is super, super important, and hydrogen is amazing for mitochondria. And so, yeah, simply put, it's so good for so many things, Luke. It's almost hard to pin it down because it's unbelievable.

[00:54:25] Like I said, most of my protocols, they involve really clean water. They involve really clean hydrogen. And then I show people how to overcome nutritional deficiencies, but I also show them how to minimize or get rid of parasites. And that's been a big one too, because they get in the way.

[00:54:39] They actually create more free radicals too, which is not good. And they also rob you of nutrients also. Yeah, hydrogen is absolutely impressive, extremely impressive for mitochondrial function. I just think it's the biggest no-brainer ever other than clean water.

[00:54:54] I think clean water and clean air is another one. It's a little ironic because-- I'm not going to talk about it a lot-- but when I did have my NDE, my near death experience, God told me a ton of stuff. I did get lucky enough to meet "God," which changed my whole life.

[00:55:09] Everything's out the window now. I know He exists. It's real. He's there. But I remember one thing that he told me. It was really interesting. He said, "First of all, as humanity--" He started giving me guidelines for humanity. And I thought that was so weird. Like, why would you tell me? I'm not the president. I have no power. I'm nobody.

[00:55:23] But what he showed me was, he said, "First of all, you guys have too many rules as humans." And I was like, "Too many rules?" "All these laws," He said, "makes everybody guilty." And then I thought, that's interesting. So I looked it up later, and I found out that everybody breaks the law every single day, multiple times a day, without even knowing it.

[00:55:39] There's just too many laws. Nobody even knows them. You need lawyers. Even lawyers don't even know all of them. They have to go look stuff up. It's ridiculous. And so that's the first thing he told me. And then he said, "You need to keep things simple." And he said, "The number one law that you should have--" And I thought this was interesting. He said, "Any action that a human takes, if it will harm the air or the water, don't do it."

[00:56:03] That's your number one rule. Don't harm the air or the water. And I thought that's really fascinating because it's going to affect us as humans no matter what, if you harm the air or the water. And then it even got me thinking some crazy stuff about what Jesus even said.

[00:56:15] When Jesus was talking to Nicodemus, and Nicodemus was asking him about how to get to God and all this stuff, Jesus basically said, you got to be born again of water and of spirit. But a lot of people don't know that the word spirit also can mean air or wind, which is the gas.

[00:56:31] Air is a gas. And so ultimately he was talking about water and air, which is crazy that I was told the same thing when I was on the other side. And then even crazier, Luke, when I went to Japan. Have you ever heard of a religion called Shinto?

[00:56:45] Luke: Yeah, I have.

[00:56:46] Greg: Shinto is the oldest, original Japanese "religion." And then they have a secret sect. I got really lucky to find this out. They have a secret sect of Shintoism that almost nobody knows about. It's really ancient. They keep it really tight. You know how Japanese are. They really come almost secretive. And Shinto, their number one rule in all their religion is don't harm the air or the water. I was like, "What?"

[00:57:09] Luke: Really?

[00:57:10] Greg: Yeah. And I learned so much from the Japanese. I told you, they live the longest. They're the smartest country. They make the best hydrogen in the world. They also have literally the best tap water in the world. They value water on a level that I don't think people even comprehend.

[00:57:24] I didn't even know. I didn't understand how much they not only love water, but how they treat it and all the different things that they can do with it. Oh my gosh, the things that they can do with it. It's unbelievable. I had no idea the different waters that they use for different cooking, for rice or for making a soup, all sorts of different stuff. It was bonkers. They're master chefs. They're masterful when it comes to culinary. They're unbelievable people. Really impressing.

[00:57:49] Luke: That's really interesting. One of the things on my bucket list is to do a tour of Japanese hot springs. They have a lot of geothermal activity there.

[00:58:01] Greg: Dude, they're everywhere.

[00:58:03] Luke: Yeah. I'm not interested in going to Tokyo. I not interested in going to any cities, but I would like to go just tour and just only go to hot springs. Spend a month and just hit every one possible. I've looked them up online. They look like they have some incredible, natural springs there.

[00:58:19] Greg: I've already done it. And that's one of the reasons that--

[00:58:22] Luke: Really?

[00:58:23] Greg: Oh yeah, dude. I love water. I'm a water guy. I absolutely love clean water, I love hot springs, and I love hydrogen. And clean food. In fact, it's one of the reasons that I want to move there permanently, because I've looked at all these places in the world where I'd want to be, but there's one thing that I need.

[00:58:37] I need clean water, and I need good air. And those hot springs, brother, they're so healing. I was literally living right next to a hot spring. I was going there three times a day. I'd go in there in the morning to bathe. I'd go in the middle of the day, and I'd go bathe at night before I went to bed. And then I would inhale my hydrogen before I went to bed.

[00:58:53] Brother, I felt so freaking good. I still feel really good, but I loved it. And so I am going to move there permanently in the near future because that's how important my body is to me, and my health is. It's now the highest thing on the list because the better that I am, the better I can be to help others.

[00:59:10] That's all there is to it. If you're miserable and unhealthy and unhappy, that's all you spread in the world. And so you have to be at your best if you want to give your best to others. And I believe that if everybody did that, the world would be a better place.

[00:59:24] Luke: 100%. We were about to get into deuterium depleted water earlier. What's your take on that whole concept considering it so directly related to mitochondria?

[00:59:35] Greg: Yeah. In my opinion, I just think it's a waste of money. And I'll tell you why. Because not only is it extremely expensive, but here's the thing. Tere's a specialist that reached out to me. He's actually a deuterium specialist. That's literally his specialty. And he uses the Hydrofix too, which is so hilarious, the  Holy Hydrogen machine.

[00:59:53] I had a theory, and he came up with the same thing. He said, "Basically, when you start taking in the ripe hydrogen," he said, "it's going to displace the deuterium." So it's going to balance it all out to the point where you don't really need to be drinking deuterium depleted water. It's completely unnecessary. So he doesn't even use deuterium depleted water, and he's a specialist.

[01:00:12] Luke: Really interesting. Yeah. Because what we're talking about here is molecular hydrogen, which is obviously hydrogen is in water, as we know. And this deuterium is just another form of hydrogen that, for whatever reason, is really abundant in the world, especially if you buy a coast and you eat a lot of sugar and fruit.

[01:00:33] And people that live in higher altitudes, there's less deuterium in the air, in the water and the food, and so on. So it's always been really interesting to me, but it's also strange that this heavy hydrogen deuterium is really bad for you.

[01:00:48] Greg: Yeah.

[01:00:49] Luke: And just another form right next door is hydrogen that's really good for you. So it makes sense on a very basic level that there would be some balancing effect there if you're constantly saturated with the good hydrogen, that it's going to have an impact on the buildup that you've accumulated over your life there too.

[01:01:08] Greg: Let me tell you why, because my theory was exactly the same as this guy's. And I came up with it actually many years before he did. And when he contacted me, I told him about it. And he goes, "I was just thinking about that." Because basically, deuterium, the body gets confused by it. It thinks it's just normal hydrogen. And that's why it can have potentially the negative impact that it has.

[01:01:28] And so when you use the right type of hydrogen-- one thing I've learned about hydrogen, it appears to me that it brings balance to the body once again, and really homeostasis. And I don't think people understand that either. Health is about balance. I don't need to be drinking three gallons of water in one hour. It'll kill me.

[01:01:45] So you don't want too much water. You don't want too little water. Everything's about balance. Same thing goes for the amounts of hydrogen in everything. Because too much hydrogen, by the way, can displace oxygen. So you really don't want even too much. That's why I have protocols on exactly the amounts.

[01:01:59] That's why the Hydrofix making 130 or 120-something milliliters per minute is literally perfect. People keep thinking more is better. It's not always the case, in my opinion, and based on a lot of research. And so it brings this equilibrium again of the proper hydrogen.

[01:02:14] That's why molecular hydrogen appears to also be selective in nature. So it's like a selective antioxidant. It's not no normal antioxidant, Luke. In fact, did you know that antioxidants have different sizes? So if you look at the size of vitamin C versus the size of vitamin E versus glutathione versus CoQ 10, they're all different sizes, and hydrogen's tiny compared to all of them, which is what gives it its power because it can penetrate any part of the body.

[01:02:39] If you've got free radicals deep in the brain, you don't need to worry about the blood-brain barrier. It'll go right through the blood-brain barrier. And in fact, there's a really great clinic in Japan that specializes in Alzheimer's and dementia. And I got some scans from them. In fact, I put them on my YouTube channel.

[01:02:56] They were actually using the Hydorfix in the clinic. Because the Japanese know that that's the best machine, pretty much. They were using it on these people with dementia and Alzheimer's, and it was unbelievable what it was doing in regards to-- one of the things that they were testing was thermal imaging. So the way that it creates blood flow.

[01:03:13] Blood flow is really important for life. In fact, when you see a little child, a little toddler, have you ever noticed they can run around in the diaper and they feel totally fine? They're warm. That's because of really good blood flow, obviously. And when people get old, they're all cold.

[01:03:27] And the Japanese discovered actually, in cancer research that almost every single cancer patient has lower core body temperatures than they're supposed to have. So they found that there's a correlation between body temperature and health. And when you use the Hydrofix, they actually proved it.

[01:03:43] No other machine has ever proven this, by the way, to increase core body temperature. And so it's the only machine that was tested through thermal imaging. Again, it's the most tested machine in the world. Nothing's ever been so scrutinized, from purity to the amounts of hydrogen, to the effects that it has, and everything else.

[01:03:59] Luke: That's really interesting about the blood flow and the body temperature. I didn't know that.

[01:04:03] Greg: Watch my video 68. I show a live blood analysis of how it moves the blood.

[01:04:09] Luke: Oh, cool.

[01:04:09] Greg: Yes. And I literally had a doctor who watched the video, and she literally said, she goes, "That's impossible." She goes, "You're literally lying to people." So she bought a Hydrofix. She took it to her own lab. She repeated the test, and she was trying to prove me wrong, and she just proved me right.

[01:04:22] It did work. And she was so blown away, she started giving it to her mother, who was almost 100 years old. And that's another testimonial that's really wild. It totally fixed her mom. And this doctor had given her mom every supplement you could think of. She was a MD, but she believed in a lot of the supplements and stuff.

[01:04:41] And really nothing was working that well for her mother. And when she started giving her the Hydrofix hydrogen, oh my gosh. Even her mother. She told me her mom's testimonial. Her mother was like, "I don't know what you're giving me, but whatever this is, this is it. But it looks like water."

[01:04:54] She goes, "What are you giving me?" And that's when she told her mom. She goes, "It's hydrogen, mom." And she's like, "Hydrogen?" So it totally transformed her life too. It's been unbelievable.

[01:05:04] Luke: One of the cool things about hydrogen in general versus trying to make radical changes to your diet, taking a million supplements and so on, is that you're going to be drinking water anyway. You know what I mean? And you're also going to be breathing anyway. I think that's why hydrogen in general has been something really easy for me to habituate.

[01:05:24] A, obviously, I see the benefits, so I'm going to keep doing it even if it was some work. But it's something that you can do passively. It doesn't require a regimen or to build a really difficult habit. It's just like, I sit at my desk. I inhale some hydrogen. I go in the kitchen. I pour some hydrogen water.

[01:05:43] It's just an all-day thing, every day. And it's stuff that I would be doing anyway, literally. The only difference is I put on a cannula, or I reach to a different place in the kitchen to get the water. It's like, I'm already there. It's not like--

[01:06:00] Greg: It is easy.

[01:06:01] Luke: [Inaudible] muscle or lose weight, you got to go work out. It's such a stretch for some of us, including myself because you got to go do something that you wouldn't normally be doing. Whereas hydrogen is just like, you're just changing the way you're already doing something that you have to do anyway.

[01:06:17] Greg: And of course, you probably have already experienced this since you've tried multiple pieces of equipment. I tried a ton of different equipment too. Some of them are really hard to use, and they're annoying. And some of them are even really dirty. You literally use chemicals in some of them, which I'm like, total-- in my opinion-- stupidity.

[01:06:32] I would never do that when it comes to inhaling a gas. But with the Hydrofix, you probably noticed, it's just a pitcher. It makes it so easy to drink this water. And this is a story I don't like to share much. I won't name his name. There's somebody that I knew who didn't want to change their diet. They didn't want to change anything in their life, and they had all sorts of medical problems.

[01:06:49] They had things from high blood pressure, cholesterol issues, diabetes, actually. They even had arthritis, all these type of issues. And this particular person was like, "Look, I don't want to do everything that you do. I don't want to eat healthy and do all this stuff." He goes, "But I am willing to clean the water, the whole carbon distillation."

[01:07:06] In fact, if people want to know what I use, it's a website called mypurewater.com. And if they want to discount code, of course, the name of my channel's Uprising 144k, if they want do that. But that's what I use.

[01:07:16] Luke: I'll put that in the show notes at lukestorey.com/hydrogen, for people that want to check that out. I'm going to check it out too. Actually, now that I think about it from what you said earlier, I'm using reverse osmosis water in the distiller that I have anyway. Is that achieving the same thing that you're getting with that particular distiller?

[01:07:38] Greg: Yes. The answer is yes. So if you put RO water in your distiller, your water's going to come out clean. And the science of distillers is not complicated. It's not like hydrogen. Hydrogen is way more complicated to make a good machine. You can get a cheap Chinese distiller if you want to for 2, 300 bucks.

[01:07:58] The reason that I use the mypurewater.com ones are they're American-made, they are better-made, and dude, they last a lifetime. I run mine 24/7. I could point the camera to it right now. It's literally right next to me, right here. I just shut it off for the interview, but it's always making my water.

[01:08:12] And so you can use any other distiller, if you want to. But if you put RO water in there, you're accomplishing the same thing. You don't necessarily need the carbon at the end. It's just that the combination is necessary in order to completely clean your water. Because there are certain things in your water that are actually gases.

[01:08:30] The chlorine in it technically is a gas. And so the distillation can only get rid of certain things. That's why the combination's so important to get rid of everything. I really want my water as clean as possible.

[01:08:41] Luke: Cool. right. Take me back to the guy that didn't want to change anything.

[01:08:45] Greg: Oh yeah, that was wild. So what he ended up doing was I showed him how to clean the water completely-- carbon distillation, mypurewater.com. Then I got him a hydrogen generator from  Holyhydrogen.com. And that's all he did. He didn't change anything else. He continued to go to restaurants, eat cheeseburgers, French fries, drink beer, drink wine, live his life.

[01:09:04] Brother, I couldn't believe it. All his medical issues went away except for one. He had a eye condition that didn't go away right away. But all his issues went away in six to eight months. And that, I actually didn't think it'd work, if I'm really honest with you. I thought there's no way that he can live his life like that and these issues go away.

[01:09:19] And that's when I saw the real power of hydrogen. Just like another woman that I worked with who had diabetes, by the way, they had tried inferior forms of hydrogen, which gives hydrogen a bad name because you try, I don't know-- look, it doesn't matter.

[01:09:35] These are all over the place, and there's no name brand on this, but these little bottles or these little, cheap Chinese products, people try those because they're cheap. And I get it. I did the same thing when I first started because I didn't understand that how you make hydrogen matters.

[01:09:48] And so they were going to give up on this stuff, and when they finally did it right, that's when I saw the true power of clean water and clean proper levels of hydrogen. It's absolutely blown my mind at this point. You should see what it does for-- so on a lot of these products, they literally will say, "Don't give them to pregnant women."

[01:10:04] But if the hydrogen is made properly, like super, super clean, you can use it for women and children and stuff like that, which really nobody wants to say. Even some of the products that you-- I've seen you actually support some of these products. If you look at their own website, it literally says, not for human consumption. Why would they say that? And they're telling you to give it to humans. It's bonkers. It's absolutely not. I'm not kidding you, man. I'm not kidding you.

[01:10:26] Luke: That's interesting. That's a good point. Whenever I see that, I'm just like, "Oh, they're just covering their ass because the regulatory agencies are so out of control." But that's a good point.

[01:10:35] Greg: No hydrogen company puts that on their labels except for-- I won't even begin to name the products. But they're covering their butt for a reason, Luke. It's not because you won't see these issues when you're making hydrogen correctly. There's no fear. Hydrogen gas is more pure than oxygen. In deep sea diving, they actually use more hydrogen.

[01:10:55] They use almost no oxygen because oxygen can be toxic to the body, by the way. Any doctor can tell you, you don't want to be using too much oxygen. That's why when you do hyperbarics and stuff, you can only do so much. You don't want to do a ton, because oxygen's oxidizing. It's oxidative. There's benefits to it, but too much of it's not good either. Again, all about balance, right?

[01:11:16] Luke: Yeah.

[01:11:16] Greg: But hydrogen's really unique. And there was a woman, it was a really amazing story. She had two children without hydrogen. She found out about me and she got on the cleanest water, the cleanest hydrogen. And man, the way that third baby was born, she got back to me, she goes, "This is unbelievable. My third baby is so different than my other two kids. I never had any of the issues that I had with the other kids as far as--" She had preeclampsia, and she started having a lot of issues, including during birth.

[01:11:41] None of those issues when she used hydrogen. It was totally crazy. And she said, "The third baby is so at peace, doesn't cry. The happiest of all the babies." That just shows you the importance of what the human body needs. The body needs to be hydrated with clean water. The body clearly needs hydrogen. The body even produces hydrogen on its own. Mostly in the gut, but we also produce actually some hydrogen in our cells, by the way. That's very hard to detect.

[01:12:06] And so our body produces it, but as we age, we make less and less. So it's like a nutrient in a lot of ways. And when you get it back up, uprising, rise it up again, it really begins to affect every aspect of your life, especially from what I've noticed, even things like, yes, with the free radicals, yes, the anti-inflammation.

[01:12:24] All the things that it does that is magical about hydrogen. But even things that you wouldn't think about, like the ability to absorb nutrients better, or even produce your own nutrients that you don't even think that you could produce anymore. That's pretty bonkers. Even bringing down parasites.

[01:12:38] Hydrogen is not known as an anti-parasitic, but I found a research study where it clearly showed the parasite numbers went down dramatically in the liver when you were using hydrogen. And so in the Japanese, I did a lot of studies. Yes, I researched water to the nth degree, in hydrogen also. But I also researched parasites a lot too.

[01:12:55] I created my own anti-parasitic protocol based on the knowledge from the Japanese. They've researched parasites so much. Man, it's crazy. You should see the pictures. It looks like something out of a nightmare. It's crazy, and it's real. This stuff's real. And figuring out how they work in the human body.

[01:13:13] And some of these protocols, man, I'm not kidding you, clean hydrogen with water and getting these parasites out, I felt like something unplugged from my brain that was holding me back. I just felt so much better. I can't even believe my recollection. When you get older, I'm not really expecting to have the kind of recollection that I did when I was younger.

[01:13:34] It's better now. I can't believe the things that I can remember and I can just, boom, boom, boom, recall it. And it's wild to me. Because I was never like that before. And so I think hydrogen's actually a total nutrient brain food that, I think, elderly would benefit so much, hence the dementia, the Alzheimer's patients.

[01:13:52] I did a testimonial. I released her story and her pictures of a woman who didn't even recognize her own daughter, by the way. She got on my protocol, recognized her own daughter, all the nurses. Starts talking, starts smiling. They showed her pictures. Her eyes used to be just black, a lot like Joe Biden. The eyes were just black.

[01:14:09] It was crazy, man. It was just like that. And then you see the pictures after the hydrogen, after using it for so many months. You could see the white again. You could see the light coming through the eyes, brother. Just like they say, the eyes are the window to the soul.

[01:14:23] Luke: Yeah. Yeah, that's amazing. I want to let people listening know that want to check out the Lourdes Hydrofix, looks like I've got 100 bucks off for you here. lukestorey.com/holyhydrogen. If you use the code LUKE there, you save 100 bucks. We bonded over this last time you're on the show because I've tried, like I said, going 15 years ago with the Kangen machine.

[01:14:46] I've tried a lot of technologies in this space, and this is the one that has persisted and lasted the longer. So you and I are on a unified front as far as that goes. I don't think I'm quite as picky as you are about some of the other ones. You're super hardcore, and I respect that.

[01:15:04] But it's one that, like I said, has lasted for freaking ever. It's super convenient. And it's easy to travel with. And after learning more about it from you, I'm like, "Cool, I'm glad I settled on that one. I don't have to waste my time trying to chase the other ones around." Before we call it a day, I know you've got a really active YouTube channel based on the numbers that you're like, "Check out number 67."

[01:15:29] You must have a lot of videos. What's the best way for people to interact with you? Do you do any consulting? Is there any contact information we should put in the show notes or anything you want to encourage people to dive deeper into?

[01:15:42] Greg: Yeah, actually I do consults, but just to let people know, I'm selective. It's not about the money for me. I will only work with people who are willing to change their lives. Because if they're going to be lazy, I'm not going to give up my time. Because my time goes into my health, my body. But if somebody's serious and they're suffering, I have to help them, brother.

[01:15:59] I love people too much. I care about them too much, and I know what it feels like to suffer. I've been through that. So I do consults. People can email me directly at uprising144k@gmail.com. So people can just email me. Email me your phone number, whatever. I give you a call. We have a brief chat, and see if it's a good fit for a consultation.

[01:16:17] What I do encourage people to do, if they want to support what I'm doing and they love what I'm doing, everything I do is for free. So I share all the information for free. I never want this to be about money. And you can find me on YouTube under Uprising 144k.

[01:16:30] But I encourage people to also follow me on Instagram, Twitter, otherwise known as X, and Rumble. And the reason I say that is because I've been attacked so much for trying to bring the truth actually about hydrogen, which is weird to me that I get so attacked. You know that. You got attacked from having me on the show. And like nothing else, I'm telling you, these people hate the truth.

[01:16:47] Luke: When people do that, it just makes me want to have someone on again.

[01:16:52] Greg: Hey, man, let's do this again sometime.

[01:16:55] Luke: I'm like, hey, if you want to pay for the show and be the producer for free, we can talk about you selecting the guest. But for right now, I didn't charge you this thing, so I'm going to pick them based on how interesting they are and how much I think they have to offer the audience."

[01:17:11] Greg: Absolutely. So that's how they can contact me. They can email me. But if they follow all those channels, yes, it helps me also to support what I'm trying to do. But also, if one of those gets knocked down, you're only going to find me by being subscribed to the other ones.

[01:17:25] So that's how people can reach out to me. And thanks for that. And yeah, I'm here to help people. I want to love others the way that Jesus had, for example. Love one another. And that's my goal in this life, because I know that's what I'm going to take with me, and I want to be able to face my maker and not be ashamed about the way that I treated people. So it's all about the love, brother.

[01:17:47] Luke: Yeah. Thank you for sharing it with us today, and thanks for your dedication and obsession with this topic, because it's great to have someone to come back to and be like, "All right, what's the latest and greatest?" You're going to Japan. You're still all in after all these years, which is really cool.

[01:18:04] I love when people just find a niche and they specialize. That's some of the funnest shows, when I can just narrow in on one topic that I know is going to be really useful to people. And you've been great at doing that.

[01:18:16] Greg: And it's all about water. Like I said, the whole hot spring thing, if you want to-- I'm just putting it out there, if it all worked out. But if you ever did want to see some really awesome hot springs, brother, I know some secret ones. I found these hot springs literally in the center of a mountain, and there's a way to get there, and there's almost nobody there.

[01:18:35] It's a secret spot. And I discovered some other stuff, which I'm not going to say on the show. Maybe I'll tell you in private. But I've uncovered some super amazing things about these waters. You can use them in spiritual ways. So hydrogen's really spiritual, brother. It actually can connect you to the source.

[01:18:54] When you see the stars in the sky, the light of the world-- you know that we'll have no life on this planet if we didn't have a sun in the sky, the sun. Even more important than water. We'd be dead in the water if we didn't have a sun. And the connection and what that has to do with source is a really big deal.

[01:19:09] So if you use hydrogen properly, I didn't realize, and it took years of me to figure this out, there's ways to use it. And purity is at the utmost importance in order to-- it's spiritual. It's not just physical, but physical and spiritual go hand in hand. They literally go hand in hand. And so there's some really bonkers stuff. And yeah, man, if you ever come out to Japan-- you have my email, so you can reach out to me if you want.

[01:19:34] And there's a lot of cool secret spots over there. I won't begin to tell you all the things I've found. I found all sorts of really cool and exciting stuff. If you ever want to do a show on that, we can go into that, if you like.

[01:19:44] Luke: All right, epic. You would be the only guy in Japan that I know personally, and especially one that speaks English. I would need a guide.

[01:19:53] Greg: Oh, dude, it's awesome. And yeah, it is really hard without a guide. And I don't like going there like on a tourist thing. That's just not me. So it's a lot funner when you know people, and you can travel throughout Japan and hot springs everywhere. You can eat basically everywhere because they're so picky about how they make their food, their standards.

[01:20:14] Just to have an example, look up how many people died of salmonella in America in one year, and then look up how many people in Japan died of salmonella. It's bonkers, dude. It's like night and day. They're so obsessively clean and precise about everything. I just love it.

[01:20:28] It's a great country. And it's probably good that they're so strict with their-- what do they call it? Immigration or whatever. Unlike America. Let's just open the doors, let everybody in. It's very different over there. They're not like that.

[01:20:41] Luke: Awesome, man. Thanks for joining me today, and I look forward to checking in with you again after your next round of adventures. You have a wonderful day, my friend.

[01:20:52] Greg: Thanks, Luke. Good talking.