Gail Lynn: [00:00:06] I know our body is beautiful. I know God gave us perfect bodies. I know our bodies can heal themselves. I know that. I know if I break a bone, it's going to heal. I know if I cut myself, it's going to scab over and heal. Why have we been so duped into believing that there's other illnesses we can't heal from? That's my question for people. This is Gail Lynn and you're listening to the Life Stylist Podcast.

Luke Storey: [00:00:38] Welcome one and welcome all. I'm your faithful host, Luke Storey, and we're about to blast off on another intergalactic journey on the Life Stylist Podcast. This is Episode 445, Inside the Harmonic Egg: A Journey of Healing and Transformation, featuring Gail Lynn. Show notes, links, and complete written transcripts have been carefully prepared for you to add to your experience, and you can find them at lukestorey.com/gail 

Our guest, Gail Lynn, is the inventor of the Harmonic Egg, which uses sacred geometry, light, color, and sound frequencies to empower the body's own healing energy. It's definitely one of the coolest innovations I've come across in my exploration of this category of technology. And I knew the moment I had my first egg session that I just had to track down its creator and talk to her and share that conversation with you. So that's exactly what I did. 

And here's just a taste of the rabbit holes we burrow into on this one. My first Harmonic Egg journey and the lasting impression it left; how Gail was unwittingly chosen by source to be the inventor and steward of the Harmonic Egg; the surreal story of her Marian and Elvis stepbrother and making a Hollywood film about his life; Gail's background in engineering and how a traumatic car accident allowed Gail to download the remaining knowledge needed to finish the Egg; the interwoven stories between the Egg, Wilhelm Reich, Nikola Tesla, and other wellness tech pioneers; how astrology, sacred geometry, scalar waves, chakras, music, and colors were all rolled into one fantastic machine; how Gail applies the divine feminine business model that places cooperation over competition; how sacred geometry affects our DNA and the power of the 369 numerical code used in the Egg's creation; why she chose to avoid using MP3 formatted music in the Egg and what she did instead; and why she advises to not take psychedelic journeys inside an Egg and so much more. 

This is a wild one, family. I simply love discovering people like Gail and sharing their magic with you. And if this conversation lights you up and you become Harmonic Egg curious, go to lukestorey.com/harmonicegg to find an Egg center near you. Or if you're really into it, grab one of your own. Now let's get ready to drop into the mind and heart of Gail Lynn on the Life Stylist Podcast. Please keep your hands inside the vehicle at all times and enjoy the ride. Gail Lynn, here we are. We're doing the damn thing.

Gail Lynn: [00:03:09] Here we are. And Bailey said it was about two years later now.

Luke Storey: [00:03:12] Yeah, since we first had our conversation.

Gail Lynn: [00:03:15] Right.

Luke Storey: [00:03:16] And I know we've texted a bunch and things like that, so it's really nice to meet you. So we're going to be talking about your journey today and what led you to the creation of this really fascinating technology called the Harmonic Egg. And it is described on your website at least as the Harmonic Egg uses sacred geometry, light, color, and sound frequencies to empower the body's own healing energy. 

And as someone who's done, I don't know, probably five or six sessions, I can verify that that is in fact true. I also wanted to give a shout-out to Latitude 34 back in my former home city of Los Angeles with Deborah and Greg there.

Gail Lynn: [00:03:56] She told me to tell you hello.

Luke Storey: [00:03:58] Oh, nice. Nice. Yeah. I don't remember where I first saw the Egg, but the minute I saw a photo of it, I'm immediately I have to try that. It's just kind of how I am. And I think I'm pretty sure they were the first ones I tracked down. I was like, oh, cool. You don't have to be able to actually afford one of these yourself, which would be nice. And sure, a few people do, but you can actually go and do sessions. And so I did that. And then I also found one here in Austin. For those listening, I think their Instagram is eggATX and it's called the-- 

Gail Lynn: [00:04:31] Ophelia Center.

Luke Storey: [00:04:31] Ophelia Center. Yes.

Gail Lynn: [00:04:33] Named after the Egg.

Luke Storey: [00:04:34] Yeah. And a really lovely woman whose name I forget at the moment.

Gail Lynn: [00:04:37] Melinda.

Luke Storey: [00:04:38] Melinda. Yeah. Melinda helped me out and kind of did my intake and a little consultation and yeah, man, 99 bucks, sat in there for 50 minutes and was a really great reset. It's probably about 40, 45 minutes from my house because it's on the other side of Lake Travis. But every time I sit in this thing, I'm just like, "Oh, this is amazing. I need to do more of this." And speaking of that, Bailey, we need to get you in for a trip while you're here visiting as well. 

So those are the shoutouts and we're going to get into what the Egg is and how you created it. But I want to just go back a little bit into your youth in the '70s in Detroit and how you almost went into the auto industry and ended up in engineering. I think a lot of those pieces kind of coalesced to you now actually creating this quite sizable piece of equipment. The Harmonic Egg will take up a room. It's like you have to know something about engineering. 

So take us back, and while we're at it, where I got all the information about you is from stocking. It's from reading your book, Unlocking the Ancient Secrets to Healing, which I got a couple of copies a couple of years ago, probably when we met. And so I was going back and reviewing it today, and I was like, "Oh man, she has some great freaking stories in here." So we have to cover some of that before we get into the actual technology. So where did you come from? How did you get your start here?

Gail Lynn: [00:06:01] Well, born in 1970 like you, October 28th.

Luke Storey: [00:06:05] I'm 29th.

Gail Lynn: [00:06:06] I know. It's so funny. 

Luke Storey: [00:06:08] Scorpio power. 

Gail Lynn: [00:06:08] Scopio, yeah.

Luke Storey: [00:06:09] Rad. Don't tell me you were born in Denver.

Gail Lynn: [00:06:11] No. Detroit.

Luke Storey: [00:06:12] Okay. Okay. So that's where you lived as a kid as well.

Gail Lynn: [00:06:16] Right. I grew up pretty humble beginnings. My dad had a seventh-grade education in the automotive industry, and my mom had a high school diploma. Basically told me, you don't need to get a college education. You just need to work in the automotive industry and get a pension and retire.
And your life is grand and you work hard for every penny you make. And my dad used to tell me you're just trying to buy steaks with hamburger money. Why are you doing that? You're never going to amount to anything. Just get the job at the automotive industry and retire. And it just didn't feel right. It never felt right.

Luke Storey: [00:06:50] Doesn't feel right to me sitting there.

Gail Lynn: [00:06:51] No. And so I got to get out of here. So I was trying any exit to get out of the Detroit area, and I just knew there was more to life. And I did a lot of mentoring and coaching. But working in automotive in the '80s, it's a man's world, so a lot of sexual harassment. So it toughened my skin pretty good, which I love. I love that I've had all these journeys and challenges. It's great. 

And so I found a way out to get into telecommunications and move to Texas. I was probably making $20,000 a year, and when I came into automotive, I was just a little kid. I was 17, 18 years old. So I had a lot of dads. And so when I was trying to leave, they're like, "Oh, no, you're not going to make it in the world. You got to stay here and keep doing this." And it wasn't the plan, but it was a supplier, United Technologies Automotive.

And so I get a fax letter onto the fax machine into the office, and it was for $84,000 from $27,000 to $84,000. I'm like, "I'm going to have to go for this." And I never looked back. I told my parents, I'll probably be back in six months. Let me just make some money and I'll come back. And 10 years in Dallas, Texas, working for GTI, which is now Verizon as a contractor, built an international telecommunications consulting firm. Married. 

We should have stayed business partners. Didn't really work out as a marriage. So we were really good business partners. And when we were traveling all over the world, we did contracts in Egypt. It was a beautiful life. And when I got down there, his mom was a literature teacher and I found out work. Living in Detroit and my family not being super educated, I said things like, I seen that, I had went there. Now--

Luke Storey: [00:08:58] Where's it at? My mommy starts getting my kids. Where's it at?

Gail Lynn: [00:09:01] I know. So being that I'm married to this guy whose mom is a literature teacher, I think she cringed every time she heard me speak. So it was really funny. So that education, work, living with him, and coming from the Detroit area was a whole nother education. He was a shaman and he taught me so much about Carlos Castaneda, so Buckminster Fuller, and all these different energies that I never heard of, and reading books by Ayn Rand and Ray Bradbury. It just wasn't introduced to me. 

In Detroit, you're trained to be an automotive worker. So it was amazing, and we were traveling all over the world. We go into Peru, he asks me for a divorce, falls in love with the tour guide there. It's almost surreal. My life is stranger than fiction, right?

Luke Storey: [00:09:53] Is this Travis from the book?

Gail Lynn: [00:09:56] Names have been changed. Wink, wink.

Luke Storey: [00:09:59] I'm just trying to track this story. Yeah.

Gail Lynn: [00:10:02] So I'm thinking, okay, so now what?

Luke Storey: [00:10:05] What were you guys doing in Peru?

Gail Lynn: [00:10:07] So in Peru, we were on a spiritual journey. He wanted to rewire his brain and he literally was a rocket scientist. He worked for NASA, wanted to rewire his brain, do the ayahuasca, do the poison frog energy in the Amazon. And I chose to come later on instead of sleeping in the Amazon. I heard spiders as big as paper plates.
Now, I think I'll pass on that. So when I got there, a week later I landed and he was acting really strange, and just kept staring at another girl across the room, staring. I'm like, "Okay, what's up?" He's like, "I want a divorce."

Luke Storey: [00:10:41] Wow.

Gail Lynn: [00:10:42] I fell in love with this girl. I'm like, you could have told me before I got all the way to Peru.

Luke Storey: [00:10:49] Oh, man.

Gail Lynn: [00:10:50] So truth is stranger than fiction, right?

Luke Storey: [00:10:53] Do you think that that realization came to him in the journey space that he was working with down there?

Gail Lynn: [00:11:01] No. No.

Luke Storey: [00:11:02] No. You think he just got the hots for another girl?

Gail Lynn: [00:11:04] Yeah. I don't want to be too crude.

Luke Storey: [00:11:06] Yeah, well, I've heard stories of-- and I'm like, I hope this never happens to me because I love my wife so much. I don't think there's anything lurking in my subconscious that would indicate otherwise. But I do hear every once in a while of someone going through a really profound transcendent experience and realizing maybe it's their romantic relationship or their career or something, and they walk out of there and change things.

And I've heard it's advised and I would agree in most cases that when you have an experience like that, maybe don't change anything major right away because you never know what kind of energies are influencing your decisions. But anyway, he just kind of--

Gail Lynn: [00:11:45] It was a brilliant gift. It gives me a story to tell people, but also that I can relate to people who have these, and to me it was trauma. And so our guide was Peter Gorman. A lot of people know Peter Gorman in Peru, and he wouldn't let me do the ayahuasca ceremony because I was angry and he was right. You don't want to do that when you're angry. And when you're going through this trauma, it could have been a really bad trip.

So it was a really interesting journey and I didn't get to do it. And I've really not been attracted to plant medicine since I found sound and light therapy, which to me is a natural high. From being in the Egg, I think you said if you want to trip balls-- I don't know what that means, but when you said, if you want to trip balls, try this Harmonic Egg. And I was like, "Who's this Luke Storey, guys? Tripping balls in the Harmonic Egg? What does that even mean?" Quite funny.

Luke Storey: [00:12:40] I don't remember that, but it sounds like something I would say. Yeah. And that has in fact been the case with most of my sets. So I guess, in that relationship right there was, I'm sure, a lot of lessons that you extracted out of that. But what gets me about that is this gentleman introduced you to esoteric teachings and shamanism and Buddhism and things like that. Do you look back on that, the loss of that relationship now in a positive sense and that he was a messenger for you at that time in your life, or what was your take away from that one as all said and done?

Gail Lynn: [00:13:17] Absolutely. I honor him and I don't have any regrets in my life. Everything that I've been put through has led me to where I am today and who I am today. I wouldn't be who I am today without him. So I look at it that way because I think it's beautiful. It's a beautiful gift, the beautiful gift that he gave to me. And I will always honor that gift.
And he had children, so I had stepchildren and I still talk to them. They're beautiful.

Luke Storey: [00:13:44] Oh, cool.

Gail Lynn: [00:13:44] So it was really a gift.

Luke Storey: [00:13:47] And earlier in life-- and I kind of skipped over this because I know this story gets really trippy here first. But you had some challenges with asthma and physical illness in your book, also some pretty negative experiences in your Catholic school before this abandonment scenario with this gentleman in Peru. It sounds like you went through some pretty tough stuff before that even happened. Maybe you could eliminate some of the stuff that went on earlier.

Gail Lynn: [00:14:16] Well, I was raised Catholic, so the Catholic Church and there was a priest who would take groups of teens to Aspen every year, and we would have this 10-day ski trip and they were called the skiing saints. And so I was kind of vulnerable. And when I listened to your interview with Gabor, I realized some things that became more clear that I think I put out an energy of a victim. 

And so here I was, 14 years old, we're sitting in a van. So the first group would drive out and fly back, and the second group would fly out and drive back. But he would stay the whole maybe 20 days. And he started putting his hand on my leg and putting his hand on my butt. And I'm like, "Oh, what's happening here?" I didn't know what to do. 

And so I'm 14 years old. He's whispering in my ear. He's want me to sit on his lap, kiss him. And I'm like, "Oh, I'm not comfortable with this." I called my mom, but my mom wasn't very worldly. And I said, "I need to come home." And she said, "I don't know how to get you home. You have a plane ticket and you're in Colorado. I'm in Michigan. I don't know how to get you home."

I'm like, "Mom, I'm scared." And I'm like, "This guy's laying on top of me in my bed," and she's like, "Oh, it can't be true." And sorry, I get emotional. And he did this to so many kids, so many. When I came home and I said, this happened. "No, it didn't. Don't ever bring this up again. This did not happen." And so I told my friends, I said, you need to say something. And they said, "We saw what just happened to you. We're not going to say anything."

So it went on for years and there's so many complaints. And he finally did get kicked out of the church. And my mom had seen him years later and she said, "I just want to punch him right in the face." But I said, "You don't believe me when I told you." And nobody would really stand up and say anything. So that was really tough. And I walked away from God because when you're 14 years old, that is God, the priest is God. So comically, I come into meeting a shaman, and then after our divorce, I end up meeting and dating an evangelist.

Luke Storey: [00:16:32] Right. Well, any kind of abuse of that nature is obviously just horrific. And I know that from personal experience. But it's almost-- I don't know if you can scale how wrong something is, but the spiritual betrayal of that, I think, adds another layer because of your association with this particular supposed representative of God, of spirituality. You have the scar of the trauma and all of the shame and your parents' nonreaction and inability to intervene. 

But man, to be turned away from God in such a profound way could have another whole cascade of detrimental effects on someone's life. So you meet this other guy, though, thankfully, who starts to introduce other avenues into spirituality that don't involve a pedophile priest. Why is it always the priest?

Gail Lynn: [00:17:36] Well, I don't know.

Luke Storey: [00:17:37] I wasn't a priest, but--

Gail Lynn: [00:17:38] To me, it was a gift because I got to help other people who've had similar experiences. So I feel like all the asthma, the migraines, all the health conditions that I researched for myself, I was able to help other people get through molestations. And I know I can't relate to a rape, but I also can help them with the healing trauma. And that's how the Egg got created. How can I help these people when their root cause is trauma, even though they have a named illness from the medical industry?

Luke Storey: [00:18:12] Yeah. Do you think that the trauma you experienced had anything to do with your asthma and different physical issues you were having or were those before that had happened?

Gail Lynn: [00:18:21] So I had asthma when I was four. We realized I had asthma when I was four, but my dad was an alcoholic. My mom was very angry and there would be plates flying across the room. My dad's driving away on the sidewalk, running over stop signs. I'm running out the door trying to chase him. And there was a lot of that, but it's not my story anymore. I think we can release this stuff from a cellular level so we can lift the veil and be who we truly are. And what doesn't kill us makes us stronger.

Luke Storey: [00:18:52] Amen, sister.

Gail Lynn: [00:18:53] Yeah.

Luke Storey: [00:18:54] Take us to the future wherein you meet this evangelist public speaker who was Elvis's half-brother. Is this--

Gail Lynn: [00:19:04] Stepbrother.

Luke Storey: [00:19:04] Stepbrother. Okay. This is your story. And oftentimes I just get people's story and I'm just talk about your thing because I want to go really deep into that. But this part of the story was just too intriguing to me. And you told a number of stories in the book about it, but what happened? How did you meet this guy? You start traveling with him. Give me some of the juice on Elvis's post-death orbit as you experienced it.

Gail Lynn: [00:19:30] Well, and I didn't want to write the book with my name on it. I literally wanted it to be anonymous. But my editor said, "Well, how are you going to do interviews and podcasts and promote this Egg?" And I don't know, but the Egg wants this information in the book. And she said, "People need to know who you are, who the inventor is." And I realize that now. 

So when I got back from Peru, I was angry, to say the least. And everything I built with this gentleman just was done. And he was older because when you're molested by a man who's 43 year older than you, I tended to just be attracted to older men. So this was a pattern. 

And when I went to therapy, she said, "Well, it's father issues." I'm like "Father Brennan, not my dad. It's the priest father." So I get back from Peru and I'm angry and I go to lunch with my girlfriend to the Chinese restaurant, and I see next door it says, Ladies, self-defense, kickboxing. I'm like, "Oh, I need that." I get some of that stuff, right?

So I signed up for the class. It was a combo karate school, which not a lot of people know that Elvis was an eighth-degree black belt in karate, and a lot of his moves on stage are combo moves.

Luke Storey: [00:20:48] Oh, really?

Gail Lynn: [00:20:49] It's hilarious.

Luke Storey: [00:20:49] Oh, that's funny.

Gail Lynn: [00:20:50] Yeah. They do those little moves and they're combo moves and they're just the techniques that we do. And so David Stanley was announced as one of our teachers for a weekend seminar, and they said he's Elvis's stepbrother. And I rolled my eyes. Nobody knows Elvis. It's like no one Mickey Mouse. So he comes into the school and he had a little bit of crush on me and this was going on. And I said, "You're not Elvis stepbrother. Come on. Who are you?"

So he ends up the next day bringing in these books. This is me and Elvis. This is me and Elvis. And I'm like, "Oh, sorry, I didn't really believe you." So he was a motivational speaker, evangelist. And when Elvis passed away, he was left with like-- I don't even know if he-- I think he did finish high school, but that's all he knew was Elvis. From ages four until Elvis passed away, Elvis was his life. And so he was doing this motivational speaking. What do you want to be when you grow up? Do your dream. So I asked him, "What is your dream?"

And he said, "How can I do my dream if my father figure was Elvis?" And people want to do something bigger and better than their father, their parent, what can I do? And I said there's got to be something you can do that Elvis couldn't do. Nope. Elvis could do anything. So we kind of came to the conclusion that Elvis would have liked to direct a film, but Colonel Parker wouldn't let him. So I said, "I guess you're directing a film." And he said, "Okay. Have you ever made a movie?" I said, "No, it can't be that hard." Stupidest statement I ever made.

Luke Storey: [00:22:32] Making a TV commercial is hard. I know from personal experience.

Gail Lynn: [00:22:35] I do not like editing, I will tell you that. Too tedious and boring.

Luke Storey: [00:22:39] I don't either. That's why someone else will edit this.

Gail Lynn: [00:22:41] Yeah. So I meet him and he says, okay, well, let's do this movie. And it took seven years. We raised $3 million and we ended up shooting a film in LA. And it was the most magical experience but the most stressful, hard experience of my life. I almost had a nervous breakdown. It was just hard. And we ended up premiering it at film festivals. We walked the red carpet. We did the whole thing. It came out on DVD, never went to theater. And I would say that I would do it again, but I would never do it again if that makes sense.

Luke Storey: [00:23:18] Yeah, it does. And this film was about Elvis's stepbrother or about Elvis or their relationship.

Gail Lynn: [00:23:25] Basically, it was a 16-year-old boy, goes on tour with his world-famous stepbrother, who's Elvis Presley, and protects him from everything but ultimately himself. No one can protect Elvis from himself.

Luke Storey: [00:23:36] Got it. Do you think people could find this online anywhere?

Gail Lynn: [00:23:39] It's all protecting the king.

Luke Storey: [00:23:40] Oh, it's out there? 

Gail Lynn: [00:23:41] Yeah.

Luke Storey: [00:23:41] Oh, I'm going to watch it.

Gail Lynn: [00:23:42] It was a hard movie.

Luke Storey: [00:23:44] I was telling you, I just watched the feature. What was that called? The recent Elvis feature? It was just called Elvis. Well, appropriate. And I loved it. And Alyson loved it, too, because really I didn't know that much about Elvis. And it's a movie, so you don't know how much of it is true. But it was very creative and really well done. So I would have liked it if it was a fictional character. It was an interesting movie.

But perhaps most interesting for me was how this Colonel Parker character really not only just interfered so terribly with his career and finances and all that, but prevented him from leaving the country and as a result, got him these stifling residencies in Vegas. And that's kind of when I was a kid, the Elvis I remember was the guy who's overweight and drinking and just plays in Vegas for old people. You know what I mean? 

Watching that movie, I was like, "Oh God, if it hadn't been for this Parker character, Elvis might be around today." He'd be like a little Richard, Jerry Lee Lewis, Chuck Berry. Some of them aren't around, but he was of that era. And just sadly through that course of events, met his untimely demise. 

We were talking about the charisma of Elvis before and how you feel that he obviously had something very special. This is a digression from the topic here. But since we got into it earlier, what's your take on what his magic was or anything that you learned about him from his stepbrother that is interesting to you at this point?

Gail Lynn: [00:25:24] Well, I think if there's somebody and I'm not really star-struck, everybody puts their pants on the same way. But if there is somebody that I would say I would have loved to meet, it would have been Elvis. So you have this kid who's in his 20s who, if you think about when you're in your 20s, you're not really spiritual. You're not thinking that way. But he recognized how powerful Elvis's presence was. And he said the day that he passed away, he drove up to the house and he knew Elvis wasn't in the building, but he knew he was in there. So he ran to the house, ran upstairs, and Elvis was gone. 

But he said just pulling into the driveway, you couldn't feel him anymore. He said you could feel Elvis walk into a room. And I feel like that's one of the gifts that David has given to me is the charisma, the stage presence, had to be more extemporaneous than your communication. And of course, I fail miserably at a lot of it. David would go in and not take notes. And one day I went to a networking event and I said, I'll throw my notes away. I had 30 minutes. I remember about probably three minutes into it, I was lost. I'm like, "How many minutes do I have left?" And I'm dying. I'm just dying.

Luke Storey: [00:26:37] That's the kiss of death. If you're public speaking, you're like, "How much more time do I have?" Not because you're on a roll, because you're running out of stuff. 

Gail Lynn: [00:26:45] I took my notes, so I got real cocky. I'm like, I can do this. If David can do this, I could do this. Throw my notes. I failed miserably. But David would tell stories. I met most of the Memphis Mafia. A lot of them have passed now. Lamar Fike was the one that I probably knew the best. But they said they'll take stories about Elvis to their grave. They were always in protection mode of Elvis, and some of the stories they told me were horrific and lovely. 

So David would say he was the meanest person he ever met and the nicest. But David, even in his 20s, understood that Elvis was always searching. He read the Book of Mormon. He read the King James Bible, the Holy Bible. And he was always searching because he was a twin when he was born. And he never really realized, why did I live and the twin didn't? He didn't understand why people wanted to rip his clothes off. And he was probably some kind of a biblical character if you hear the stories.

So as a 20-year-old kid, there's laying by the pool, the sun gets blocked by the clouds. And David would say, "Elvis, the clouds need to move." And Elvis would just put his hand up and move the clouds. These are the stories I've heard. I don't know. I wasn't there. He said they'd be driving down the road. Elvis, it's raining. He would just part the rain. It'd be raining on both sides of the road. Is this true? 

He told me this story about a guy who put his hand over his leg and he had a broken leg and he healed. Was Elvis really a healer? And that's why we still remember him 30 some years after his passing. To me, it's amazing. And I feel like I felt his energy once after the movie, after David was so proud of having done this movie and doing something that Elvis couldn't do-- I try not to cry-- I felt the strong presence and it was like, "Thank you."

And I feel like it was Elvis. It was a very strong presence, just thanking me for helping David find himself because David always said, I don't know who likes me for who I am or because of who I am. And just imagine being Lisa Marie Presley, who likes you because you were Elvis's daughter or you are Elvis's daughter, or because you're Lisa Marie and you have your own identity. It would be so hard to live in that shadow.

Luke Storey: [00:29:09] For sure. Yeah. Wow. Thank you for sharing that stuff. Thinking about reflecting on that recent film of how young Elvis was, too. You watch what fame these days does to many people, it takes a certain fortitude of character, I think, to remain grounded individually when you reach that level of success and notoriety. 

But then there's also the infrastructure that you need around you to insulate you and protect you. And obviously, in the case of Elvis, there was at least one person that did the exact opposite of that. So yeah, something I think about often is I'm really glad I never got famous. When I was a kid, I wanted to be a rock star. I moved to Hollywood and did all that. And it wasn't so much about being famous, really. It was more about I didn't want to have a straight job, and I just wanted to make money playing music. And that requires being famous. You know what I mean? 

But oh, God, I wouldn't wish that on anyone. Even sometimes I go to like these health conferences and there's a lot of people that want to say hi. And it's like a microcosm of our culture. And even that I'm just like, wow, imagine if you were an actual celebrity where you can't go anywhere without people kind of wanting something from you. That would just be exhausting.

Gail Lynn: [00:30:25] It would be. Even though people are like, "Oh, Luke  Storey, you're going to meet Luke Storey" and like, my boyfriend, would say, "Oh, she's famous." When somebody will come up to the table and they'll say, "What do you do?" And he's like, "She's famous." I'm like, "No, in my little tiny world, I might be a little bit famous, but not on the level of Elvis." And I had a period of friendship with Beth Bolan, whose father and family owned the Denver Broncos. And I was attacked by the media and the lies that they tell about you and the accusations they make about you. I said, "Beth, I don't even know how you do it."

And she said, you wouldn't believe what they've said about my family and about everybody. I'm like, I can't. A little tiny, small scale that I got to experience it on. I would not want to be famous either.

Luke Storey: [00:31:15] Yeah, let's you and I just fly under the radar, and you only need a few people to support your work. You don't need the whole freaking world.
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Thank you for entertaining me with some of the backstory there. Before we move on to that, and I obviously want to get into the creation of the Egg and all the things, what ended up being the lesson from that relationship with this David, man? What did you take away from that in terms of your own ambition and things that led you to actually be the innovator that you are now?

Gail Lynn: [00:33:54] I think it was doing your dream, and I realized that I was building everybody else's dream. First, I worked in automotive for somebody else, and then I helped my ex, Travis, build his dream of having an international consulting company. And then I was helping David build his dream. And I had to reflect and say, "What is my dream? How do I build my own dream?"

And I just got into dysfunctional relationship after dysfunctional relationship with these powerful men, narcissistic, sociopathic men who I would be behind them pushing them forward, but they were taking all the credit. And I don't need the credit for the Egg. I feel like the Egg was just a download and I was just there listening when the lightning bolt hit my head. So I feel like what I took away was to stay humble and do good things for people and try to make a difference in the world. And you don't need recognition for it.

Luke Storey: [00:34:55] What led to the creation of the Harmonic Egg? I'm going to fast forward, I'm sure, a considerable amount of time.

Gail Lynn: [00:35:03] I think the biggest thing was my health condition after the filming of the movie and just really feeling horrible and just feeling like my heart was always racing, something was definitely wrong. And then I met the inventor of a light box that was in Arizona, and he really wanted some notoriety from somebody like David Stanley. So he invited us to come up to Arizona and use the technology and give a testimonial. 

And I thought, "Oh my gosh, this thing in just a weekend helped to bring my heart rate variability test back into normal ranges for my sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous system?" I'm an engineer from my early career, and it just didn't make sense in my head how could this do this? So I went on this journey because I saw that within a few sessions my asthma was gone. I guess I had it when I was four. When I got back to Texas, where I lived, was riding my bicycle, got up the hill, and I'm like, I'm not out of breath. What happened to my asthma?

 
Of course, when you say it's my asthma, you give it an address. So I've learned now everything can heal. Our body doesn't know disease by name. It's a trauma. It's an imbalance. It's something that I think the body can heal naturally from anything. So when I started to see how to sound in light of fact, the body or vibrational beings of light, healing was sound and made sense. So I started digging into the research and read hundreds of books, and then I purchased two of the light boxes and opened up a center because I wanted to help people heal the way that I was healed. 

The migraines were debilitating for 23 years. They started when I was 17. And it would be the loss of the eyesight, the optical migraine. And then the pain came on for 15 hours. Things coming out of my mouth, coming out the other side. It was just horrendous. You almost just wanted to blow your head off. And I can't imagine how people have these migraines sometimes a couple of times a week. 

So I started digging into that and started seeing how if you balance the autonomic nervous system and it's called this dysautonomia, that those migraines can be helped. Migraines can be heavy metals, they can be a food that you eat, they can be from inflammation of sugar, they can be a non thrashing shingles virus in the brain. There are so many different reasons people get migraines.

So I started to be a private investigator and a researcher. So as I'm using the light box, I'm also seeing that the light being used isn't consistent. It's all a painted light bulb with rainbow colored lights, which seems a little crazy that it would even work. And then the music was MP3 files, so they were cold and clinical. Kind of cut off the frequencies. You know music, so you weren't getting the full integrity of the music. Some people were laying flat on their back. And people who are heavy, that's really hurtful on their back. They get up and then their back hurts. So I was just listening to my clients and listening to everything that they were complaining about, about the light box. 

And then I said to the inventor, we need 360 degrees of healing. And he said, "Oh yeah, I got another invention coming up." Okay, well then I come to find out he's tapped into my crown chakra. I'm exhausted all the time. Two months go by and I get a shaman who says, "We need to clear this energy. There's somebody tapped into your crown chakra." So for what? Pulling information from you. What information? You're going to invent some kind of device. I'm like, "Oh, no, I'm not inventing anything."

Luke Storey: [00:38:51] That must have sounded really crazy to an engineer. You're coming from the world of hard physics, physical physics, not quantum physics.

Gail Lynn: [00:38:59] Absolutely. I thought these people were a little crazy. And so did this clearing, and I really wanted to bring this person with me. I felt like he was a teacher for me. And no man left behind. And when somebody helps me, I want to be that loyal person and bring them forward. But it wasn't possible. If he wasn't in charge, it wasn't going to happen. 

And so I just had to kind of leave him behind. But I was sad. It felt disloyal. It felt bad to me. And so another shaman came in and said, "You need to have a past life reading and find out why you're here." And I said, "Okay, well, who does pass life readings?" Norm Shealy, a medical doctor partner with Carolyn Mice. And so I call him up and I said, "Who's the best person I can go to to really learn about why I'm here and what is coming through this downloads?"

And he said, "Well, I'm the second best in the United States." I said, "Well, I'll take second best." So I flew to Missouri, met with him, do this past life regression, and I come to find out that the light box inventor was my son in Egypt and had created my first sound therapy device for me when he was my son and I was the mother.

And I always felt like it was a very motherly relationship. And so everything made sense. And of course, I started crying. And it just felt like everything at that moment just came in and said, "Oh, now I know what I'm doing, why I'm here, what this modality is that's coming through almost like a sarcophagus chamber, the Holy Grail, where in Egypt they had sound healing and the Aborigines had sound healing. So many different cultures had sound healing 40,000 years ago.

Luke Storey: [00:40:54] I find that so interesting when they dig up these instruments in archaeological sites and no one knows how to play them. It's weird flutes and drums and all kinds of instruments, and they're going, "How do you make noise out of this thing?" And then they find someone that can, some person that still is in touch with their lineage and they pick it up and go, "Oh, yeah, this thing, I love--

Gail Lynn: [00:41:16] Didgeridoo.

Luke Storey: [00:41:16] Yeah, that's a great example. Westerners subsequently have learned how to play it,  but something that would have just been passed on for we don't even know how long, it's crazy.

Gail Lynn: [00:41:27] So, yeah, I started looking at this. I said, okay, well, we have frequencies and we have 528 hertz and we have the self agile suite. But it didn't feel like that was where I wanted to go with this technology. I wanted to go with it on the waveforms of instruments. So what does the drumming waveform do? What does the flute waveform do? What does the piano waveform do for the body? How does it work with the organs to create the body to be an orchestra that's just beautifully tuned? 

So then I started looking at the tones, the tones of the body. And I met Arnie Williams. And Arnie Williams will listen to your voice, tell you what tones are missing from your voice. And amazingly, if you're missing a tone, it relates to a physical or emotional illness.

Luke Storey: [00:42:20] I did this test the other day at the Ophelia Center, and I was very low in the tone of D, which was interesting. And then my highest was G, and I thought, "Oh man, that's cool. I'm going to try to sing in G because I'm trying to learn how to sing a little bit."

So I go, okay, G is the natural, but I got to push it and try D. And it's funny because yesterday I was making up a little song for Alyson, which I do often, and unfortunately I never record them or anything, but it was in G and I was like, "Oh, I can actually sing this pretty good." And I didn't make the connection. And then in the progression of chords, I needed to put a D, and it was really hard for me to hit that note. And I didn't actually realize it until right now.

Gail Lynn: [00:42:59] Isn't that interesting?

Luke Storey: [00:43:00] Yeah, I thought that was fascinating. Taking that test and just going, huh? And I didn't know anything about it or if there was any validity to it or that it was even connected to you and the Egg. I thought that was just her thing she was into or something.

Gail Lynn: [00:43:12] Now I train the center owners because I feel like it is a real thing. If you're missing a tone, you literally can have a physical correlate or emotional, and there's mantras that can bring those tones back into balance. There's just toning. And so the pieces of music that I create for the Egg, I will say, okay, if I want it to reduce inflammation, I need to create it in this tone with these instruments. 

And then I consult with musicians and say, "This is what I need. I need a flute and bird and water piece of music for autism." Because for autism, you don't want a real stimulating, you don't want guitar and drumming and flutes and birds. It's just too stimulating in the same for an animal, a dog has a similar nervous system to us, and then I use the colors that are calming and cooling, so the greens, the purples and the blues. 

And so when I asked them to record a piece of music, I say, okay, you need to hold a space for unconditional love every step of why you're recording this. There's no room for ego in it to resonate with the Egg. And we want to hold the space of the intention for reducing inflammation or helping somebody's liver or helping with PTSD. Which water sounds will help with PTSD.

And so we put these pieces of music together, and then we have song notes for each of the center owners to use when they hear someone's missing the tone of D, "Oh, what music do I have for the Egg that's recorded on the tone of D that I can help the client replenish?"

Luke Storey: [00:44:49] And you sent me--

Gail Lynn: [00:44:51] All the USBs.

Luke Storey: [00:44:52] Yeah, you sent me a USB with all the track. I still have the songs on my desktop, too. I forget if I put them on my phone or not. But I thought it was interesting that they're in a wave file, not an MP3. Could you explain the difference for people and why you chose that higher density tracks to put in the Egg?

Gail Lynn: [00:45:09] So I think Apple is guilty for creating, you want to put a thousand songs on an iPod, so you want to cram as much music as you can. And I look at music players and there's new technology coming out on music players that I'm looking at and the complaints are they give it a one star rating because it only fit 15,000 songs on it. 

So when I use a song, it's 600 to 700 megabytes where an MP three file can be, what, five megabytes, 30 megabytes? It's the smaller file. We're looking at 700 megabytes for one song. So that one song will fit on a whole CD. That's it. So I feel like what happens is when you compress the music in an MP3 file, you compress the waveforms. You kind of cut them off. And you're losing the integrity and the intention that the musician put into the music. 

So in some ways, can I say it's disrespectful to use MP3 files when you as a musician put your heart and soul into a piece of music and then someone just compresses it and cuts off the intention and the integrity of the music. And what I found is the nervous system then sees that as like binary code ones and zeros, zeros, ones, ones and zeros. The nervous system is sitting there going, was that a one? Was that a zero? Is that a one? 

And so you don't get the whole healing quality of it because the nervous system is thinking and not healing. So I have all these different comparisons for people to realize that 528 hertz on an MP3 file probably isn't 528 hertz. And it also depends on the speakers you're listening, the output. And so I really feel strongly that MP3 files are just not good.

Luke Storey: [00:46:59] Well, you see this resurgence in vinyl, which is great. That was one goal when we moved in this house. It's down the list of expenditures after got to put tile in. You know what I mean first? But I really at some point would like to get a tube vamp, really nice turntable, and I could probably live the rest of my life with the same 100 records. You know what I mean? I can pretty much write them down right now, meaning records that I think I would listen to for the rest of my life because I've listened to them thus far. 

So there's definitely something to that. And as you speak about the compression of the MP3s, it reminds me of Neil Young some years ago was putting out some kind of new alternative to an iPod, essentially. This going back probably 15 years. And so he was doing all these interviews describing what you're describing, how we're getting this facsimile of music. And so his intent was to put the density of a two inch analog tape, which is how they used to record music back in the day. Most of the records that most of us love were recorded that way and then digitized and then shrunk down. But he wanted to have a catalog of music available in its fullness. And I was like, oh, it was so interesting. But he was just fully anti MP3.

Gail Lynn: [00:48:17] Just like two years ago, he put out something about it too.

Luke Storey: [00:48:20] Oh, he did? Yeah, okay.

Gail Lynn: [00:48:21] He's still on the rampage. No more MP3 files. They're terrible.

Luke Storey: [00:48:24] I'll have to look it up and see if that player ever came, because it sounded really interesting because it was portable. You can do that at home with the tube amplifier and the vinyl and the whole thing. But if you want to be somewhere else, you'd need really good headphones. You need a player that's compatible with that density of file. 

Did you have a first iteration of the Egg that was more crude or did it include some of the harmonics? And I know we're going to talk about the light and the actual comfort of the zero gravity chair and all this stuff. Did you have like a one man out of plywood and two by fours in the garage along the way? What were the stumbling blocks that you ran into before you created this beautiful work of art that you have now?

Gail Lynn: [00:49:07] So I write about it a little bit in the book because it's funny. The gentleman's name was Wayman. He is, I think, the consciousness of Tesla. He's built devices that you can have for electricity. And he just does it. And he said, you just do this and this and you find 117 armatures and you just put the copper and it works like magic.
So he's got something going on that is a gift. So he walks into my office one day and I said, I have this idea for this large wooden egg. He said, "Can you draw it?" Yeah. I took classes in drafting and I took classes in AutoCAD and Unit graphics and Kalimah and I used to do this for automotive. 

So the next 15 minutes later, he's got a front view, a side view, a cross view, a top view. And he's like, okay, I guess you've figured this out. And I said, it needs to be this big and it really needs to have sacred geometry, the golden ratio, and different sacred geometric forms. And he said, "Well, I can build this for you. I don't have any tools."

So I said, "Well, if I buy you the tools, would that be payment enough for you building this Egg? And he said, "Yeah, buy the materials, buy the tools, and I'll build it for you." Okay. Sounds easy enough, right? So probably three tries later, he said, I can't do it. And we tried. I bought him a little steam thing to try to bend wood and we couldn't figure it out. 

And months had gone by. We threw away so many materials and we were building it out of the MDF wood, which is a pressed wood just because it's cheaper and I didn't know if it was going to work. And so finally he's like, "Well, how about we just build this dome?" I said, "No, it's not right." So how they're synchronicities and weird things that come along. We just couldn't figure out how to build it. 

So there was one trick that I learned by just a random website came up from a mall in England and it popped into my head, this is how we're going to do it. So I called him back. He quit. I fired him twice. He quit twice. We had these knockdown, drag out fights. He's like, "I can't do it." I'm like, "Just get out of here then." And so it was just so funny. So he says, okay, we're going to do it. So we end up building it. And it looked horrible. The light string was just hanging from the top. We had the horse. Is it called the Seahorse or sawhorse. So the door was propped up with that. It looked like it was going to fall down on you inside there.

People were getting in like, "Are you sure I can try this out?" "Yeah. Yeah, it's safe. Sure. Get in there." But we had great speakers. We had a great sub. I had a sound engineer. I had a light engineer working with me so we could put together the components that would work in that cubic air space, the small. And we had DOs test it and healers test it and all kinds of acupuncturist Chinese medicine people. And they're like, "This thing works." I'm like, "But it's ugly."

So I called another company and I said can you make this? They said, "No, you can't make a large wooden egg. It's wood." And it just going to be too hard to do. I said, "Well then. Walt Disney said, 'If you can dream it, you can do it.'" And he said to me, "You're not Walt Disney."

Luke Storey: [00:52:27] Oh, man.

Gail Lynn: [00:52:28] But he's the one that builds them for me now because I said, I have one here and he's in Kansas. And he said, no. I took a picture of it. He said, I'm coming down. So he drove 7 hours and he did like a FaceTime video with his son. And he's like, "This is where we're going to have problems." And he was kind of putting show on the pictures and it's now a reality.

Luke Storey: [00:52:52] Did you ever think about using molded plastic or 3-D printed materials or something? Why didn't you just make it easy on yourself and do that?

Gail Lynn: [00:52:59] So Wood doesn't hold information or energy? Wood is a living material. And the Egg has become a living consciousness and living technology. And I think it had to be wood for the acoustics. The music, bouncing off plastic or metal just sounds to me. And the download that I had was definitely wood and the MDF wood because they pressed together a bunch of different types of wood. When I got in there, you almost could hear lots of different trees and energies talking. 

And I thought we have to use just one solid piece of wood because of that energy. So a lot of stuff went through my head about plastic molding and stereolithography, 3D printing, things like that. But it couldn't be plastic. It needed to be wood.

Luke Storey: [00:53:53] And when you say you got this download, was this on one particular instance in a meditation or something of that nature where the Egg appeared to you and you didn't know how to do it, but you saw what it looked like or how it could work? Or was it something that kind of came to you over time?

Gail Lynn: [00:54:09] It was over time, for sure, but I saw the 360 degrees of healing, and I didn't know what that looked like. I thought maybe it was like contact. When you get in the egg, it's like, okay, to go. Okay to go, right? That's what it feels like to me. The first time I was in there, I was like, okay to go. Okay to go. 

And so over time, it started to come. I'm like, "Oh, the Egg." And then I would randomly get a video from Victor Schauberger, which I didn't even know who he was. He talks about the Cosmic Egg, and the most powerful shape in the universe is the Egg. And so I got most of it, and then there was a time where I got stuck. I just couldn't get the rest of it. And the funniest gift that the universe gave me was a car accident. And I feel like my guys were, "Oh, God, we've got to do this to her."

And they're looking down at me and they're put me in an intersection and they're like, we're just going to have to slip her into another reality right now. And just I got smacked 60 miles an hour on my driver's side and spun around the intersection. Everybody that came to the car, I knew them except this one guy. I said, "Oh, it's so good to see you again." He's like, "I don't know you." And I knew everybody at that moment. It was so beautiful. So I tell people, I got this accident. It was the best thing that ever happened to me. But it took me to a different place. And then the rest of the Egg came through at that point.

Luke Storey: [00:55:30] Oh, interesting. So kind of an NDE experience where somebody leaves their body to some degree and comes back with information. It's interesting, there's another gentleman, this guy, Jerry, that I interviewed who makes something called the Rorschach. And he had overdosed on a bunch of drugs and left his body. And he reports that he was floating above his body. And while he was there, he downloaded all of these mathematics and all of this data basically, and came back and sometime later ended up using much of that information to produce his technology, which like yours, is very unique and novel and effective.

So I think that's interesting. Sometimes life throws us into the quantum without our voluntarily going there. You can meditate, you can take psychedelics. There's a lot of ways to get access to the greater field of information. But it's interesting when it happens to you. You're not sitting down like, okay, I want to access the ethos and all the information in the universe. It's like, boom, here I get hit by a train. There you go. Wow. Did you sustain any physical injuries in that experience?

Gail Lynn: [00:56:42] So my mentor that built a light box said, if you can hit a trauma within 6 hours, the cells don't have time to remember it. So I remember thinking. I remember this happened in the intersection of my center, so I could see the clients that were waiting to have their sessions while I'm waiting for the cops to do their little traffic investigation. And I'm like, "I got to go. I got to go."

They're like, "Are you okay?" I said, "No, I'm not okay. Don't write down. I'm okay, but I've got to get to work." And the cops looking at me like I'm a crazy person. He's like, "Let me walk you across the street." I'm like, "No, I'm fine." I clearly wasn't fine. I couldn't move my neck. And so it's just kind of one of those kind of things I'm like, I got to get to my clients. This is what I do. I serve these clients. Well, I had a full day and just coincidentally my 2:00 canceled. And so this was about 10:30 in the morning, 10:00, 10:30. And so I was able to get in to the light box.

And the only thing that I really still have is I think there's some scar tissue that happened because I was hit so hard and the airbag went off here. I still have a line that I can see in my vision. I think that's just scar tissue from the accident. But other than that, this would have been an injury that would have caused a TBI or a traumatic brain injury. I've seen clients that had a similar accident, so I feel so lucky. I feel like so blessed. I feel like my guides were really there supporting me. And then the other funny thing about it was that I didn't have any money, really. I was, how am I going to fund this whole building an Egg? 

State Farm called me up. They said our client ran through the red light and hit you. It wasn't my fault. So we have to do a settlement. I'm like I said, no, I'm not suing anybody. "No, no, no. We have to do a settlement." The check I got was exactly what I spent on building the research and development of the Egg, the exact amount.

Luke Storey: [00:58:30] That's quite a leap of faith. Some people would be like, "I'm buying a Porsche."

Gail Lynn: [00:58:36] When that much.

Luke Storey: [00:58:37] Some big screen TVs or something, take a trip to the Bahamas. That's so interesting. Well, that speaks to your commitment to the download. You could have found out how much money it was. You could have done anything else with it other than investing something that had no real prospects where you don't know if it's going to work, if it's marketable, if people are going to resonate with it, if it's going to have widespread appeal and all of that. So kudos to you for following your intuition. 

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Gail Lynn: [01:01:26] So I've read a lot and of course, what we read and what is true, we don't know. But I've read a lot about Tesla's mathematics and that the sweet spot is the number six. I've always resonated with three. And then some people say his favorite number was nine. So things that I've read is if you can unlock the secrets to three, six and nine, you'll know all the mysteries of the universe. So somehow this needs to be in there because it just be fun, right? 

So when you look at the outside of the Egg, it's paneled with 12 sides kind of a dodecahedron, two dimensional dodecahedron. And so two plus one is three. And then we created a hexagon platform for the chair to sit on. And the guys, when they first built it, they just made a circle. And I said, that's not right. They said, why isn't it right? I said, I don't know. I just had the feeling that clear sentence. I think you just know that I said, it has to be the hexagon. And they said, "Why?"

"I don't know. Just do it that way. I'm just asking you to do it that way." Well, that's six sided. So there's the six. And then later on, I learned that the center of a hexagon is a portal. So where does the chair sit? Right in the center on our portal. Brilliant. Brilliant. Like from them brilliant, not me. And then 360 degrees simply is a nine. So there's the circle that you look at when you're leaning back in the zero gravity chair that almost looks like an eclipse.

Luke Storey: [01:02:51] Yeah. The circle with the recess lighting.

Gail Lynn: [01:02:55] The illuminated light. So there's 360 in there, and then the 360 inside the shape of the egg is the nine. And then I felt like so much work of advocacy had to come through in the consciousness and then royal life and Wilhelm Reich with the Orgone  box. And if you look at the claims that Wilhelm Reich makes with the Orgone box, it's really similar to what we see happening with the success of the people that come out of the Egg. 

And we had one gentleman who owns a center in Santa Clarita, said that his client came out and was telling him that there was an old man that was smoking energetically. She saw him inside the Egg and immediately knew it was Royal Rife. And she said he was like a just a Dale's in there trying to figure things out. So my friend Steven Ross, who owns the World Research Foundation in Sedona, that library that's just huge, he's got some of test Royal Rife lab books in his own handwriting and some of Tesla's books.

And so I had to go and sit in the library just with that energy and just absorb that energy for the consciousness of that beautiful soul. He and his wife, Deborah, beautiful souls, I love them, and they just gifted me with being able to just sit with all that energy and all those books. It was amazing.

Luke Storey: [01:04:18] Oh, and there's an Egg in Sedona, right?

Gail Lynn: [01:04:22] No.

Luke Storey: [01:04:22] There's not? That's funny. I was like, "There's got to be one there."

Gail Lynn: [01:04:26] We got an inquiry today, which is hilarious.

Luke Storey: [01:04:28] That's cool. That's cool. Yeah, I guess I didn't find one when we were there, and I feel like I looked for everything interesting along those lines. Okay, so thank you for decoding the 3, 6, 9 thing. And then what about you looking into the history of heliotherapy and how you knew that you had to bring light into this equation?

Gail Lynn: [01:04:49] That was interesting because I didn't really realize how the sun could heal and how we get all these different light colors from the sun, the full spectrum of light colors. And when I was on Gaia TV with Regina Meredith, all of a sudden I just went into the space and I remembered in Egypt 3,000 years ago when I lived there, that the sun was used at different times of the day for healing, and it felt like it was like the noon time when it was the most powerful for healing. 

So I started looking at healing therapy and different therapies that there's so many beautiful therapies out there now. And I love that we're seeing more noninvasive modalities and people are walking away and stepping away from the medications that just cause side effects. And we don't really get to the root cause. So the sun and nature so natural. Why not use what we have already been given to us from Mother Gaia?

Luke Storey: [01:05:52] It's interesting, early, early on in the podcast, I interviewed a woman named Nadine Artemus, who has a company called Living Libations, make great body care stuff, and she's a big sun worshipper and sun advocate. And she was telling me about heliotherapy hospitals that used to exist back in the day, and they were treating kids with polio and all kinds of stuff. And essentially they would just wheel their beds out into the sun all day. 

That was the hospital. It's a sun hospital. And I guess it was actually somewhat common. And it's interesting when you think about now how far we've strayed from using these energies that nature provides. If you walk in a hospital, yeah, you're getting a lot of light, but it's like the most toxic flickering, narrow spectrum, blue light and all the EMFs. And God bless hospitals if I ever need to go to one, I'm glad that they're there. 

But in terms of chronic conditions, obviously they're not doing a great job by and large. But yeah, it's like how did we lose that? If this was something that was effective? Sure, then we have chemo and whatever else has been invented, why don't you use all of it instead of sequestering people into these boxes, these cubes that litter our cities? It's just crazy. 

So how did you integrate chromotherapy, heliotherapy? I guess heliotherapy is technically the sun. So using different colors of light, how did you determine which colors you wanted to use and when and how do they illuminate the Egg for those listening that haven't yet tried it? I know from being in there, when I went to the Ophilia Center, I was like, "Oh, I'm going to use yellow or whatever it was." And there it was, but I didn't really dig much deeper into it.

Gail Lynn: [01:07:30] So when I was putting together the training manual and all the different types of music, I was looking at the waveforms of the instruments as we were talking about, but then the colors of the chakras. So we know that if there's an imbalance in the root chakra, it could manifest into knee issues, eyesight issues, hearing issues, teeth issues, because that's our survival chakra. So when you're looking at that, you're saying, okay, we need to chew and use our teeth for survival. All of our senses are for survival, walking and moving forward, knees survival. 

So I was looking at what are the physical ailments that are caused when there's an imbalance in the chakra? And so I looked at each of the different chakras and there's tons of different ideas. So some people say, green is for the liver, and some people say orange, some people say yellow. But I also had to see what worked with the cubic airspace of the Egg and the sacred geometry of the Egg. 

So what I've found out is orange is going to work with the liver and flute music. So and I would tell them, somebody comes out and they're like, I could feel that in my liver. I could really feel what was happening. And so I took everything I could find about the chakras and the tones of the chakras and the astrology of somebody born at a certain time and what tone could they be missing. If they're a Leo, they could be missing the E tone and the color of yellow, because on the planet at that moment in time, we could have been depleted of the E tone and yellow. 

So I was just really digging deep with Ani Williams and Kay Gardner, so many different beautiful souls that have put this great information forward. And then I feel like I'm the private investigator pulling all these pieces of the puzzle and figuring out, okay, how do I bring all this beautiful work together and incorporate it into the Egg?

Luke Storey: [01:09:19] That's cool. I relate to that. I feel like I'm a private investigator/researcher, but I just find people like you and then you get to learn all the stuff and I just go, "Hey, look at her, guys. Listen to her because you figured it out."

Yeah, it's interesting because in the light element, the color element in the Egg, I'm assuming most people like me lay there with their eyes closed. And I remember in this last session, I thought, "Wow, the colors are in here. Maybe I need to have my eyes open so I can actually get that benefit." Do you think that your body and your auric field in there being exposed to the color does the trick without actually having to see it optically?

Gail Lynn: [01:10:00] So if you look at some of the Dr. Lieberman and some eye doctors in his book, he talks about you have to absorb the colors through your eyes. But I didn't resonate with that. And so I found that the way I rationalized it and the analogy is when you're laying in the sun, you don't have to have your eyes open. You don't have to be looking at the sun. You can absorb all that beautiful energy through your energy field. And so you don't not have to have your eyes open in the Egg to get the benefit of the lights.

Luke Storey: [01:10:30] Okay, cool. I'm going to try to relay my experience of the Egg, and then I want to find out-- you have some testimonials in your books been around for a while now, but I'm curious to hear about other people's experience. My experience of the Egg the first couple of times was, it was a little bit like a cross between a really deep meditation and a very light psychedelic experience. And psychedelic not in that I was seeing visuals or anything like that, but that I was still in a deeper state than I would be on my best day of meditation after meditating for a long time.
So I imagined what was going on was that I walk in and beta brainwaves are going, I'm alert, I'm checking in, I'm talking to people, I get in there, breathe a little bit. The music starts to come on, the light is there. And then I feel myself pass through alpha. It's a little creative feeling, but I'm still alert. And then I go into my favorite brainwave state theta, where I think of theta as your body's asleep, but your mind's awake. You have that dissociative, really relaxed feeling where you're kind of forgetting about your body, but your consciousness starts to explore and expand, and you get ideas and visions and obscure memories that come out of nowhere. And you're like, "Wow, how did I remember that?"

So each experience I've had has been a little bit different. But I would say that's the predominant experience overall is just like super, super relaxing. And then the mind wanders as if you're in a daydream, kind of like that half asleep, half awake effect. So I guess my question to that would be a, have you done any brainwave studies or studying any other physical biometrics? And then maybe you could just share some of the experiences that you've had yourself anecdotally or that you've received in feedback from the many, I'm sure, hundreds of people that are using this thing around the world.

Gail Lynn: [01:12:32] Yeah, like thousands now. It's crazy. It's so crazy. So it's like going to the level below the level of consciousness at an awakened state. And I believe that's where the nervous system can heal. The autonomic nervous system can heal when it's in balance and when you're relaxed. And so I've had similar experiences, and I love my Egg sessions because you really are in a daydream. But you're awake, but you're in that hypnagogic state where some people tell me, "Oh, it felt like 15 minutes."

But yet it's 50 total. And time doesn't really exist in there. So the last session that I was doing, I just did one before I came here to Texas, and it was just so lovely. I was just floaty. And time was just going by, but I didn't really connect with time. And I call it Chivas on steroids, kind like that.

Luke Storey: [01:13:27] Yeah, that's good. Totally. Totally.

Gail Lynn: [01:13:29] And one time I was in there and I saw this little ball with a face, it almost like an animated smiley face just bouncing all around inside the Egg. And I thought, "What is that?" But as soon as I identified with it, I realized it was my little atoms, molecules, atoms flying around. But sometimes as soon as you identify with it, it goes away. So all that's a waterfall. And even if it wasn't, all of a sudden it's gone because you've identified with it and then it's gone. And that's a hard part for me. I want to guess what that is and figure it out. 

As far as testing goes, we haven't really done a lot of brainwave testing. We've done heart rate variability testing, We've done pre and post GDV camera, the gas discharge visualization camera. We've worked with David Hawkins scale, which [Inaudible 01:14:20].

Luke Storey: [01:14:21] Oh, nice. Yeah, I'm a huge Hawkins' fan.

Gail Lynn: [01:14:22] Yeah, Dr. Steve uses his science with the frequencies to pre and post test people. So we would send people to him and he was pre and post testing people and seeing that some people would live in the space of love, but if they weren't they'd go to the space of love and joy and happiness. And I really believe that disease doesn't live there. Disease doesn't live in love. It lives in hate and anger and discontent and all these other places. But it doesn't live in love.

Luke Storey: [01:14:56] Yeah, especially in the self-love when you think about the shame that's associated with trauma, macro and micro traumas, the things you shared that you went through. Even if you've intellectually let go of your resentment toward your transgressors and you've forgiven them, as you said, that trauma can still live in the cells of your body. So you might think, oh, it was in the past. I got the lessons from it, but your body doesn't yet know that. 

And if you haven't even gotten to that place, you could still have an underlying sense of shame, which is depleting your self-love and your ability to heal thyself and kind of creating the perfect storm in some cases for people that get these mystery chronic conditions and things like that. To me, it's-- and this isn't to victim shame people who are chronically ill, but I've observed in my own life and in the lives of people that I know that oftentimes the unhealed trauma does, in fact, manifest as something that is perplexing the medical field-- autoimmune stuff, even Lyme things and all kinds of stuff that's kind of hard to heal because it's hard to identify. And the origins of that, I think, have a lot to do with just the trapped memories in your cells.

Gail Lynn: [01:16:11] And definitely don't want to discount anybody's chronic illness either, but I was listening to the podcast with Zach Bush that you did. And he said, the epidemic of autoimmune and then he related it to self sabotage, which I never really related before. I thought God gives us a perfect body and it would never attack itself. But somehow this autoimmune, it's the body attacking itself. And it's a real thing, so is Lyme disease and everything else. 

But it was just interesting because I thought it's probably an underlying viral load that the medical field hasn't picked up yet. And they just named it autoimmune and said, "Oh, sorry, your body's attacking itself, nothing we can do to help you." But when he said, maybe self sabotage, it just brought up that from trauma. And when you just mentioned shame I was telling your staff here before the podcast that there was a gentleman who was our waiter last night at the restaurant, and he said he was just carrying around so much shame. People sometimes probably with you too just want to tell you their story. Just random people walk up to you and tell you their story. 

So he says, "I'm just carrying around so much shame because my mom is a PhD and I went to school and got kicked out. I just just don't have the smarts that she has." But you could tell he was a super go getter. And I said, "Stop carrying the shame around. Just stop." There's just not enough people who would support with love a stranger in the world today. It seems it's all for one and one for all, every man for themselves. And we just don't have enough love that we're really supporting each other. 

We are all connected. We are all one. And I'm sharing cells and energy with you right now. And so I said stop carrying around the shame and explain to him a couple of stories that were really inspiring to him. I said, "I'm just this little Detroit girl and I've created this thing and they're all over the world now." And he's like, "What?" And I said, "You have a dream, you have a passion. You can do it." And it was just cute because I told my boyfriend I was like, "Just give him $100 tip." And he's like, "No."

His first thing is, no. And and I said, "Just do it." He said, "Your bookkeeper is not going to like this. Your CBS is not going like this." But I listen to your podcast with Danielle about bragging about something or inspiring somebody to do this. And I didn't want any credit for it. So I'm like, let's sign the bill and run out the door because I don't want him coming back and saying, thank you. Thank you. No big deal. I gave it to him to not get anything in return. 

But this guy was so hurt at a soul level from the shame of his mom. And he was carrying that around. And he doesn't need to. He's brilliant and lovely. And so I just thought, oh, my gosh. When he gave us the bill, he said your words meant more than any money that I could have ever gotten today.

Luke Storey: [01:19:17] That's a pretty deep conversation to have with the server.

Gail Lynn: [01:19:20] Right. It seems like everywhere I go, I have these crazy conversations with people.

Luke Storey: [01:19:24] I do, too. I do it for a living.

Gail Lynn: [01:19:27] It's fine. Yeah.

Luke Storey: [01:19:28] But sometimes out in the world too, but it's like what else is there to talk about? Small talk is excruciating.

Gail Lynn: [01:19:34] Oh, God, yeah.

Luke Storey: [01:19:36] It's difficult. That's why these podcasts are rarely the standard 60 minutes because there's not really small talk. But I do like to get to know someone as I got to know you and your back story today. And then we get into the real meat of the topic. So what are some of the-- and I know obviously this is not a medical device. We can't make medical claims of it curing people of this or that. 

But I know just anecdotally myself, my experience, although I haven't had any chronic illness or anything serious going in there, but I talk to people who have done it, oh, this person had this, this person had that. And now they've healed themselves with the assistance of that energy field. So to whatever degree you feel comfortable, maybe you could share some of the miracles or close to miracles that you've seen along your journey here with the Egg.

Gail Lynn: [01:20:22] Oh, there's been so many that I can't even believe myself. I look at it and I say happened in there? And look at the Egg and I look at the person. I just can't believe it. We recently have a center owner in Maryland and his wife is a medical doctor and she had a stroke and he didn't think that she was going to recover. She's older, so he didn't think she was going to recover as quickly as she did. And I'm not even sure if she believed in the Egg because of her training and everything. You get the mentality of, okay, this is how things are supposed to work and they don't work this way. 

But he said after a couple of sessions, remote sessions even, which is crazy in my engineering head, he said she was driving herself to her doctor's appointments again. I know our body is beautiful. I know God gave us perfect bodies. I know our bodies can heal themselves. I know that. I know if I break a bone, it's going to heal. I know if I cut myself, it's going to scab over and heal. Why have we been so duped into believing that there's other illnesses we can't heal from? That's my question for people. And I think they start thinking about how hoodwinked we've gotten. And--

Luke Storey: [01:21:38] That's a good word.

Gail Lynn: [01:21:40] I learned that from my Australian friend.

Luke Storey: [01:21:42] I like that.

Gail Lynn: [01:21:44] And so we see people come in with, say, maybe they have the big C, which I hate to use because it's such a moneymaker. So we don't make any claims or guarantees. It's a relaxation device, wink, wink, just take the body out of stress, which is the number one killer anyway. 

But they're coming back with reports that the tumors are shrinking and or they're gone or they're encapsulating. So there's different ways that the body will deal with these things based on the rules of your body, because there is no one size fits all. Everybody has a different rule. I can eat things you can't or vice versa. I can do things that you can't and vice versa. And so we all have a different rule for our body and there is no one size fits all. 

What the Egg can do is it can pick up where the body is damaged energetically. So there's an Egg field and there's a human field and they interact together in that cubic air space with the scalar waves in the resonant chamber. And there's this magic that happens because there's really not a test that you can test subtle energies at this point. I don't know of any machine you can set up and test the subtle energies of things. We've had pendulum people and dowsing people kind of test for us. 

The one gentleman that I start the book out with, his name is Tiqui, become like my brother. And he basically came in just destitute. He came in in a wheelchair. Wayman, the one that built the prototype Egg, brought him in. And Tiqui said, "I want to get better. I have one dead kidney, one that's functioning at 20%. I can't walk. And they want to put me on dialysis for the rest of my life."

And I said, "Well, how bad do you want it? Because I can't want the healing more than you want it for yourself." So he kind of thought, "Well, who's this little girl, Gail, telling me what to do?" And it was almost like a reverse child psychology thing, because when it came out, I said for any kind of kidney problems, you want to stop the animal protein to help the kidneys to heal. So you have to do a little bit of stuff for yourself as well. Drink a lot of water, stay hydrated, stay away from the Oreo cookies and the ice cream and get a little bit of exercise.

And he's like, "Well, you're not going to tell me what to do." I said, "Well, then just stop wasting my time and your money. Don't come back." And he was like, "Excuse me?" He said, "I'm coming back." And I really wasn't trying the psychology to it. It just happened that way. And so he kept coming back. His one kidney was no longer dead. The other kidney was at 60%. The Veterans Hospital Marine, was for whatever reason, measuring his heart. And they told them his heart grew by a centimeter, which I don't know what that means. They couldn't understand why he was still alive. He had lost about 160 pounds, and this was all over maybe six months. 

And he was walking, driving again. I can understand it, but I can't. I know our bodies are amazing. I know they can heal themselves. But what really happened in there? And he says, "You saved my life." I said, "No, I didn't. You saved your own life by just listening to what I was asking you to do to save your own life."

Luke Storey: [01:25:13] That's a really interesting perspective. It's not your technology that's doing the healing. It's-- and I'm going to kind of frame what I think your experience of it is, is more like you're creating a field that allows the body to go and do a deep enough state of relaxation that it can heal itself because it has the blueprint for a perfect kidney. It's there and it's encoded in your DNA. 

And I like to use the example of breaking a bone. When we say break our femur, we have to create the conditions for which that bone can heal. So we put a cast on it. We get crutches, we don't walk on it. We're in a wheelchair, whatever the case may be. We just stop applying pressure to that bone and allow it to fuse back and magically you have bone where there was no bone and it's something that's really important, I think, for us to illuminate, because people often don't think of their internal organs in the same way. 

I didn't really until you framed it that way. And I thought, oh, so if I'm having kidney, heart, gallbladder, liver, prostate, whatever, then there is some state that I can hopefully find to allow my body, just like I would a broken leg to heal. And if you're in an energy field with all of these potent music tones and you have that sound element, you have the light element, and you have the geometry that's kind of facilitating these scalar waves, seems like a pretty good environment to allow your body to do what it wants to do, anyway, which is get back to homeostasis and wholeness.

Gail Lynn: [01:26:46] Yeah, absolutely. And that's what I try to teach the center owners in my training for them, just because we name things, we have diseases like ichthyosis, we just name these things. I don't know where these names come from, but we name everything in the body doesn't know disease by name. But if you look at what organ it's affecting, you can dive down into the root cause. So lungs' grief, liver anger, pancreas worry. 

You start looking at what organ is being affected and what emotions could be coming up that we need to now use the tone of D because that's where the physical correlate comes in. You're missing the tone of D, and then all of a sudden you have this issue. So I try to teach them to really dive deep into the root cause of what's going on, to use the proper colors and music selections that have been designed for the Egg, to work, to help the body to innately heal itself, which we know it can do.

Luke Storey: [01:27:47] Over the years, I've learned the hard way how important biomarker testing is, especially if you spend a lot of money on supplements that you don't need, or even worse yet, ones that aren't right for your personal biology. This is why you'll often hear proponents of testing like myself say, test don't guess. Well, there's a super rad company I use called Viome. You might recall their CEO, Naveen Jain, on the show back on Episode 213. He's an incredibly brilliant scientist and problem solver. 

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What else does your training entail? Because in my recent trip to the Ophelia Center here, I showed up, I think two or 3 minutes late. I'm like running in there. And I expected her to go, okay, here's the Egg. Go. And we sat down and she did the toning test and asked me a bunch of questions. And I'm pretty comfortable talking about my internal experience and what I'm working on. And I think my intention was overall to just increase my capacity for creativity and also specifically the creativity of a baby. It's a pretty big intention to set, but I think that's what's on the menu for me right now, is just allowing access to just create more and more, which is what I like to do for fun. And it happens to be what I do for a living. 

But it was probably a 30 minute intake. And she went through all this protocol, and I didn't know at the time how much of that was just hers and how much of it was your training. So if somebody right now is listening and think, "Oh my God, I'm going to buy one of these and open a center, which now there's people all over doing that," what does the training entail and how long does that take you to get someone set up where they can become a provider?

Gail Lynn: [01:30:44] So not every center will do the voice analysis. So I want to say that to your listeners, because they might go into a center. Well, I heard that not every center does the voice analysis before and after every center does an intake. And they try to drill down, what is your intention for today? Is it to heal from a chronic illness or is it to find a new job or a new partner or some different level of happiness? 

So they're actually trained to help the client to set an intention for themselves so that when two or more are gathered together, we're holding the space for you and you're holding the space for yourself for that intention. And I will tell them I'm like, just feel what it would feel like and all the cells of your being to be so excited to get up and go to your job or do what you do for a career. And it's almost like a manifestation Egg. And intention is so important. Jonathan Goldman talks about intention.

And so we incorporate the intention of the Egg into the whole session so that we can hold that space for you and you can hold the space for yourself. We've had children, autistic children, where they are talking after a session and they couldn't talk before. But the parent says, "I'd really like to see my child have some language, be able to contribute to society and people can understand him or her."

And so we'll say, let's hold that intention. What would it feel like to all the cells of your being if your child could talk again? And we help hold that attention. It's been Susie Miller's work, the book, Awesomeism for autism. She's been really influential and teaching me things. It's just been a wonderful journey. And this intake is very important to help the client to set that intention for what it is they want and the different quality of life.

Luke Storey: [01:32:41] Cool. Wow.

Gail Lynn: [01:32:42] But not everyone does the same testing before and after. Some people use the biowell. So if you want to purchase an Egg, you basically make an inquiry and it's not really an interview, but it is. I don't want just any old person to be an Egg owner. This device is built like the Taj Mahal with intention and love. And people feel that love and all the Egg owners just they love their Egg, they name their Egg. They have plants in the room. They nurture their Egg with water fountains in the room. Some of them it's so beautiful.
And when you surround something with love and love heals all. I feel like it's been a bit of an Egg network or an Egg grid where all the Eggs are now connected.

Luke Storey: [01:33:30] It'd be cool to see an overlay map of the earth and see where they all ended up, where I draw lines.

Gail Lynn: [01:33:37] Well, you know the map of Enoch, right? There's a map of Enoch, and there's the wings of the dove. And when we first started, I was mapping out where all the locations were going into. And I thought, well, Alpharetta, Georgia, as a location, I'm like, "It can't be Alpharetta, Georgia." They were all going into the Wings of the Dove. I'm not going to like, "Oh, there's so many now." I haven't really mapped it out. But those beginning ones, they were going on fault lines in California. The one lady, she said it needs to help heal the land here and Castro Valley. It's like, "What? What is happening here?"

Luke Storey: [01:34:10] Wow. For those listening too, you can find more information at lukestorey.com/harmonicegg, lukestorey.com/harmonicegg for people that are interested in finding one to buy themselves if they're well-heeled enough to do so or if they want to find a center and all that. So that's where we'll put the information for this. How many private owners would you say are out there versus people that have actually created a business around this practitioner wise?

Gail Lynn: [01:34:41] I think there's about four in people's homes. So that's why I created the new lift technology, because it's a sound and light capsule that will fit in the home. As you said earlier, the Harmonic Egg is 11 foot by 11 foot by seven foot. It's huge. It's about 14 by 14 room.

Luke Storey: [01:34:59] It's bigger than a float tank.  I want to get a float tank here. And I'm like, I don't know where I'm going to put it. It might fit in the garage barely, but the Egg would be a stretch.

Gail Lynn: [01:35:07] Yeah. So there's people who have said, can you do something for the home so we can have it in the home? And I thought, well, I don't really know. I thought I would never invent something else. So all of a sudden this download came through that it's going to help. This home device is going to help generations of people. When you're angry with your spouse or your partner or your child, I called it the let it flow therapy, the lift. So you can just go get a lift. 

And I feel like what it's going to do is help generations of people maybe shift the way that they would speak to each other, maybe not say things that you're going to regret for your life. Maybe just go get a lift, maybe help with domestic violence, suicide rates, and help these children from being emotionally abused or physically abused by their parents, which will help them not follow that same pattern and abuse their children. So I feel like there's generations of families that will be helped from just having it in the home.

Luke Storey: [01:36:10] I'm glad you mentioned that. I forgot about that. I think you texted me a rendering of it. And it's more rather than kind of an elongated Egg that you sit back and it looked to be more of a chamber, almost like a sauna, like my sauna back there, kind of a rectangle structure that stands up.

Gail Lynn: [01:36:30] I always say it looks like the little bank thing that you put in the slot and it scoots up. Scoots like a capsule.

Luke Storey: [01:36:35] And so--

Gail Lynn: [01:36:36] You just open the door and go in.

Luke Storey: [01:36:37] So with the home model that is not an Egg but stands upright, I'm assuming there's sacred geometry in that. And does it have the speakers like the Egg does in a sound capsule, or is it just the energetics and you do whatever you want to do with the sound?

Gail Lynn: [01:36:52] There's a Bluetooth speaker. The Egg has two speakers on the parabola the Egg, but this one just going to have a Bluetooth speaker and then one light system instead of the two. And the dimensions are all sacred geometry or divisible by 3, 6, 9. So I created it that way.

Luke Storey: [01:37:07] Oh, cool. Yeah, cool. So that'll be something that's probably more practical for people to have at home.

Gail Lynn: [01:37:11] They're more affordable too.

Luke Storey: [01:37:12] Yeah. Okay. And so do you know approximately how many centers there are around the world?

Gail Lynn: [01:37:19] I want to say there's 110 now around the world.

Luke Storey: [01:37:22] Wow. Damn, you're growing fast.

Gail Lynn: [01:37:25] It's crazy. Who would have thought people are going to line up to buy a large one an Egg.

Luke Storey: [01:37:29] Well, or that they'd be able to make a business out of it. To me, it's a no brainer. You know what I mean? If I didn't do what I do, I'd probably have a center with the Egg and a bunch of cool stuff like that. I've thought about that, but I'm on my path and I'm enjoying it. But people would be able to make actually a viable business just around that because both Egg centers that I've been to just have that. It's not like they have red light therapy and saunas. It's like, no, you come here and all you're doing here is sitting in the Harmonic Egg, which is pretty wild.

Gail Lynn: [01:38:00] It is crazy, but if you look at where we've come even in the last 10 years, which is a very short amount of time, people are gravitating to sound and light therapy and the red light therapy and Reiki and energy medicine, and they're almost becoming addicted to it. It's been a very interesting journey because you would think that that would take thousands of years, but it really hasn't. But it's a thousands of year old technology, but it just been suppressed.

Luke Storey: [01:38:30] Yeah, and we need it now. Life is so stressful. Even if you have a good life and you're a happy person and you're working on yourself, I'm always surprised that the shit that I say happens to me, but just the things I encounter in life, just drama that was seemingly uninvited, just business stuff and just dealing with the matrix of the world and the past two and a half years, of course, has been insane for so many of us. If you're just like a functional, happy person, just life is very stressful.

Gail Lynn: [01:39:00] Well, I told the waiter yesterday, I'm like, my whole life's a vacation. But that doesn't mean I don't have stress. A center owner needs something, and now I have 100 people depending on me, and I basically been nurturing them all. But I'm telling them now I can't be everything to everybody anymore. 

And I'm just now starting to ignore emails and it's killing me because I just can't be everything to anybody and everybody and still have balance in my life and stay healthy. Because if I'm not healthy, I'm not good for anybody.

Luke Storey: [01:39:31] I remember when we spoke maybe a year ago or something where we were talking about doing the podcast and trying to time it when we'd both be in the same place. And you said, "Let's hold off on doing it because we have a massive back order in production right now." So if anyone hears it, they won't be able to get an Egg for quite a while. Did you manage to catch up with the scaling of the number of people that want these and what's your production time look like these days?

Gail Lynn: [01:39:55] So now it's 3 to 6 months. 4 to 6 months, probably better. We now have manufacturing in Canada, Europe. We're manufacturing the first one in Thailand now. It's gone crazy.

Luke Storey: [01:40:08] Wow, Cool. So you actually just make it in other countries instead of making it here?

Gail Lynn: [01:40:13] We still have the manufacture in the US in Kansas, but we had to expand because at one point we did have a two year wait.

Luke Storey: [01:40:19] Wow. Okay. Cool.

Gail Lynn: [01:40:21] People would call up and say, "Well, I don't know what I'm going to be doing tomorrow. So thanks."

Luke Storey: [01:40:25] That's quite a commitment. What am I going to do in two years? I would be remiss if I didn't ask you, and I'm sure that you're not condoning this behavior, and I'm being serious because I really don't think you would be, as I've gotten to know you a little bit. Have there been any reports of people combining the use of psychedelics or plant medicines with the Egg? Have you heard negative consequences, positive? What's your take on that or your knowledge of that in general?

Gail Lynn: [01:40:52] So I believe that each modality or drug, if you choose to use it, should be used individually and not together, because I think you confuse the body when you start putting, like people would come I having a me day and I did Reiki and I did a massage and I did acupuncture and now I'm doing my Egg session, I think that's just too much on the body. It'd be like eating breakfast, lunch, and dinner all at the same time and not letting it digest. So I tell them, let it integrate. 

If you use pot, I say, don't come in high because you get a natural high from the Egg. Let it do its thing and then do your thing at another time. Even the infrared sauna, it's energy work. So I tell people, the Egg detoxes you and so does the infrared sauna. So don't use them together. Respect every modality. Ask your practitioner, how many days should I let this integrate just to make sure I get the full benefit from a, what I paid for and the exchange of energy that they gave to you. They gave you their energy to do Reiki on you. And if you go into the Egg the next day, you basically cancelled out that whole Reiki session because you didn't let it integrate properly.

Luke Storey: [01:42:03] Got it.

Gail Lynn: [01:42:04] So I tell people, just use things responsibly, be discerning, but I have no judgment for what people want to use. But when people would come into my center and they smelled like marijuana, I would say, "I don't really want to put you in the Egg high. You're going to get your natural high."

Luke Storey: [01:42:19] You're going to get paranoid. Let me out of here. I was curious about that. I know there's someone out there that was like, "Yeah, one day I took mushrooms and went and sat in the Egg." I personally, I have I think a very healthy respect for plant medicines and psychedelics. So even as reckless as I've been in my life, I don't think that I would be inclined to mix energies in that way. I would just want a very sacred tightly held container in an experience like that. 

But it does cross my mind. I'm like, well, if this thing's awesome and this thing's awesome, why not? And I do a lot of things that way, but not so much when you get into the energy technologies and psychedelics and things. I think there's definitely some prudence that would be advised there.

Gail Lynn: [01:43:10] I just say, "I love all the modalities coming out." People ask me every day, "Have you heard of the XYZ machine and the EEA system and just different things. And I say, "I know the Egg and I'm really happy that people are coming out with modalities that are going to be noninvasive to help people to heal." And I support them all. But I can't claim to know everything about every modality. 

But I tell them, look at who the inventor is. Check the integrity of the company, check the integrity of the inventor, check to make sure that it's not something that was human created, a software program. There could be some error in there. If you have to be in the energy field of the practitioner during the session and maybe they picked up parasites, maybe it was the practitioner that had the parasite. So don't be poisoning your body on a parasite cleanse when maybe the parasites that were picked up on that machine were actually the practitioner who was within your six feet of your energy field.

So I've seen-- and old people do these testing and they have their cell phone right there their energy field. And I just don't think that that is the right environment to get the most accurate results. So I wanted to create a consistent and repeatable device because you definitely don't want me as a Scorpio put my energy on you on some days. Not always the most neutral person in the world.

And so some of these healers, they're healing people as they're grieving a divorce or they're grieving a miscarriage or they're angry for their financial situation. And that energy is going right into you. And I just want people to be more discerning. I have one client that she's always asked, "Can you come and check out my device? See if it's good." And she said sometimes she'll walk into the room and say, "Turn that thing off. I don't even want to be around it."

But yet there's got droves of people going in, exposing themselves to these technologies and these modalities. I just want people to be discerning. I want them to be careful about what they're using and just feel that little still gut feeling. You walk in somewhere and your gut says, "Oh, I don't think that energy is for me." Like I said, there is no one size fits all. It might be the perfect thing for someone like the Beamer mat. The Beamer mat I think is great for healing a lot of injuries, sports injuries. But I've had two clients with Parkinson's and Groves disease that both got worse because the circulation of energy, it exasperated their conditions.

Luke Storey: [01:45:53] Oh, interesting.

Gail Lynn: [01:45:54] You got to be really careful. Nothing is good or bad. It's based on the person, what they need.

Luke Storey: [01:46:00] Yeah. The intentionality and discernment around anything, because a lot of this stuff, too, I mean, PMF, for example, like the Beamer, it's powerful stuff. If you put a tri field meter over a PMF mat, it's a massive magnetic field. A lot of this stuff is invisible or it's in the quantum realm. Because you can't feel it with your ordinary senses, we just think, "Oh, what's that going to do?"

But I've learned that stacking a bunch of things at once sometimes and it's like kind of has a deleterious effect when each one of those things independently, like PMF, the light machines, this and that. And I just test everything out that way because I'm a guinea pig and I want to be able to report back what worked and what didn't. But it's also much harder to get the discernible effect,  to identify the specific effect of something when you're stacking too many things, like you mentioned getting a massage, doing Reiki and then you go on the Egg and you're like, "I didn't feel anything or I felt too much or whatever it was." And then you pointing fingers, trying to identify what it was that caused that reaction. But you don't really know because you're doing too many things. So I think that's really good advice.

Gail Lynn: [01:47:12] There was a company in Boulder and the lady said, "I healed from malaria" and it was one of these 21 modalities. And literally she had like Circuit Energy Center, circuit training. You go from one machine to the next. So you would go in there and she'd put you on the 21 machines in a circular pattern, you go here and then you go here and you go here. And I was like. "No, thank you." But you said this was how I healed from malaria. Like you said, she doesn't know which one. Maybe only one of them did the healing because she was doing all 21 of them.

Luke Storey: [01:47:48] Noted. Well, I appreciate that you're a purist. I appreciate you coming out here to speak with me today. And thank you for bringing something really creative and unique to the world. It's very cool and it's something that's increasingly accessible to people, too. And I always get kind of bummed when I share something that's interesting and useful with people and they're like, "Well, I can't afford to go buy one." So I like when people can actually find-- you can use your website, the locator I went on there today to just see what was happening in the world. And I mean, they're all over the place now and it seems like they're continuing to grow. So I highly encourage anyone listening, take an isolated day where you're not doing anything else energetically and go do a harmonic Egg session. It's generally a $90 to $100 or something?

Gail Lynn: [01:48:31] It depends on the demographics. Some of them are a little bit cheaper if you buy a membership. I've seen $85 to $200, depending on what the demographic is.

Luke Storey: [01:48:40] And in my experience, as I said, is deeply relaxing, probably more so in some cases than I would from a massage that cost under $80 of tip. You know what I mean? So it's like it's not affordable for everyone. But I think you eat out once less this month and you try an Egg or something like it. I'm just a huge fan. In fact, some listeners will know I recently did. 

I think I might have sent you a podcast because I did, how to build a wellness center, basically, a two part podcast, and it was supposed to be one. And there's so many cool things like the Harmonic Egg and other technologies ended up being two podcasts. But my point with that was just, "Hey, there's a great business opportunity." With the Egg and some of these other things. If you can get a little seed cash and get a space, even if it's at your house at first, get waivers and all the things, especially if it's in your house, get some insurance if somebody falls down the stairs or something.

But there's a business opportunity, but there's also an opportunity for all of us to start to experience some of these things that are just out of reach financially for your average person. And I think that as more people become aware of technologies like the Harmonic Egg, that the demand will increase so much that these crazy garage inventors of all these different technologies will be able to actually scale and make them ultimately more affordable, where you have like, oh, everyone has an Egg in their house. That's the world I'm envisioning. So this isn't some kind of elitist. Well, it's nice if you can afford health kind of thing.

Gail Lynn: [01:50:08] Well, and I didn't want to have it just for the masses. I wanted it for the classes because I feel like it was a download from God, from Creator, that it wasn't just for the rich people. So I encourage the center owners to keep it affordable, support their community. So I created a business model of cooperation and not competition. And I'm trying to be a pioneer in this divine feminine business model. And it's hard. It's hard. But I don't want to be the top heavy, rich person. I want to spread that abundance out for everybody. So I do these things to make the Egg a household name, so all my center owners are abundant.

Luke Storey: [01:50:51] That's awesome.

Gail Lynn: [01:50:52] And it's this cooperative business model. And the more that are out there, the better we all do. And just this other mentality that we need to shift and I hope we shift. I think the business model of the future should be of cooperation where we're all supporting each other to be abundant.

Luke Storey: [01:51:07] Totally. And the preventative nature of these technologies too, sometimes I think about, "Oh my God, I've spent so much money on all this stuff over the years because it's really the only thing I do with my money. I bought a house finally at 51, but probably I would have bought a house earlier if I wasn't buying $5,000 light panels and all this shit. Not shit. It's great stuff. 

But then I think about, well, what if I would have ended up on dialysis or needing surgery or expensive prescription medication, insulin, whatever. So I always kind of think about this type of spending, and I'm actually just investing not only my quality of life or right now, but I'm probably going to spend way less money later on and still have the vitality to work hopefully as long as I feel like working to earn a living as well. So it's that forward thinking. 

But when that system is created with the cooperation that you speak of rather than the competition, which I see not in your energy medicine realm, but sauna people can be very competitive, the PEMF people. There's all these kind of genres in the biohacking and tech health space where, I don't know, just mattress companies are like that. It's very they're just sharks. I'm like, you guys, there's-- what-- is there 8 billion people on the planet that want to be happy and healthy? There's literally plenty of customers to go around for everyone.

Gail Lynn: [01:52:34] What did Zach say? The inventor syndrome? He was saying the other day on your podcast?

Luke Storey: [01:52:37] I don't remember. 

Gail Lynn: [01:52:37] Where inventors are like, "It's mine, it's mine, it's mine. I can't share anything." I share everything. I will tell you exactly how I made the Egg, exactly how the music works. Even in my book, I write about all the stuff about the colors and what instruments do what because I feel like the more information and energy you share, the more you get. It's like if you see a river with a dam, those are the people who are holding all that and the information and it's just damming up. I don't have a dam in mind. It's like, let's go share it all, share it all. 

And so I just had a friend of mine pass away, he had the most brilliant, mild silver protein. He passed away. His legacy is completely gone. He didn't share anything. And his product helped tens of thousands of people. And it's just gone. Everything is gone. He didn't share it with anybody because he thought the more information I have, the more valuable I am. And he didn't leave a legacy.

Luke Storey: [01:53:42] Damn. Well, that's a great lesson for us to end on. Thank you so much for sitting down with me today. I've got one closing question for you, and it is this Gail Lynn, who have been three teachers or teachings in your life that you'd like to share with us?

Gail Lynn: [01:53:59] Let's go with Roger Anthony. He created the business called Crocodiles not Waterlilies. And he taught me in a seminar one time that-- I was kind of a little bit antsy and anxious, and he passed me a note and it said, L-I-F-E, Let It Flow Effortlessly. Changed my life. That's one. And I know we're just going quick. I could tell you another hundred stories about him. 

Dalai Lama, how he said, we spend all of our life working to make money and then we spend the rest of our life spending all our money to get our health back because we worked and compromised our health by making all that money. And then the third one is Wayne Dyer. Got to bring him into this. When you change the way you see things, the things you see will change. Create your own reality.

Luke Storey: [01:54:58] I love it. Wayne Dyer was one of the first teachers I ever got into when I used to listen to his tapes over. Remember those big cassette boxes you'd get at seminars? Back when I had a cassette player in the car in the '90s when I was listening. we had CDs by then, but I had a lot of them were only on cassette, but I used to listen to him for hours and hours and hours. I interviewed his daughter, Arena I think it was, yeah, about a year ago or so. She was really lovely too. She had some great stories about her dad and it was very meaningful because the impact he had on my life, too.

Gail Lynn: [01:55:29] I got to meet him and my dad saw the picture and he was squeezing me so tight. And my dad's like, "Who is that guy? Why is he hugging you like that?" It's Wayne Dyer.

Luke Storey: [01:55:40] He's Wayne Dyer. He's cool. [Inaudible 01:55:42]. All right. Thanks so much for joining me today. I appreciate it. And keep up the good work.

Gail Lynn: [01:55:47] Thanks.

Luke Storey: [01:55:51] Okay. That's what's up, my friends. We just brought it home with Episode 445. I'll be back next Tuesday with a real smasher. No joke. Episode 446 will feature the holistic psychologist on outgrowing toxic relationships and people pleasing with one of my favorites, Dr. Nicole LaPera. I had an incredibly expensive conversation with Nicole, and my sense is that it's going to really hit home for many of you as well. 

Dr. Nicole is simply brilliant and just so skilled at the craft of helping people learn and grow. So please make sure to click, follow or subscribe on your podcast app so it doesn't slip your feed. And before we get out of here, I'm going to humbly request that if you're enjoying the episodes we send your way every week, if you could please take 5 minutes to leave a rating and review on iTunes it would mean so much to me. And this is quite easy to do nowadays if you're listening on the Apple Podcast app and you'd be surprised how much a small gesture like this helps the show and of course, yours truly. 

And here's the inside baseball, by the way, on why podcasters always beg and grovel for ratings and reviews. I'm sure you've noticed that if you listen to other podcasts. Well, in the podcast game, your success is based on your reach. And one of the ways you reach more people is by being highly rated and reviewed. So that's why I'm making this request of you if you'd be so kind. And if not, just keep listening and share the episode with friends. But it really does help if you take a moment to share your thoughts and feelings on what we do here. 

And speaking of what we do together, we just hit 10 million downloads last month, which was an incredible birthday present. So thank you for helping me hit that benchmark and thanks in advance for helping me hit the next one by leaving a rating and review in iTunes. And before we dip out of here, don't forget to head up lukestorey.com/harmonicegg to find an Egg facility near you or to even explore getting one for yourself, if that's how you roll. All right, adios amigos. I'll be back inside your mind on Tuesday with Dr. Nicole LaPera, the holistic psychologist.

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