[00:00:01] Luke: Two of my favorite guys in the world, and also two of my favorite podcast guests. I don't know how many-- you guys have been on a number of times.

[00:00:10] Ian: Yeah.

[00:00:11] Luke: I can't even keep track.

[00:00:12] Ian: We have. We have been on a few times.

[00:00:15] Luke: The show notes are lukestorey.com/quantum3, so I guess this would be your third. For those that want to hear more from these two, Ian and Philip respectively, we'll put the show notes today at lukestorey.com/quantum3. I feel like every time we sit down, the world has hyperspace changed so much that there's a lot to talk about, but also in the realm of Leela Quantum and  Quantum Upgrade, I don't know, I see stuff on your social and I'm like, "Oh, these guys did another research project."

[00:00:49] Or there's some new development, some addition to the service and I'm like, "Oh, Goddamn. Now we got to talk about it again." Because I just like to keep abreast of things like this in the world. And so, yeah, it's almost like, I don't know where to start because we've covered a lot of the foundational stuff to begin with, but there's going to be a few thousand people that have not yet heard those first two episodes.

[00:01:12] So maybe let's just start with the fundamental premise of quantum energy, which I think most people have a general understanding of what it is. How have you guys developed technologies by which people can actually harness quantum energy and apply it to different areas of their life?

[00:01:39] Philipp: So we figured out a method on how to vibrate the ether so that we can make highly concentrated quantum energy available in this reality in a way that hasn't really been done before or in very ancient times. What that means is that we can infuse specific products with highly concentrated quantum energy field, and then there's a certain vibration that you can calibrate on the Hawkin scale, and you can combine it with all kinds of different frequencies.

[00:02:13] And that's the Leela Quantum Tech side. Now today, I think we're talking about  Quantum Upgrade. So I'm quickly moving out of that. Those are physical products, and you can use them for all kinds of things for your body.

[00:02:25] Luke: We have them all over the house.

[00:02:26] Philipp: Yeah. You can structure water with it.

[00:02:29] Luke: Probably too many. At one point I had the giant one up here that you brought, which is now in the garage. I'll tell you why. And then I had the one on the kitchen counter. I put my water and supplements in, and then I have the Infinity Bloc in my office.

[00:02:43] And Alyson, who's I think just much more tapped in and sensitive, she's like, dude, "You got too much of this Energy shit in the house. You need to calm it down. So at various times, I'll move things around or remove things to see what the right balance is. So based on that, I know what you're doing is real because she feels it almost to the point of like, "Okay, this is enough."

[00:03:06] Ian: It's always interesting when there are people who-- most of your audience, I'm sure at this point is super dialed in and knows it, and probably for the most part they've experienced it. But for people who haven't, it sounds so absolutely out there woo, which is why we've done so much research. We've got studies, what, over 70 studies, I think, at this point.

[00:03:27] Luke: Wow. God. I remember when there was one or two studies, and I was like, "Cool. That's good. I'm convinced."

[00:03:31] Ian: It's been a hot minute. Yeah. But yeah, and some of the latest studies are off the charts compelling. We'll go through some of those, but it really is when you see something intangible expressed in a tangible format, it's always very cool. Everybody in the lab always gets incredulous at first, and then after you've done it enough times, people are like, "Oh, we don't understand it, but we're going to do it." Which is actually, you don't really have to grasp the subtle nature of everything to realize that there's import. It profoundly has an impact in a physical sense.

[00:04:05] Luke: Yeah. I think my tendency is just to do everything overkill to the point of like, you really only need one of the Leela things probably just in the middle of the house, and you're fine. But I'm like, "I don't know. You guys sent me another one. I'm going to put them everywhere." Anyway.

[00:04:20] Philipp: You can have more, and there's a lot of people that have more, so it's all good.

[00:04:24] Luke: Oh, I also have the Infinity Bloc in my car. And I have the  Quantum Upgrade service on my car. And I also have the Blushield scaler thing in there. So I just like to go full on, but I understand some people are more sensitive.

[00:04:38] Okay, so the Leela thing, we've done episodes about that. I've talked about it a lot in social. But today I want to really talk about the field theory, the quantum field theory, and the Quantum Upgrade. Because even though I understand it in a fundamental sense, there's always a bit of a bridge to cross to get my, and I'm sure many of the listeners, intellect to understand that there's so much more going on outside of the physical realm and what we can touch, feel.

[00:05:12] Everything including this thing right here first exists in the realm of non-form, and now it's in the realm of form. So I only think this is real because it's here right now, but the imprint of it, the idea of it existed before this thing was sitting here. Anyway.

[00:05:30] Philipp: Exactly. Yeah. And everything comes out of consciousness. And so the question probably leads to, okay, so how does this  Quantum Upgrade even work? Or how can we explain it to people? So we've built a system that is one of the most powerful sources of quantum energy on earth. And when we place a unique identifier of someone or something into the system, then that something or someone is in the field.

[00:06:00] So it's not that the system sends out energy like a 5G tower does that sends out energy to your phone. No, it's literally via quantum entanglement. You are in the field. And then the trick was that you couldn't just do that and offer it that way. You would have to have the user have 100% control over it.

[00:06:21] And that's something that we really wanted to also take a notch further, where it's not that, okay, so now I want to make a change for tomorrow. No, it should be pretty instant. So if you want to say, "Okay, I want to have more energy." You can set it or you can book in a specific frequency. I think we have 30 different frequencies by now that you can book in. And the system updates every five minutes.

[00:06:48] Meaning that if you make a change now, within the next five minutes, you have that change already. And you can pause it also at any time. That's pretty much how it works. And it's very, very important and critical that everyone and everything that's in the system isn't linked to anything else in the system.

[00:07:09] So that was for us, one of the biggest things to work on in the development phase, that you don't co-mingle any of those objects or cars and phones with something else. And yeah, when we had that, that was the biggest trick, and then connect it to that digital front.

[00:07:33] And now it literally works like clockwork. And that's where the studies come in. Because now you can say, "Okay, this is how it works. It's quantum entanglement." By the way, if you don't believe that quantum entanglement exists, in 2022, the Noble prize for physics was awarded for work on quantum entanglement.

[00:07:53] So it's not that it's like a very new concept, to be honest. I think it's just new that it is applied. Because you can experience it every day. And the latest research, we'll get into that, is quite phenomenal. And it's also hope giving in a way because we live in a world where we're exposed to so many stressors, EMFs, blue lights, the melanin levels are messed with, our brains are messed with.

[00:08:21] And we will get into the brain stuff actually. I have some news for everyone here. The blood is messed with. Everything is messed with. If we can provide something that supports our biofield and really strengthens that, that's pretty cool. And because it's not like a physical object that I need to carry and put somewhere, it's even good for athletes, for example. Because you don't need to carry anything. If you have a boxing world championship fight, which there are actually indeed box world champions that using this--

[00:08:56] Luke: The Quantum Upgrade.

[00:08:57] Philipp: I would never have imagined that.

[00:08:59] Luke: No, I was thinking like the MMA guy is like, dzzz, turns on the boost, goes into the octagon, and just slays.

[00:09:06] I think with the realm of quantum energy, it's like, I don't know, humans by our very nature, we just like empirical evidence. And if we can't sense it with the body in a tangible way, we tend to discount it as not real. But we have no problem picking up our cell phone and FaceTiming someone. It's like, I FaceTimed with my brother last night.

[00:09:32] Ian: Yeah.

[00:09:33] Luke: He's not here. He's not in the phone. He's in Idaho. But there's some invisible waves, and I have no problem believing in that, that, ooh, there's some carrier wave that's going to the cell tower down the road, and it's hitting my phone. Oh yeah, that's fine. But there is something. I can see him there, and I can interact with him. So there's some empirical evidence that that non-visible, non-physical realm is happening and that it's real.

[00:10:03] Ian: But that's what it takes though, right? Is you have to see it, experience it, and then once it becomes part of your daily existence, it's just commonplace and everybody takes it for granted. It's funny that you're using that example because Nicola Tesla got called out in the early 1900s for saying, "In the future you'll have a device where you'll be able to see people and talk to them in real time around the world."

[00:10:25] And it was at the IEEE convention, and he got panned for it. Everybody said he was crazy, he was a loon. And literally, he's describing FaceTime. And 100 years later and change, and we're all like, "Ah." Everybody knows it. And I think a lot of what we've been working on is it's the quantum biology where there's an interface between quantum fields and flux, and how it actually expresses biologically.

[00:10:50] And that's where it gets a little tricky because, luckily, we can do definitive markers. So we can look at ATP. We can do wound healing, all of which we've done. And recently, looking at brainwaves, doing, what, 256 channel QEEGs, the best systems you can get on the planet currently.

[00:11:09] Luke: Really?

[00:11:09] Ian: Yeah. Actually, do you want to jump in on that one and then--

[00:11:14] Luke: No, I'm big on this because I've been re-immersing myself into neurofeedback lately. I went and did this thing called the Holon experience out in California with Dr--

[00:11:26] Ian: Drew.

[00:11:26] Luke: Yeah. You introduced me to Dr. Drew.

[00:11:28] Ian: I did. I did, in fact.

[00:11:29] Luke: Okay. There you go. So we finally connected and I did the thing, and now I've got the Sens.ai device. I freaking use that thing every day.

[00:11:37] Ian: I got it. Love the thing.

[00:11:38] Luke: I did a 45-minute deep calm this morning. I'm in like plant medicine zone. It's amazing. Anyway, so I'm really big on the brainwaves.

[00:11:45] Ian: Trees got skills.

[00:11:46] Luke: Yeah. I'm really big on the brainwaves right now in life. So this is exciting to me.

[00:11:52] Philipp: Yeah. So by the way, we have first evidence already that it works extremely well with the neurofeedback in conjunction and amplifies the experience and potential, but more to that at another time. So in Europe there was this study done indeed with the most advanced EEG device on the market in Europe, 256 channels, as he said.

[00:12:15] And they are a lab that tests technologies and tests electromagnetic fields and all of that, and all the new iPhones get tested and all of that. I think they had 60 companies so far giving them their products to test and only two had efficacy, real efficacy on the brain. And that's important.

[00:12:41] Not just heart rate variability, not just the blood, which I haven't seen anyone else actually besides us doing the research on the blood with double blind and randomized studies that show these significant effects. Usually they have something else that's not so tangible. The brain for me was an eyeopener, to be honest, because I had known a lot about it. I used to work at T-Mobile, as you know. Then we had done all our own research.

[00:13:07] Luke: You used to work for the dark side. You switched teams.

[00:13:11] Philipp: It was still the bright side when I was there.

[00:13:15] Luke: I was listening to a podcast yesterday. What's it called? The Danny Jones show. He does a lot of cool shit about UFOs and conspiracies and stuff like that. And seems like a pretty awake guy. And then he ran a T-Mobile ad in the middle of the show and I was like, "I'm done."

[00:13:30] Ian: It's like the Imperial March place. [Inaudible]

[00:13:32] Philipp: But what we saw in this study was remarkable and it opened my eyes, what is actually happening with the brains. First of all, the way it was constructed is they had a 10-minute EEG in a completely EMF-free room, completely blocked off. That's a baseline.

[00:13:55] And you can tell the brainwaves flow naturally. It's just literally natural brainwaves, how it's supposed to be. Then they put this person, the test person into a chair, and they get the iPhone 15 next to their ear, like this, basically about half an inch away, and then they simulate a 5G call for 30 minutes and measure the EEG. And most of them develop headaches right away.

[00:14:24] And also the lady who's one of the experts in Europe in regards to EEG measurements, she said what's happening now is the 5G bandwidth puts the brainwaves into an artificial box. So the brainwaves can't flow naturally and freely anymore. You're literally operating in a box suddenly. The interpretation of that, I leave up to everyone else.

[00:14:48] On top of that, all the stressors in the brain got significantly amplified, significantly amplified, so that you wonder even how can someone be even calm if you're exposed to that type of stuff. Then the test persons didn't know what was actually being tested other than the phone, obviously.

[00:15:09] And when something would be turned on after the first 30 minutes with this iPhone there, then there was another test done, same thing. But with a  Quantum Upgrade on. And these investigators, they thought, that's not going to work. We've tested all these products. 98% of those don't work.

[00:15:29] Luke: Like little stickers you put on your--

[00:15:31] Philipp: Yeah, stickers and all kinds of stuff that people have.

[00:15:34] Luke: Remind me. I want to get into that in terms of quantum everything these days. It's so annoying. But anyway, carry on.

[00:15:42] Philipp: Yeah. And then they thought they're coming with this thing over distance. That can't work. And then within the first few seconds with the first test person, when it came on, the Quantum Upgrade came on, that lady was sitting there, "Oh my God, this freaking works. This really works."

[00:16:00] And we could see, she knew. At that point you, we could have stopped the study, and she would've been convinced just because of the first 10, 15 seconds. Because the brainwaves did what they would never do under 5G exposure if you didn't have an intervention running. And it was significant because it neutralized the stressors in the brain so significantly, I think Ian can--

[00:16:24] Ian: Yeah. And the biggest thing is if you look at the image, so you've got the brain in its natural state, then you have the brain exposed to the iPhone 15, and everything is red and orange and yellow, not so hot. And then when the  Quantum Upgrade kicks in, everything goes back to calm.

[00:16:41] It's not as clear as the natural pristine, no EMF brain. But it's so remarkably shifted that the visual, just the visual-- and we'll give you the image so you can post it. But all of the things, so like gamma waves in the limbic system drop 77.6%. And that's a correlation to how much relaxation you can get.

[00:17:00] So your stressors drop 77.6. The beta waves and the temporal lobes, those dropped 82.9%. So just massive precipitous drop. And then the other one in the limbic system is the alpha waves kicked up 1300%.

[00:17:16] Luke: What?

[00:17:16] Philipp: 13x.

[00:17:17] Luke: 13:1.

[00:17:19] Ian: Yeah. Yeah, that's exactly what you want.

[00:17:20] Luke: That's I'm getting in the Sens.ai meditations. I'm just like, "Oh, this is heaven."

[00:17:24] Ian: Yeah. And that's it. So just instantly, boom, 13x.

[00:17:28] Philipp: And it was done. Yeah, it is crazy indeed. And it was done with a  Quantum Upgrade over distance. Not even the highest settings. I would say low to medium, but with the so-called brain support frequency that we specifically developed for these high stress situations.

[00:17:46] So if you're, for example, in an electric car, if you are in an airplane, if you have your phone here, if you use your AirPods, for example, things like that, because that is pure stress to the brain, it literally is pure stress. And that really opened my eyes because I did not know how bad that really is to the brain. And yeah, it's quite phenomenal.

[00:18:10] Luke: So in this particular experiment, you've got a regular iPhone 15. They're activating a 5G call with the phone next to them. You're seeing their brainwaves get totally trashed under normal circumstances. Then you assign the  Quantum Upgrade service to that phone number during--

[00:18:28] Philipp: No, to that person.

[00:18:28] Ian: To the person.

[00:18:29] Luke: Oh, to the person?

[00:18:30] Philipp: Yes. That's one of the unique things about the colonography. You can have it for the individual. So the biofield literally is in the field. So the brain support frequency is on, and instantly you see this shift. And no matter what the 5G is doing there and all of that, it just through to anyone.

[00:18:52] Luke: So that person doesn't need to have their phone with them in order to be in the field because it's on their body. I need to activate this when I use the Sens.ai because it's on Bluetooth. It always freaks me out. They're like, "Oh, it's a really low level. Don't worry about it." I'm like, "Eh, still though."

[00:19:07] Ian: That's the thing. And you and I have talked about it before because just the force coming off of most of those things, even low-yield Wi-Fi transmitters, it's enough to disrupt voltage-gated calcium-ion channel flow. And when you do that, you completely throw off the influx and efflux of everything inside your neurons.

[00:19:25] And when that happens, you're fundamentally dysregulated. And you can see it. You can see it in the brainwaves, but if you're doing an fMRI, you could potentially see the neurons not firing properly just because of that stuff. Not that you'd be able to do that in an fMRI because you'd fry the phone.

[00:19:40] But if you did, you'd actually see that everything gets thrown off because the field coming off an iPhone is pretty intense. I'm not saying that we should all renounce our driver's license and go live in the mountains in Colorado and grow beard and not have phones because I'm a fan of my phone, but still, you have to accept that there's a lot of detriment-- with the progression of almost any technology, there's going to be some detriment.

[00:20:05] But that's what I think. When you look at the pictures of this, truly picture's worth a thousand words here. You look at it and you're like, "Healthy brain. Oh my God, that's awful." Back to pretty good.

[00:20:16] Luke: Wow. You guys got to send me that image. We'll put it in the show notes.

[00:20:19] Ian: Yeah. I'll show you. I keep it on my phone because it's such a holy schnikes.

[00:20:23] Luke: In the realm of this kind of craze of quantum energy and different devices and things like that, I think, thank God, you guys are doing that because that's what's really needed. We need some empirical evidence because, as I was alluding to earlier, I remember to come back. I get message from people all the time, some little quantum sticker, this and that. The shungite pendants, whatever.

[00:20:48] People ask me, "Does this work?" I go, "It might." But if there hasn't been some research, some studies, something to document that it at least is having a positive influence on biology because that person in that experiment, for example, if you had a RF meter next to their phone, next to their head, the  Quantum Upgrade isn't blocking that field. It's creating a fortification of the biology and the brainwaves, right?

[00:21:17] Ian: Correct.

[00:21:17] Luke: So that's the bummer about this field, no pun intended, is that anyone can just come up with any piece of shit product and call it quantum, which is super annoying because then that discredits people like you that are actually-- I'm sure you guys are putting a lot of money into these studies.

[00:21:35] Studies are hella expensive from what I understand. So I just have this disdain for people that are polluting the marketing waters with dubious shit that either is totally fake or just not really worth spending any money on because there is actual science and empirical evidence that people like you are actually bringing forth to say like, "Hey, don't just trust us that this thing works. Here's the evidence." Cool. I think everyone should be required to do that.

[00:22:04] Philipp: Exactly. And it really doesn't stop there. I know that there's a few studies that you may be really interested in, and that is in regards to the blood. And we talked about blood studies before. There's so much research we've done, randomized and double blind, but specifically now in regards to parasitic load and spike proteins. Two randomized double-blind studies.

[00:22:26] Spike proteins, we're just taking that out of context now, so we can talk about it. It was shown that in the control group that was not receiving the  Quantum Upgrade, everyone showed traces of the spike protein in every blood sample. And the blood sample was taken at various parts of the body.

[00:22:47] Whether they were vaccinated or not, didn't matter. It literally didn't matter. All of them had traces of the spike protein. And in the treated group, in the so-called experimental group that received the  Quantum Upgrade, again, randomized and double blind, none of these people had any traces of the spike protein in their blood throughout the entire duration of the study.

[00:23:08] Luke: What?

[00:23:09] Philipp: Yes. That is the one study. And then the other one, I think you may remember that.

[00:23:16] Luke: This crazy. I want to come to these experiments. I got to see this shit. This is crazy.

[00:23:20] Philipp: We will actually at some point invite you that you can maybe get brainwave tested and see before and after.

[00:23:26] Luke: I would love that.

[00:23:27] Philipp: Yes. Because it's truly eye opening to see it with your own eyes.

[00:23:32] Luke: So I'm going to read between the lines a little bit here. I don't know how censored we are these days. I know I'm still censored on social media. Podcast, I seem to be able to say what I want. So I won't be that-- what do you all it? Cryptic.

[00:23:48] So in this test, whether people had undergone the mRNA experiment or not, we're assuming, just from being around people that did, everyone's essentially infected, for lack of a better term. They're getting the consequences of that fake medicine being rolled out. So everyone's basically loaded with these spike proteins.

[00:24:10] Philipp: The one thing I can say is how much of the spike proteins were tested there, but that's one thing I can't tell. That was also not part of the study really. Actually, the study was about something else, and then they were finding that, and then they were digging into it. And they just saw the traces. But whether the vaccinated had more traces, I don't know. I would have to ask the investigators there. But yeah, it's quite remarkable.

[00:24:45] Luke: At the end of the day though, it's the chicken or the egg. Who cares? I just want something that cleans up my blood. You know what I mean?

[00:24:55] Philipp: Yes.

[00:24:55] Luke: It doesn't matter so much why it's that way. I don't think I'm just curious to know that. But ultimately, as you said, we're being attacked from every freaking angle just because of what we've done to the environment and our food and water and air.

[00:25:10] Ian: Yeah. And this is a whole lot easier than going to go through apheresis or plasmapheresis or therapeutic plasma exchange. All those things are super viable for taking detrimental things out of your system. But it's a whole lot easier to do this.

[00:25:26] Luke: Do we know how long that clean blood lasts?

[00:25:32] Ian: I don't.

[00:25:34] Philipp: I don't think even you could say because we know that there's like this staircase effect that the longer you use it, the more your body is able to recreate all that energetic state, even the EMF protection or all of that. Literally, it trains your consciousness, your biofield, to be able to replicate that.

[00:25:57] But as you know, we're so exposed, and then what are we exposed to? So if I then go and sleep under a 5G tower and eat crap and drink bad water or Pepsi or Coke, for that matter, then probably it's not going to last that long. But if I stay very healthy and I stay, I don't know, in the jungle, and I go ground myself in the ocean every day, probably it stays longer.

[00:26:23] That's why I think it's very individual, and you couldn't even say that, but it does last certainly some time. And also the effects on the brain, that's what we at least have found. So in regards to parasitic load, that's the other one. And I think I mentioned in one of the shows before that the Base Institute found a reduction in parasitic load in the blood of test persons that were exposed to the  Quantum Upgrade.

[00:26:53] And then in one case, they actually found an 80% reduction in parasitic load. And then I was like, "Wow. That is crazy." And that was actually within 15 minutes. I think that's probably the best-case scenario. I don't think it could get any better than that. But then we said, "Okay, we would like to go deeper."

[00:27:12] And then they ran a study, randomized and double blind with a control group and experimental group, and looked specifically at the parasitic load and also the environment in the body that makes parasites thrive. And what they found is that the Quantum Upgrade, this high consciousness field, and I think for half of the day, they use the so-called H.E.A.L 360 Frequency. That makes the environment so bad for parasites that they have to go away. They don't like it anymore.

[00:27:50] And it's very well written and described actually in this study. It's a very, very good study to read. And then it shows a significant reduction in parasitic load in all of the test persons that were exposed to the  Quantum Upgrade. And you didn't see any change. And at the matter of fact, it got worse for the ones that were in the control group.

[00:28:11] It didn't even stay the same. It got worse over time. It was a six-month study. So yeah, it's quite remarkable. So there's something there. And by the way, I'm not suggesting do this as the only thing to take care of parasites. I think, no. Just do whatever you always do that you know that works.

[00:28:30] Do that in addition because it helps clean your biofield and your body. So I think that's pretty powerful if we're talking about spike proteins and parasitic load. Plus, of course, we know that the red blood cells start to declot and white blood cell activity is activated again. That's powerful stuff.

[00:28:51] Luke: The parasite thing makes sense from the terrain theory perspective. You're talking about biochemistry, and if you have a certain pH, all kinds of different things, are going to make you as a host more attractive and life supporting to parasites. So it's interesting though having an input from the non-physical realm that's having an effect on the terrain in that way.

[00:29:19] It's like an energetic terrain kind of thing, which is not totally new. Rife machines and things like that we know have been used to neutralize different pathogens and things like that. So it's not totally out of the realm. But this is interesting because someone's not sitting there holding onto Rife tubes.

[00:29:38] Ian: You've got a plasma tube next to you.

[00:29:39] Luke: Yeah, that person's just chilling, has no idea what's going on because it's a double-blind study.

[00:29:44] Ian: Well, it's gradations. So we're doing gradations of granularity. So you went from, in the past everything was kind of Newtonian mechanics applied to the body and it was all physical, and then it became chemical, and then it became electrochemistry. And it keeps moving down.

[00:29:58] And now we're talking about quantum biology and we're going, "Oh, there's a field effect that you can express." And I would take it even a little bit farther and say that when you're addressing those things, any pathology that's expressing, the reason you're able to overcome it is because you don't have to fight against the thing.

[00:30:14] You can do it one of two ways. It's like being cold in a room. You can either turn the temperature up and change the entire environment, or you can simply put a jacket on. You can buttress yourself against the stress. And so in this case, you amplify your own consciousness and your own energetics, and it makes you less assailable from the standpoint of any sort of pathology that's trying to express in your form, which again, it's an expression of consciousness.

[00:30:41] And the way I always look at it is consciousness expresses to become energetics. Energetics express to become subatomics, and then molecular, and then biochemical, and then meat suits. And it's the crunchy on the outside, chewy on the inside.

[00:30:56] Luke: Well said.

[00:30:57] Ian: We're going farther and farther out, and it's the expression of consciousness as it gets farther away from its center point. But that's the beauty of what we're doing is when you express something at the most fundamental level, that cascade effect just moves through and propagates all the way through to physical form, which is the videos of us on stage doing things with histamine reactions in real time.

[00:31:21] That only works because things are wave forms before they're tangible matter. And the depressing thought of the day, every time I push Philip, his leg moves because my electron clouds are repelling against his electron clouds. It's not that we're actually really technically touching. It's that there's this probabilistic cloud around each of us that are clashing for a moment.

[00:31:46] Sometimes they mesh really well. Sometimes they clash. When they mesh really well, you have substances and things that don't harm you. When they clash, then you have a destructive interference pattern, and you might get some pathology like parasitic load or your blood clotting or viruses or spike proteins, any of that stuff.

[00:32:06] But if you're strong enough in and of yourself, and that's really I think the fundamental thing that's the beauty of this is, you are part of the field anyway, and this just gives you a well little leg up in the field.

[00:32:19] Luke: How's it related to the ether, which it's not something I've really explored on the show and don't totally understand, but my thought on it would be that we exist in the substrate of matter, being that everything, probably inclusive of, but everything that we would see as not something is the ether, right?

[00:32:46] Ian: I would be inclined to say yes.

[00:32:48] Luke: It's like we're all underwater, but we don't see or feel the water that is the ether. How would you guys describe it?

[00:32:57] Philipp: I think that's a great description, and the good part is that we're even talking about the ether because the ether was banned from the mainstream scientific model, I don't know, a few decades ago.

[00:33:10] Luke: Dude, didn't they remove it from the periodic table or something?

[00:33:13] Philipp: Probably. And then nothing makes sense anymore after that. And I don't want to say that everyone in the quantum physicist space is thinking that way. I actually believe a lot of them really see it the same way that we see it. But there is certainly a narrative out there that grit creates grit. So matter creates matter. And that is a fundamental misunderstanding of reality because everything originates from consciousness, never the other way around.

[00:33:50] There's always consciousness first, and then matter can come from that or result from that. And once you understand that and that there is this ether, you can access that. It's possible. And everyone has the ability to do that. And that's also what we've been seeing. We are all consciousness running around. We're not meat bags, just dead meat bags. So we have access to all of that. It's just most of--

[00:34:21] Luke: Have you been in an airport lately?

[00:34:22] Philipp: I know.

[00:34:24] Luke: Going into Walmart.

[00:34:26] Philipp: Yeah. You wonder, right?

[00:34:28] Luke: I think there's some NPCs that are possibly just meat bags.

[00:34:32] Philipp: Yeah. Over 99% of the people.

[00:34:34] Luke: I let my judgmental part come through.

[00:34:37] Philipp: I've forgotten that, and it's time that we reactivate that muscle again. So we can do all of that. We could, if we're really focused, really trained, and have full access to it again. We could promote such changes that we're describing that the Quantum Upgrade can do, you could do with your own consciousness.

[00:35:00] But you would have to be really focused and really tuned in and really trained in order to do that. But it is possible because you can do those things, and that is what we're trying to tell people. Keep doing your meditation. Do your yoga. Just remember that, your energy and frequency. That's just a great start.

[00:35:20] And then, of course, use tools like ours to help you that you remember that and that you can do that in the future again, because we're moving there anyway. You want to start training that muscle because it'll become more and more important. I can tell you one thing. Most people are not seeing right now what is going to happen with AI in the world.

[00:35:42] In the next 5 to 10 years, we will see shifts here that most people have no clue about. There will be a mass die off of jobs. People will be jobless. And then the big question is, what is humanity even good for? And what can I as a human still do? I can tell you what we can do.

[00:36:03] We have the connection to consciousness. We are consciousness beings, and that is our advantage. AI does not have that and never have that. AI can think quickly, can be programmed and all of that, and spit out great summaries and content and all that good stuff. We have the real connection.

[00:36:20] So you want to train that connection now because that's where you also get your input out. Like, what am I going to do in the world? You don't think your way out of that. You connect with the ether, with your higher self, and then you work from that, and then you're good. That's pretty much how it works. That's the answer.

[00:36:41] Luke: I love that. What you were talking about in the beginning of that reminded me of, mystics of the ages that have on record dematerialized or people in the Himalayas that learn to levitate and things like that. I've met people that I believe aren't delusional or dishonest, that have witnessed things like that or done things like that in the realm of, I guess what we call supernatural.

[00:37:06] But they're training for 50 years to be able to do it. You know what I mean? To your point, is like, yeah, this is accessible to anyone, but who honestly has the dedication to try?

[00:37:18] Ian: Only a--

[00:37:19] Luke: How long am I going to sit here to try and access quantum energy where I can levitate that thing like Luke Skywalker? So yeah, we know that it's real, but I like the idea that it's like, yeah, cool, let's continue to work on it ourselves. But who doesn't like a cheat code?

[00:37:36] Ian: Actually, yeah. So with my company, MD Biophysics, you've done the stem cell procedure that we do with the lasers and everything, and one of the things that we actually include for all the doctors that we train is we include a quantum bloc. So every laser system and centrifuge system, they all go out with a quantum bloc.

[00:37:55] And the rationale there is that when you're trying to elicit a beneficial response in somebody's physical form, a lot of that is invested in the person who's the practitioner. For the most part, it's MDs who are doing it, but really, their intent, their desire to express wanting to heal.

[00:38:14] And it's amplified just by virtue of having a perfectly pristine, clean slate where the field of quantum flux is much higher. If you had somebody in the room that was just absolutely loving and wanted nothing more than to heal them, and maybe if you had their mom there or something, that would be the same effect.

[00:38:32] But in the absence of being able to hire their mom to go in and make sure that the procedure goes off, we actually literally put a quantum bloc in every laser system for that reason, because it has such a pronounced effect.

[00:38:46] Luke: That's epic.

[00:38:46] Ian: Yeah.

[00:38:48] Luke: What's next? I'm like, "Yeah, you guys have done all right."

[00:38:51] Philipp: One more thing.

[00:38:54] Luke: Only 70 studies. Geez.

[00:38:56] Philipp: I don't know how we're on time, but one other study I want to mention--

[00:38:59] Luke: It's 4:47.

[00:39:01] Philipp: Okay. So then I can mention two other studies really quick because--

[00:39:04] Luke: We got 15, 20 minutes.

[00:39:06] Philipp: Again, we'll still get into the what's next, but I think two other studies are very interesting too, because they were also quite powerful, one, on women's health. The so-called reputable health institute out of the US contacted us at some point and said, "We bumped into your technology, and we're trying to figure something out here to help women with fertility issues. Does your technology help with that?" And then I said, "Well, I don't know. We've never tested that. I would assume so because of this, this, and that, but I have no data points."

[00:39:39] Well, we have so many women here that have these issues. We would love to run a study if you can provide the technology. Okay, long story short, we used the Quantum Upgrade for that. And it was with 30 or 35 women, and the results were excellent across the board, across all markers, including also the personal surveys of the ladies that that were treated.

[00:40:05] And it was so good that everyone from the reputable health institute signed up for the  Quantum Upgrade right the day after the study was over without even asking for a discount code or anything. They told us two months later, "Yeah, we're all on the  Quantum Upgrade. This stuff is crazy. This really works."

[00:40:21] So it's really interesting to see these wide areas of application where you can help with this or where energy or supporting the biofield has a positive effect in how it shows up. Not just in HRV and in the blood, but in a lot of different ways. And of course, these studies were already top-notch studies, but if someone asked, "These are all human studies. Did you also do something for pets?"

[00:40:50] Yes, we have done various things for pets. And there was a study with 30 dogs just recently completed, I think three, four months ago, that was a 12-month study. Run in Austria. It had four different testing methods. They looked at the regular veterinarian diagnostics. So two veterinarians diagnosed the dogs before, during, and after. Pet owner surveys was the second method.

[00:41:20] The BESA testing method was the third one, which is basically a bioenergetic system analysis based on the Deka Voll method. People can look that up. D-E-K-A and then V-O-L-L, Deka Voll from Germany. Phenomenal biohacking diagnostics that most people have completely forgotten that it exists. And then lifeblood analysis. All those four methods, and it showed significant improvements across the board. Again, it was randomized and double blind and placebo-controlled because the dogs have no clue what was going on.

[00:41:55] Luke: 30 dogs, you said?

[00:41:56] Philipp: 30 dogs. Yeah, with a control group. And in the control group, either nothing happened, or the picture got worse. In the experimental group, the dogs got better on all levels that they measured across all of these different testing methods, including also the perspective of the pet owners. And they did not know if the dog was in the Quantum Upgrade or not. So it's really double-blind.

[00:42:20] Luke: It's blind for the pet owners.

[00:42:23] Ian: Yeah.

[00:42:24] Luke: Interesting. That's funny. You just reminded me, when you guys came out with your service a couple of years ago, whenever it was, I saw the pet one, so Cookie's been on that the whole time. I actually forgot about it.

[00:42:34] Philipp: How is she doing?

[00:42:35] Luke: She's doing great. She has a breathing issue that came up recently, and I haven't been able to solve that. But she's nine years old, and you can't control. She's very energetic.

[00:42:49] Philipp: Have you tried the H.E.A.L for Dogs Frequency?

[00:42:51] Luke: I don't think so.

[00:42:53] Philipp: Okay. And then especially because we've updated it about three months ago, so--

[00:42:58] Luke: Whatever I had her on, I haven't looked at. I was just like, "Oh, pet. Boom. Click. Activate."

[00:43:05] Philipp: Try this one for her for the next week and see how that goes. The happiness during the day and H.E.A.L for dogs during the night and just see. Play around with it.

[00:43:14] Luke: Yeah, I have to go and--

[00:43:15] Philipp: Not too high. Dogs don't eat much, especially at that size. Maybe 700 during the day, 500 at night is just perfect.

[00:43:22] Luke: I have to look. I wonder what I did set, because I think I did a different evening and daytime set. Because when you go in your online portal, just for those listening that haven't seen it, you can go in and be very specific. You don't want the high energy one when you're trying to sleep. So I remember I set mine and the house and hers, I think, whatever made the most sense based on the time of day.

[00:43:44] Philipp: Correct.

[00:43:45] Ian:  Transcendent dog, it's 700.

[00:43:47] Luke: Yeah.

[00:43:48] Ian: 500, nice tail wagging. 700 got a transcendent dog.

[00:43:52] Luke: Yeah, I think the dogs are enlightened.

[00:43:54] Ian: Cookie's in a lotus position when you walk in.

[00:43:56] Luke: Totally, totally.

[00:43:58] Philipp: Yeah. And by the way, people can try it with, I think, code LUKE15 on  quantumupgrade.io for 15 days for free. And what we changed a few weeks ago is we always were, I think, pretty cool about that because you could sign up, you put in your credit card, and after the trial, if you didn't want, you could just tell us through various channels you don't want it anymore, and you could cancel any time. But we even switched that, that you don't even have to provide a credit card, and you literally need to sign up though then if you want to keep it after those 15 days.

[00:44:33] Luke: Oh, epic. I love that you did that. I love that you did that. I find that annoying. I'm not very good at checking my credit card statements, but every once in a while I open one up, just see what's going on. I go, "What the hell are these 10 apps I'm paying for?" Some shit I signed up for on my phone and I never used it.

[00:44:53] And I'm like, "God damn it." I probably spent thousands of dollars on things I forgot to cancel. So thank you for doing that. I think we realized last night we're paying for two 15-dollar month, Amazon things, Discovery TV or whatever because I accidentally signed up on mine and Alyson's account. Who knows how many of those things. I don't even notice. So thank you for making people go the extra step to actually get charged.

[00:45:20] Ian: It's a whole lot easier when you have something that really profoundly helps. That is nice actually because people can feel it. I think if people didn't actually get the benefit, they would not do that. They would not take that step.

[00:45:33] Luke: Yeah, totally. That's a good litmus test, if someone's like, "Cool, I got this thing for free. I didn't notice anything." Then great, they don't need it. But if someone does and they're going to go through the extra effort to actually input their information, it means it's doing something.

[00:45:48] Ian: It's a great way for people to play with consciousness too. I think just if somebody is looking at the idea of consciousness for the first time, it's great because you can go in and you literally have a way to dial it up, dial it down, see what you perceive, see if you perceive anything at all as opposed to going to sit in a cave in the Himalayas.

[00:46:08] You can do that. Sure. You could spend 50 years meditating, but if you can dial in and play with it and see, then I think it's compelling because when people have an experience of that firsthand, it's profound.

[00:46:23] Luke: Yeah. And also there's the phenomenon of not only tracking your own experience, but watching the experience of your pet or people that you live with and things like that. Assuming you're not crossing their autonomy bounds and things like that, I don't think something like this would be-- I don't know. I don't feel like you would be karmically out of line to just turn a cool thing on in your house and not tell anyone.

[00:46:50] Ian: To randomly be kind? No, I don't think you're crossing a boundary.

[00:46:53] Luke: That's an interesting test too, just to see like, I don't know, if your hyper annoying teenager settles down, mellows out, or whatever. I don't know. There's different ways to test that too.

[00:47:04] Philipp: And frankly, almost the opposite is also the case. If we think about it, cancer rates for cats and dogs are through the roof, and who takes care of them. A lot of people have still not understood even that EMFs are really an issue. But the ones that have understood take care for themselves. But do we take care of the pets? But they have the same issues, and they're way smaller than we are. And then the blue light exposure and all of that.

[00:47:32] Luke: Like these?

[00:47:34] Philipp: I'm fine. I'm in the  Quantum Upgrade because we've tested also that the melanin is supported.

[00:47:40] Luke: Really?

[00:47:40] Philipp: Yes, it is. It is supported by our technology, and that's quite cool because the melanin levels are messed with through all the blue lights and then through the EMFs on top of it. So it's a big deal. And so for us, what's next, you asked? More research. We're not stopping because there's so much more still to explore, I think. Especially the blue light topic is hot for me. I want to see more research. We're doing more research even on the brain.

[00:48:10] So there's actually few studies that are underway right now in regards to the brain in the US and in Europe. We have two studies that we haven't talked about yet and won't right now, but they will be published relatively soon. They were done in Europe. And then we'll focus on athletes. So there is a pilot study in the way right now with top athletes. One of them is trying to break the world record in the 400 meters this year. And so it's a quite nice--

[00:48:40] Luke: That's going be a hell of a testimonial if they do it.

[00:48:43] Philipp: Yes, exactly. But we have other ones. As I mentioned, there's some world champions and Olympians that are using this tech. And in the end of the day, they're pretty cool. Some of these top athletes, they try to get the fastest recovery that they can get and the best performance that they can get. And they're already doing pretty much everything they can to maximize it. And then they see, oh wow, that gives me an additional edge, and it's working. They ask once how this works and then they don't care anymore because they only care about that it works.

[00:49:15] Luke: That's a great test subject cohort, right?

[00:49:17] Ian: It really is.

[00:49:18] Luke: Because you have people that are already super healthy, high performance. They're already doing all the bio hacks. To get something to move the needle for people that are already at the highest level of performance is more meaningful.

[00:49:29] Ian: And we do have those, like Blaine McConnell. So Blaine, phenomenal athlete. I think probably just turned 40. And at the NFL Combine, when you track it, the fastest time ever posted for a 40-yard dash is 4.21 seconds. It was the fastest time.

[00:49:50] Luke: Oh my God.

[00:49:50] Ian: It's pretty damn quick.

[00:49:53] Luke: I can't even do that in my car. That is insane.

[00:49:55] Ian: So Blaine, he's been working on it, and he's done a bunch of stuff. He is done the Wizard stuff. He does the  Quantum Upgrade. I did the VSEL stem cell procedure on him with the lasers. And so he's looking for every edge, but it's like you said. So he just ran that, and we've got video of it.

[00:50:14] It's clocked and tracked and everything at 4.15 seconds. So faster than anyone's ever run it at the NFL Combine. And he's turning 40. He sent me two videos, that one, and the next one he's doing some ridiculous thing, like a deadlift with 470 pounds or something. It's ridiculous. But those guys, that's the cohort, because they are at the absolute extreme edge of human performance. And when you see that, you're like "Damn, okay. That's a testament."

[00:50:44] Philipp: We had a professional motocross rider that came to a biohacking world conference in LA, to the booth with his dad. They both came and gave me a bunch of presents and said, "This is just so amazing. Thank you so much for the  Quantum Upgrade." Okay, so what's going on?

[00:51:06] So he had this huge injury, and it was supposed to be a six-month recovery time, and he actually posted it on his Instagram. He talked about it with his dad. So everyone can look at it. And he was done after two and a half months. That was the only other thing that he did, and it was just absolutely remarkable. And there was another guy who had the same injury in the same week, and he wasn't there. He took the regular time. And so it's pretty what's going on there?

[00:51:42] Luke: Riddle me this. I'm putting myself in your position as the owner of this company. I feel like I would do a few studies, spend the money-- maybe be less profitable for a couple of years or whatever-- get some data, throw it on the website. Then I'm out. I'm not doing any more studies. I'm just like, "We've proved it. I'm good." And I'm just going to buy a yacht or whatever.

[00:52:07] What motivates you to keep pumping cash into the research when, frankly, it's not probably that necessary at a certain point? Is it your curiosity or what?

[00:52:20] Philipp: Well, thanks for asking actually. It's because of our mission. Our mission is not to make money. Our mission is to help people and pets and plants.

[00:52:28] Luke: Oh yeah. Help people. Right, right. Forgotten.

[00:52:31] Philipp: That is really what it is. And because of that, the research doesn't stop because there's so much more to explore. Just from a business standpoint, you could absolutely say of course, this has been proven long time ago. I could have stopped two years ago to prove to anyone any more study. The proof is there. Look it up. But it's not about proving it anymore. It's about showing what else is possible.

[00:52:59] And then research areas like the food sensitivities for example, it's difficult to provide guidance in this specific field because there's so many different substances you can eat and so many different body profiles and all of that. There's so much more research to be done, and it's a key technology.

[00:53:20] That's what most people haven't understood. It's not like one product. It's a key technology. So it can be applied in many different ways, and that's why the research area is also so broad and so big, and it's just fascinating. I think we're craving for more research.

[00:53:36] It's fun, and it's also because what you said initially. It's you can prove we're all one and we are all energy and frequency, and we react to that. We transmit energy and frequency, and we also receive it. And then figuring out what else we can do in this world.

[00:54:00] Because we're blasted by all these negative things, and we've never been in the camp of saying, "Okay, now we need to fight the negative or something." But hey, we're driven to provide something positive for people that they can use. Yeah. And then they use it for the benefit. And that's basically where it comes from. And it's fun also. It's fun.

[00:54:21] Luke: I'm just halfway kidding because I find it fun too just every time I meet up with you guys and you're like, "Oh, here's the latest studies." I don't know. It's wild, especially because we're bridging the Newtonian world of materialism and the non-linear, non-physical world of energy. The fact that you're bridging those, but you can show empirical evidence on the physical side. I find that really interesting too because you're decoding magic. This is like--

[00:54:50] Ian: Yeah, that's a very good way to put it.

[00:54:52] Luke: Spooky effect at a distance or whatever that--

[00:54:54] Ian: Spooky action at a distance.

[00:54:55] Luke: Yeah. It's like you're showing that because you--

[00:54:58] Ian: I liken this to a lot of what Michael Faraday did when he was originally starting to look at electromagnetism. A lot of those experiments are like, but what else does it do? You get a bunch of scientists who are crazy curious about stuff, and they're like, "Oh my God, it shot sparks." I can feel it. What else can we do? And it keeps propagating, and that's a lot of this, is like, wow, okay, so we can do this in a distance. How much more can we do?

[00:55:24] Luke: So when you're talking about like addressing different issues like food sensitivity, athletic performance, your pet, whatever, are you guys changing the frequency sets and dialing different things in? If I go on the back end of my account and I'm putting these boosters at different times and they each have a different signature, is a lot of the research you're doing to show the results of the ways you're tinkering on the back end with addressing different areas of physiology and so on?

[00:55:56] Philipp: Yeah. We have done, at first, the bulk of the studies with just the basic quantum energy, and now lately we've gone in and used specific frequencies, like the brain support frequencies that we developed that was used now in the brain research and is also going to be used in these other brain research studies because that much amplifies the just basic settings.

[00:56:22] We actually found that the basic settings are not at all able to combat everything that's going on in the brain. You would have to even do more. If you literally have your iPhone 15, 5G call here for 30 minutes, you need additional stuff and additional support. And by the way, it has some very positive side effects because you don't even need to use the brain support frequency just because you're on the phone. So it just helps you in general with more clarity and presence.

[00:56:52] You can just go to some party and have a blast because you have the brain support frequency. You literally amp up your brain in a very national way. And so coming back to the question though, the H.E.A.L.360 Frequency has been one that was used as a standard protocol, I think at least partially in the spike protein and parasite studies as well as-- but only partially I must say. And then it was fully used in the women's fertility study.

[00:57:25] Luke: Oh, cool. Oh yeah, that's why I was going to ask you that earlier. With the fertility study, they were using the H.E.A.L Frequency?

[00:57:30] Philipp: Yeah. It's called H.E.A.L.360.

[00:57:32] Luke: A specific one for hormones or something like that.

[00:57:33] Philipp: Yeah.

[00:57:34] Luke: Oh, interesting. Okay. This is really bad to do when we have four minutes left, so I apologize. And there might be an easy way out, and feel free to plead the fifth on this, Ian, but have you done Bufo since I saw you last? Because I don't think if you-- I remember there was murmurs of the possibility.

[00:57:53] Ian: Yeah. Actually, when last we spoke, I had done it.

[00:57:56] Luke: You had. Okay.

[00:57:57] Philipp: Not after that.

[00:57:58] Ian: But not after that. I have not done it again.

[00:58:00] Luke: Okay, okay.

[00:58:01] Ian: Just the one time.

[00:58:02] Luke: I don't recall unpacking that with you. But I would like to when we have about four and a half hours.

[00:58:08] Ian: I'm super down for it, man.

[00:58:10] Luke: Yeah. Because I remember thinking like, Ian, brilliant guy, high intellect with a really big, open, heart, loving person, that combination is already so rare and amazing, just a gift to humanity. And I thought, man, what happens when you hit that with 5-MeO-DMT?

[00:58:27] Ian: I think we probably need to do it one more time to validate that out.

[00:58:31] Luke: I was telling [Inaudible] earlier today, we were, of course, talking about that particular topic, and I told her that the first time I did it, it was too immense. I didn't even realize what had happened because it was so big. You know what I mean? It was only in the subsequent times after that, I reflected back on the first time, and I was like, "Oh, that's what was happening."

[00:58:50] It's like I was in Venice at a friend's house. I walked out. Just drove home. I was like, "That was interesting. Had no clue how monumental it was until later. So yeah, sometimes it does take two. Although the second one was really, really difficult.

[00:59:08] Ian: Really?

[00:59:09] Luke: Yeah.

[00:59:09] Ian: Because in terms of what you had to process through?

[00:59:11] Luke: I resisted. My ego freaked out. I had a full-blown ego death. I stood up and I was like, "Make it stop. I'm done. I'm out." I was saying that.

[00:59:21] Ian: That's so good.

[00:59:23] Luke: And everyone's looking. They're like, "Oh, it doesn't work like that." The group sitting around me. But it was a beautiful lesson. And wow, look at the amazing naivete but caring nature of the ego. It was trying to protect me by torturing me and trying to make a thing stop that it was too late in stopping.

[00:59:48] Ian: Yeah.

[00:59:49] Philipp: That's what it does.

[00:59:50] Ian: After you hear the click, click, click, click, click, click. You're right at the top of the rollercoaster. I think I should hop off then.

[00:59:56] Luke: That's what happened. It came in and started resisting after it had just been annihilated. And I was like, "Bro, you're too late. You just missed the thing you're trying to--" Anyway. I've told the story numerous times, so I won't tell it again, but I can't wait to unpack that with you.

[01:00:11] Ian: I would love to.

[01:00:11] Luke: Before we go, you mentioned the 15 days free. We're going to put all of that at lukestorey.com/quantum3. I'd love for people to give this shot. Let us know. Hit me up. Let me know what you're experiencing. You guys have a Telegram group too?

[01:00:28] Philipp: Yeah, there's a tell the Quantum Upgrade community specifically for the  Quantum Upgrade, and we have over 4,000, maybe 5,000 people in that group.

[01:00:36] Luke: You have more than my Telegram group. Mine never grows. I started it during the plandemic because I was censored everywhere. And so I only put really negative stuff on there. Just like, okay, I get it. I get why it's still locked at 3,900 or whatever is. But I think that's cool. I like the community aspect because with something like this, it's like, I don't know, you turn it on. You're like, "I don't know. Am I feeling anything?"

[01:00:59] To interact with some other people in the group and they're like, "Hey, I'm experiencing this and that." And to be able to have some support and be able to compare notes, I think that's a really great idea. Really quick, tell us what's the latest with Wizard Sciences.

[01:01:15] Ian: Let's see. So we just dropped our new and improved methylene blue product, MitoBlue.

[01:01:22] Luke: Oh, I love that stuff, dude. Yeah.

[01:01:24] Ian: That was after having to pull MitoCure from our 236-page cease and desist letter from a very large multinational conglomerate that I--

[01:01:34] Luke: Oh, interesting. Was it because of the name of it?

[01:01:36] Ian: No, it was because they said we were infringing on some patent rights. If you're going to fight a half a billion dollar corporation or rather half a trillion dollar corporation, the economies of scale there are ridiculous when you think about-- I would like to fight the good fight, but if somebody has quite literally hundreds of billions of dollars, you can pretty much say in this particular milieu, you're going to lose that battle. So I was like, "Meh." So we pulled it, then went back, and I reformulated everything. And actually, it's really good. It's got MNM and apigenin and a whole lot of fisetin.

[01:02:15] Luke: That's a dope product, so much so that--

[01:02:18] Ian: It packs a wall.

[01:02:19] Luke: The last bottle we got from you, Alyson took it, and she barely takes any supplements. She clutches that bottle.

[01:02:26] Ian: Yeah. That combo.

[01:02:27] Luke: I can't even find it. She loves it.

[01:02:29] Ian: It's good stuff because it really hits, because it triggers mitophagy and then it upregulates mitochondrial biodensity. And so it's all the things that you really want. And then the gin synthesize, it's like ginseng. Who knew? Pretty much everybody from antiquity knows it really potentiates the effects of all that stuff.

[01:02:46] There's a lot of research, and you can look it up. We have it on the site. But that stuff is great. So we've got that, and then trying to get the inhale water out the door. And that's the super oxygenated stuff.

[01:03:01] Luke: Epic.

[01:03:01] Ian: Yeah. There's a lot going on.

[01:03:04] Luke: As you know, I'm a big fan, and going out to your freaking lab, that place is so awesome.

[01:03:10] Ian: You're going to have to--

[01:03:11] Philipp: The Quanta something list.

[01:03:13] Ian: Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. And we just released the Quanta line of supplements, so it's D3K--

[01:03:18] Luke: Really?

[01:03:18] Ian: Yeah. And they're great. So that was one of the amazing things. People look at this and they get incredulous because we can take something and we can take, say, D3 or zinc, and we can run a spectral analysis on it. And it says D3, zinc. It's exactly the same. And then we put one in  Quantum Upgrade or the Quantum blocs, and we charge it, and then we run redox potential assays on it, and it responds as if it's an entirely different compound.

[01:03:43] Luke: Whoa.

[01:03:43] Ian: It's so much more amped up. And the data, it's funny when you look at it because you're like, holy shit, this is a totally different compound.

[01:03:51] Luke: That's crazy.

[01:03:52] Ian: I always joke that it's like-- it goes to 11 because you completely crank the potential. And the crazy bit, and I'm not the only person who's done this, but another chemist that did the same thing, what's bizarre is the potential, how it impacts biochemically.

[01:04:08] What the bioavailability shift is is dependent on what's better, which is crazy to think. It's not just that it uniformly bumps everything up, so it has a higher redox potential every time. If it's actually better for you, if it has a lower redox potential, it dips it.

[01:04:24] Luke: Whoa.

[01:04:24] Ian: And that's just one analysis. There's a whole host of different things that you can track.

[01:04:28] Luke: So it's self-modulating.

[01:04:29] Ian: It is self-modulating. It's almost as if there's some underlying intelligence that connects everything.

[01:04:35] Luke: That's nuts, dude.

[01:04:36] Ian: Yeah. And that's great. And then you did the PPT, the photobiomodulation plasma therapy, which is cool because we, my partner and I, just finished up a year of research at UCLA, very demonstrably showing increasing stem cell proliferation and all these things.

[01:04:54] But at the end of the day, the thing we found was it actually wasn't about stem cells. It was about the effects of light and quantized light and plasma. This whole quantum, we're going to have to release our line of quantum cornflakes.

[01:05:07] Luke: So cool. Yeah, exactly. Everyone else is doing it. We got two minutes until you guys need to be taillights, as we say in Hollywood. It's been a pleasure.

[01:05:18] Ian: As always, man.

[01:05:19] Luke: I wish we had more time. But this time it's not my fault; you got a flight, so it's out of my hands. Otherwise, we'd go for another four hours. But that just means we got to do it again soon, as they say.

[01:05:29] Ian: Speaking for both of us, we would love to. This is actually--

[01:05:32] Philipp: With more time then.

[01:05:33] Ian: Right. Yeah, with more time. This is great because we always come out here and it's happy. It's truly--

[01:05:38] Luke: Yeah, it's good times. And I've already asked you two on multiple occasions, your three greatest teachers, so we can skip that. Until we meet again.

[01:05:47] Ian: Much love, man. Thank you. Really happy to be here.

[01:05:50] Philipp: Thank you.