[00:00:00]Luke Storey:  I'm Luke Storey. For the past 22 years, I've been relentlessly committed to my deepest passion, designing the ultimate lifestyle based on the most powerful principles of spirituality, health, psychology. The Life Stylist podcast is a show dedicated to sharing my discoveries and the experts behind them with you. Welcome back to the show, Clayten and Jeffrey. 

[00:00:28]Clayten Stedmann:  Good to see you, Luke.

[00:00:29]Jeffrey Stegman:  Yeah, happy to be here.

[00:00:30]Luke Storey:  Yeah, it's great to see you guys again. We always have a really great kind of meeting before the meeting. We just set our intentions and did a nice little prayer before the podcast. And I really appreciate that you guys are into that sort of thing, because I always want to do that with guests, to just kind of really drop in and get centered. And it's not always appropriate if I don't know someone that well or if they're just not acclimated to that sort of behavior.

[00:00:56] So, I'm glad you guys were, I'm feeling really good. Before we get started, I want to do one thing here, and I don't know if this will work. And this is only going to be relevant to people that are watching the video, but I wanted to go in and actually activate my FLFE service right now, which is something that I do. And of course, you guys will explain what it is that I'm doing, but this is something that I do before either a meditation, or more specifically, I'll do it right before a podcast.

[00:01:31] Invariably, I'm going to hide my address there. I realize my address is just up. I don't know who might want to chase me down, but what I'm going to do is go in and activate a boost. And now, this particular apartment where we're living has been activated to the consciousness level of 600. And so, we're going to find out what that is in a few moments.

[00:01:53] But it's fun to be on with you guys, because I always do that, and people are like, what are you doing? I go, just hang on a minute, I forgot to do something, and set the stage of the energetics for the interview. So, we've got that. You guys are, of course, on as a team on Episode 316. And then, Clayten came on in Episode 315, wherein we dove deeply into the work of Dr. David R. Hawkins. I can see you've got a plethora of his books behind you there, Clayten, as any good Hawkins devotee and student would.

[00:02:22] So, I want to encourage people to go back and listen to those for a little more of the foundation, wherein today, we're just going to kind of get up to speed with you guys and give a brief overview of what FLFE is, how it came to be, and then get right into some of the new developments and some of the research you guys are doing that I'm really excited about. So, perhaps, just for starters, Clayten, you might just kind of tell us briefly who David Hawkins was, what the map of consciousness is, and how that pertains to what you're doing with FLFE.

[00:02:55]Clayten Stedmann:  David Hawkins was a psychologist for over 50 years, had the largest practice apparently in the United States, out of New York City, at one point, had 50 people in an office. I think there was a wing of a hospital built specifically to accommodate the people from his practice. He was born at a very high level of consciousness, extremely high, and had a realization that kinesiology was a nonlocal phenomena.

[00:03:33] The first to really address that in writing in a substantial way. Other people may have discovered it, but they didn't publish on it. So, a nonlocal phenomenon is a phenomenon where if I was testing some supplements for myself here, Luke, in Nelson, British Columbia, Canada, if I'm using kinesiology properly, I can test the level of appropriateness of those supplements for you in Austin.

[00:04:00] That's a nonlocality aspect of kinesiology. So, that's what Dr. Hawkins was known to most of us for. And then, he developed a body of work around that. His first book was called Power vs. Force, where he talked about in more detail the implications of kinesiology and related it to a map of consciousness, which is maybe what he's most well-known for. So, that map is a logarithmic scale from one to infinity.

[00:04:29] One to a thousand is the human domain. And then, up from there, you're going until the angelic realms, all the way to, I guess, God, or Divinity would be infinity on that scale. Yes, that's kind of a Coles Notes version of that. And then, we used the Hawkins' map of consciousness a lot in our research. We use kinesiology extensively. I think between the team, Jeff, we're probably over 40,000 calibrations a month as a team, so we use it a lot.

[00:05:01] Measuring the truth is, I think, the only way we've been able to develop the technology in the way that it has been developed, just because it's difficult to discern sometimes between a belief system and a truth. So, we use it extensively and we're fans of David Hawkins and devotees, many people are following him as their spiritual, probably, teacher. In fact, we have a discussion group in the office now, and Dr. David Hawkins' discussion group is kind of merged into a Monday evening thing. So, we're fans of David Hawkins.

[00:05:40]Luke Storey:  Oh, that's cool, man. Good for you guys. What a great place to work. I remember when I discovered his work and went out to see him a couple of times when he was alive speaking in Sedona. I came back and I found a study group in LA, and we would just basically watch his videos, and just—I mean, you really get entranced once you get familiar with his sort of framework, right? It's just so captivating, and it's such a vast body of work, and so far-reaching. 

[00:06:05] And we'd watch the videos, and then basically have a discussion around them. It was really cool and I think it kind of fizzled out, but it was neat to be in a group of people that understood that framework so that you could kind of riff on it. And one thing I did not walk away with, as I know I've talked to you about, Clayten, is I never did nail the ability to do muscle testing accurately.

[00:06:27] And it's kind of one of my lifelong dreams. It's on top of my goal list, but it seems like kind of a daunting thing. So, hence, as you know, I email you every once in a while like, hey, is this thing legit? Like a brand I want to work with or something like that. And you've really been very helpful, so thank you for that. There was one case, I remember, I sent you something. It was an EMF device or something.

[00:06:48] And I said, hey, is this thing legit? And you came back, and I don't think it was fake, but you said it calibrates at 201 or something, which on the scale would mean just kind of negligible benefit. So, I yanked it from the site and it's been really helpful in that way. I'd like to ask you, Jeffrey, how did you come into contact with the work of David Hawkins? And then, how did you guys meet to join forces?

[00:07:15]Jeffrey Stegman:  Well, I've been interested in the evolution of consciousness for some time before I became aware of Hawkins' work through spiral dynamics integral and Ken Wilber's work. But Clayten introduced me to Dr. Hawkins' work when we started working together. He was coaching me in consciousness and using the scale, the Hawkins map to measure consciousness in various areas.

[00:07:42] And I just saw the power of it and the just continual revelations from my own personal work, these low spots that I thought nobody else would know about, and there they are. They came to my attention and it was a great way to kind of leverage my way into personal growth, using the map and Clinton's ability to test accurately on it. And then, when we were together, there was a boy in my town who would approach me for certain kind of meditation or his parents had, the boy had cancer and he was in and out of a coma.

[00:08:26] He's a college boy, college man. And I went up to see Clayten and went to this area to visit his inventor because there was a chance of helping this boy with this technology. And that's when I was first introduced to what became FLFE. And walking into the inventors home was like, my hair is like standing up. I mean, the energy was so strong, and we went to lunch that day, and is like everybody in the restaurant was so beautiful, and I could just see their personal story, and why, what was beautiful about them. 

[00:09:07] And it was an enlightenment experience, just kind of going into that space, and then going out in the world. And so, I knew, wow, something's going on here. I mean, this is really amazing. So, Clayten and I started working with the technology and doing our own development on it. And the discovery was that we could activate a field of consciousness anywhere in the world, but there was this quantum association between the FLFE-based machine or system now, it's become really a system, as many components, you can associate that with anywhere in the world through this, now, the FLFE website. 

[00:09:48] So, like you showed us, you went on, you clicked the button, the 600 field boosts. Your property went from 570 or whatever you normally have it up to 600 just instantly. And that's all through using this FLFE system and instructions that are in these highly energetic space that's part of the system. When I went to the inventor's house, he goes like, put your hand in it, and you could really feel this energy. 

[00:10:20] It was collecting ambient energy through the stacks or input stacks into an output stack or one place. And that's where the quantum association occurs. And so, that became the FLFE technology. And at first, we were taking pieces of paper, and putting them on and off the stack, and then we were able to tie it into a database, and now, into the website, so we're able to instantly turn it on anywhere in the world. And what activates is a field of consciousness that's 560 on the Hawkins map, or higher 98% of the time for the home subscription, and that's substantially higher than in most environments, especially over the last year with what went on in the world.

[00:11:08]Luke Storey:  Yeah, to say the least. And again, for those listening, Episode 315 is where Clayten really breaks down the Hawkins scale. So, I encourage people to listen to that. But just for a frame of reference, so in that scale, in the human realm, as Clayten indicated, you have zero to 1,000, right? And the avatars like Jesus, Buddha, Krishna, et cetera, would be at 1,000, which is kind of the maximum potential energy or consciousness that a human form can hold.

[00:11:33] And there have been exceedingly few of those over history. And then, on the lowest end of the scale, maybe you'd have a virus or bacteria, like lower forms of life. And then, once you hit the level 200, that's the level of truth or integrity. And then, beyond 200 are varying levels of consciousness or energy. So, to give some relevance to this, if we walk into a Buddhist monastery in Tibet, or we go in a great cathedral in Europe, or even a meditation studio in Manhattan, or anywhere there where there is spiritual power and intention, that place, just like any book, song, teaching, et cetera, has a definable level of consciousness.

[00:12:19] And so, what you're doing with this technology is basically focusing, well, Focused Life Force Energy, you're focusing energy or consciousness onto a location, as we just did here with this apartment I'm in temporarily. So, the device then within it has, I'm assuming, some kind of software then that is able to focus that energy on this particular latitude and longitude that raises the consciousness within the space. Is that the basic understanding of it?

[00:12:53]Clayten Stedmann:  Yeah, it uses the principle of unique identifier. So, latitude, longitude is a unique identifier. In your case, it would be the legal address of the apartment and the street address, because there's only one of those in the world. For the FLFE everywhere service, it's typically around a cellphone, because there's only one cell number in the world in that cellular device. If it's an object, there's only one object. Even if it's a coin, that a lot of them are made, the individual scratches on the coin, if the picture's good enough, and we test it if we want, it will associate around that object. 

[00:13:35] So, there's a 300-foot bubble of positive energy with different layers of energy going out as you move through the world. One thing I would probably add is that it's very similar to human prayer. When you hold somebody in mind and you send up positive thoughts, you're thinking about that person, it's a unique identifier, and you're activating a field around them. We just are able to do that with technology, and humans do that all the time with our own beingness.

[00:14:10]Luke Storey:  Yeah, I guess it's that palpable sense of what we would call good or bad vibes. When you walk in a room, it's like you walk in a room, and two people just had a heated argument, right? You walk in there like, oh, feels weird in here. To be walking into a room where people just embraced, and had a loving hug and kiss, and said some prayers, you're going to have a different sort of energetic imprint on the space.

[00:14:35] And I know that over time, I've become much more sensitive to this. I used to be a much lower consciousness person in general many years ago, and I've been doing a lot of work to up-level that in the various ways that we talk about here on the show. But I think FLFE is almost too good and too far out to even believe. You know what I mean? It's just like I tell people about it, and I think I'm okay at explaining it now, because I'm just such an avid believer in it, and I've gotten to know you guys, and I just really trust your integrity around this.

[00:15:09] But I try to explain it to people, and if those people aren't very spiritually orientated and understand kind of the fundamental ideas of consciousness, and a vibration or an oscillation of a person or a place, it's hard for me to explain it to them. So, I'm wondering, over the years of you guys expanding this as a business and really serving humanity with it, has it been difficult to deal with skeptics that just don't believe in this sort of woo-woo energetic stuff or do you just not really care and just keep it moving, because you're not trying to become the next Google, or Chase Bank, or something?

[00:15:53] I sense you guys, you're not super salesy and pushy, but how do you find people's receptivity to this in general due to the nature that it's kind of a nonvisual service that you're offering? It's not like you order a machine, and you put it on your coffee table, and it raises the consciousness. This device lives somewhere, which no one really knows except you guys. How do you kind of handle the skepticism or doubt that people have about something that's so intangible?

[00:16:21]Jeffrey Stegman:  Yeah. The way we really started with that is by referral. I mean, it's almost all referral. So, the fact that you really enjoy the service, you really feel it, you really have come to understand it, and you're referring it to people now in your podcast. And five or six years ago, that wasn't so prevalent. There was people with groups or educational small groups of followers and that kind of thing.

[00:16:49] But the other is that we always had a free trial with no credit card, to no obligation of any kind, where it was just, don't believe us, just try it, and see how it is for you. And people would refer their friends, and say, look, just try it, what do you got to lose? And so, that free trial, I think, has been a big, big part of it. But the other is looking for forms of evidence. There are forms of evidence and ways of measuring that are emerging for these more subtle realm or consciousness for life-force-energy-type things. 

[00:17:27] And plants are one. Plants seem to really respond to this environment, so we've done plant studies and we have a big farm study that's 10,000-acre farm study that's launching this summer. So, that's one area where people can say, okay, that plant looks really healthy and vigorous, maybe it will work for me. TV cameras, another one that can measure the more subtle energies. So, we're working with a research team and we're looking for other ways to.

[00:18:04]Luke Storey:  That's so exciting. I mean, I'm a woo-woo guy and I believe prayer works, right? So, I don't need someone to prove that God exists, or that if you relate yourself to God, your life gets better and you're able to find solutions to your problems that you wouldn't have found. So, it's easy for me. But still, I also am kind of a science geek, so I love when there is nonanecdotal clinical "proof" of something.

[00:18:32] I think the plant studies are really interesting, and I want to get into some of that stuff with you guys in a little bit. There's a couple of things I want to cover beforehand. But the effect that a different technology like this has on plants, and also, on the behavior or health of animals is really intriguing to me, because obviously, it negates placebo with the exception of just quantum entanglement, where I have a plant on the table and I think that plant is going to grow faster than plant B, therefore it does, because of the intentionality that I'm bringing into the equation.

[00:19:04] So, it's not totally placebo-free, but it's about as close as you can get, right? Being that in the quantum realm, when you observe something by the very nature that it's being observed, it changes its behavior or its nature, right? So, I can't wait for the farm study. That is really interesting. What I want to ask you guys, though, specifically, because I know so many people in my audience are concerned about EMF, and that's how I initially discovered you guys, was just combing through the internet, trying to find things that would help with EMF, because it's just so pervasive, unless you want to go live in the middle of nowhere in a Faraday cage, it's just here, right?

[00:19:43] And I'm always kind of sharing my message, which is about building awareness, and educating yourself, and doing whatever you can to mitigate, but then you kind of got to live your life, and if your nervous system is constantly agitated by the fear of EMF and the anxiety around it all, it's probably double-jeopardy and you're being harmed doubly, just because you're so overly concerned about it rather than just living your life.

[00:20:09] But I think that out of all the EMF stuff out there, FLFE is probably the thing that I've recommended the most secondary only to doing what I just did in my new home, and just have the entire, every bedroom, just totally shielded with paint, and the grounding tape, and the whole thing, which was very effective, but it's also, as I learned, quite costly.

[00:20:31] And so, going into the EMF part of this, perhaps, you guys could explain first how you discovered that this was even applicable to EMFs and kind of how it works with the resonance of shungite and all the different things that you guys talk about on your website, because I think that's really, probably the thing that's a hook for many people, more so than, oh, I want to raise the consciousness in my room so my meditations are deeper. People want an effective and inexpensive way to help harmonize their environment from the negative impacts of EMF.

[00:21:06]Clayten Stedmann:  We were talking about this just before we—in our kind of pre-interview conversation, Luke, and Jeff and I, we tried to reframe our relationship with EMFs. And so, there's a term we're using recently or a concept of thinking as EMFs as a stimulus for evolution, instead of something that's out to harm us. So, the right amount of a stimulus can help us evolve, like the right amount of exercise helps increase bone density, and muscle mass, and all kinds of things in the body.

[00:21:42] We talk about that for hours. So, first of all, it's to take an attitude that the right amount of electromagnetic frequencies is like any other influence in your environment, and humans are extraordinarily adaptable. There's one thing we're really good at as humans is we adapt and we keep going. And so, that's been a recent kind of awareness for us, is to think about it that way. So, that helps just with the fear.

[00:22:10] And so then, we look at, well, what's the most appropriate amount of EMFs to stimulate evolution and not harm us? And that's an ongoing conversation. I don't know that we have the answer to that, but taking that attitude or position is a place to start, where you're not in fear. We discovered the influence of EMFs in terms of consciousness, lowering your consciousness-raising when we were testing the properties. 

[00:22:43] So, we test all the FLFE properties every week to ensure they're at the level we guarantee. And so, we have a consciousness lever in the control panel that you used, Luke, and so you can turn the consciousness up and down, and we guarantee that the property will be at the level set on your slide, or 98% of the time, or more over the previous 24-hour period. So, if it's that 460, or 560, or 570, then we guarantee that.

[00:23:15] So, what was happening is that we were finding a couple of properties that were at that level when we were doing our Saturday testing. And so, we found it with properties they were, and we contacted the customer, and said, we noticed your property is at 540 instead of 560. Is there anything going on? And we started hearing from customers, yeah, they just put a cell phone tower across the street, or, well, there was some construction going on in the neighborhood, and they were updating the smart meters in all the homes.

[00:23:48] And since the smart meters come in, we haven't quite felt the same. So, we started noticing that these large electromagnetic emitters that we consider consciousness-lowering, and that's really the way we measure the EMF, is other consciousness, neutral consciousness-lowering or consciousness-raising. Consciousness raising-EMF would be the purr of your cat or wagging of the dog's tail, right? 

[00:24:14] And so, we started doing research on EMFs and we found out that there is a substance called shungite. And when you're looking at EMFs, you can try to deflect them and bounce them somewhere else, but then you've got to worry about where they're going. You try to block them, which is difficult to do, unless you deflect them. You can try to just ground them into the Earth or do something like that. You can try to dissipate them instead of just blocking it and try to filter it, or in an ideal world, you want to harmonize them.

[00:24:48] You want to make that—you see, aikido principle of taking that energy that's coming toward you, that's consciousness-lowering, and make it consciousness-raising. And the only substance that we found to do that was shungite. So, we found a way to put the energetic signature of shungite into the FLFE environment around every consciousness-lowering EMF-emitting device, so your refrigerator, obviously, your cell phones, any light bulbs in the house, any electronic device that's emitting a consciousness-lowering EMF signal. 

[00:25:30] The first thing we do is we raise its level of consciousness. We found that if you raise the level of conscious of the emitter, it actually starts emitting a positive energy. So, we raised that level. And then, for anything that is coming into the environment, we have to shungite harmonize that, which makes it positive. And with routers, it's difficult to, because they're quite powerful, and with smart meters, it's difficult to raise them high enough to get them to emit positive, so we have to use shungite in that case.

[00:25:59] And in fact, the average property went up four points after we added that service. So, not only did it take care of the problem, it raised the level of consciousness of all the properties on average, four points, and some of them as much as 15, 20 points or higher. So, that's a bit of a story. I don't know if I forgot anything in that, Jeff, but that sounds complete.

[00:26:21]Jeffrey Stegman:  I mean, where we're coming from is that the consciousness of the area is an indicator of health, of health is an environment for human plant, animal, whoever is in the environment. So, if something is causing that to drop, there's less life force energy, there's less support that we see it as being negative. And that's kind of how we saw the effect of the EMFs without using some other kind of meter or something else. 

[00:26:55] Because since we measure consciousness and we do it on a large scale, that's really where we came from. And so, what we saw is that with the powerful router, in this shungite-infused service, that we saw the level of conscious going up. And it took beta testing with the EMF sensitives as well. Okay. Alright. So, the level of consciousness is going up, is that really mitigating the EMF effect on the person. 

[00:27:30] So, really had to do the beta testing, we had self-described EMF sensitives that were already subscribers, that when they heard us talking about this, I want to be part of this. And so, we did a survey with them and we saw a big change in their experience, better sleep, less anxiety. And as you saw with the control panel, you can play with the service, right? You can turn it up, turn it down, and you can turn on and off the EMF mitigation part of it.

[00:28:03] And that was a big piece of this so that people could experiment. And for me, when I turn that off for my service, I just feel my shoulders can come up, I feel tense. It's hard to get a breath. There's like a tension in my body from that kind of spikiness of all those EMF sources. And then, when I turn EMF mitigation back on, and it's included in all of the FLFE services, it's just part of the service, I can just relax and I feel like, take a deep breath, I come out in the woods.

[00:28:40]Luke Storey:  Yeah. Thank you for that, both of you. This is the really interesting part, because I'm so innately sensitive to EMF and I'm just frankly paranoid about it, because as I've explained to you guys, and ad nauseum on the show, I had a really negative experience, where I was essentially radiation poisoned from living under these cell towers. And so, it's like even though I love this service, and how I feel with it, and I know that I can trust you guys implicitly, I still do all the things.

[00:29:12] That's what's so funny here. And you guys talk, I'm like, did I just waste thousands of dollars like shielding my bedroom when I would have already had FLFE on the house anyway? Even if it didn't do anything to EMF, I just like the way it feels in the environment. But I mean, based on your research with muscle testing and just testimonials from customers and things like that, I mean, do you think that if somebody was in a high-EMF environment that FLFE would be strong enough or would be enough, or if someone is sensitive, would it still behoove them to shield their bedroom and get the other—there are other harmonizing devices I have in the house, like the Somavedic, the Blushield, Leela Quantum Tech, these other harmonizing devices, which I believe are valid, just like I believe what you're doing is valid, but I just go extra, and I go next level, and I just do every possible thing, hardwire the internet. 

[00:30:06] I'm just like, I don't want any of it in my house. Leaving aside the thing that you talked about earlier with that hormetic stress, where we do adapt, and I'm sure we do, but I just want to live in the equivalent of the forest 10,000 years ago. And so, I do all the things. But do you think that this would negate the expense and kind of the hassle of somebody doing other more extreme shielding and things like that? And what's your level of confidence with the EMF part of this service?

[00:30:37]Clayten Stedmann:  Maybe I'll start with that. So, we specialize in measuring consciousness and there are only certain devices that are subtle enough to measure subtle energy fields, if you will, or sensitive enough to measure subtle energy fields. And so, we did some research with a practitioner who worked with Dr. Joe Dispenza using a gas discharge visualization camera to notice the changes in subtle energy in the environments.

[00:31:07] And so, the gas discharge visualization study is on our website. And it showed that when the EMF mitigation is turned on in FLFE, the amount of chaos in the environment is reduced significantly. So, there's kind of a spikiness on the graph and it goes down to a very low level of oscillation. So, we have some science to back up the theory and to support the experience that EMF sensitives have. 

[00:31:40] If you turn on EMF mitigation in your environment and you have a smart—sorry, TriField meter. A lot of people use those around smart meters and different things. You will notice that it probably doesn't change. And we've had a local EMF consultant come in, and they had seven devices, and we turn the EMF mitigation on and off in the office, and it didn't register very much on those devices. So, I don't know how to answer your question, Jeff might want to sort of say more about it, but we certainly have experiments with clients and other things that verify a general increase in health and vitality, but I would go as far to say that nothing else is worth doing, because I don't know how to measure that.

[00:32:28]Luke Storey:  Yeah. Well, I mean, that's a sober approach and an honest answer. When people ask me, because I get DMs, I mean, literally every day, what do I do about EMF? And really, my first recommendation, I said, if you have the money, hire a building biologist, like that came to your office, have them like accurately test to see what you're dealing with, because sometimes, it's much worse than you think it is, and sometimes, it's not that bad. 

[00:32:52] I mean, you might live somewhere, and like the cell towers are far enough away, and you don't have a smart meter, et cetera, and then just at least for your bedroom, get your bedroom shielded, because at least while you're sleeping, you know that you're in as safe as possible environment for your nervous system. But my second recommendation is always like spend, what is it? Thirty-five bucks a month for that service. I haven't checked lately.

[00:33:14]Jeffrey Stegman:  Yeah.

[00:33:14]Luke Storey:  I'm like, spend the 3,500 bucks a—I mean, 35, not 3,500, $35 a month and just like harmonize the field where you are, because really, what we're concerned with is, as you said, our level of consciousness. I mean, that's the end goal anyway, is like I want to feel good mentally, emotionally, and physically. And that is all pertinent to the level of consciousness with which we carry ourselves and live our lives, right?

[00:33:40] We're energetic, electric, biological, chemical beings in a meat suit, and so I think from that perspective, my take would be do whatever uplifts you. And the more uplifted you are, the more resilient you're going to be to all external threats, whether it's toxins in your diet, or in your water, or energetic stuff like this. So, I'm kind of like, I said, just do everything, but if I could only do one thing that was not very much money, I would be spending the 35 bucks, because it's just like, that's the end goal anyway.

[00:34:15] Like everyone that buys supplements and all the biohacks, it's like, why are we really doing that? What's the why underneath that? And for me, I just want to be happy. I mean, that's it, right? So, if I can just go direct to the source and find something that helps me feel happier, then I'll just skip to the front of the line and just do that. Go ahead.

[00:34:36]Jeffrey Stegman:  Yeah. Could I pop in there real quick?

[00:34:38]Luke Storey:  Yeah.

[00:34:38]Jeffrey Stegman:  I mean, the free trial is a great way to see how it does affect you, to try it, and to do turn it on and off. But there's also, I believe, an effect of a high consciousness field in the energized nutrients that we're doing to help the body be more resilient and to recover from damage from EMFs. So, that's another piece of it that we're seeing. And we have a double-blind study coming on EMF sensitives and FLFE. So, once the results of that are out, we could probably answer this more definitively for you.

[00:35:16] I mean, it's my belief that we're harmonizing to the extent that it makes it much better environment for almost everyone. And there's very, very, very sensitive people that we have continued to refine the service to take care of those people as well. But I think part of it is building resilience in the body through the nutrition and just the high conscious field in the work body does to repair itself.

[00:35:45]Luke Storey:  When I was poking around on the site earlier before the interview, I noticed that you had a couple of things that were new. There was one related to a health program that you just alluded to, and then there was also a grounding element, as in like touching the Earth. Could you go into those a little bit?

[00:36:05]Clayten Stedmann:  Those are new-old things, the grounding—God, that's maybe years, Jeff? I think it's been years we've had grounding out. So, if you're going less than five miles an hour with the FLFE everywhere service, there's a grounding component where we found a way to enhance the connection between the positive magnetic forces of the Earth and the human body. So, when we look at where our energy comes from, we believe, according to our research, about 65% of our energy comes from the air, from the oxygen, of course, and all the elements, and yeah, there are many elements besides oxygen, hydrogen, helium, and all those things, but there's a prana, or life force, or chi in the air. 

[00:36:54] And in the eastern studies, they call that ether or aethor, A-E-T-H-O-R. So, about 65% comes from the air that we breathe, depending on the food you're reading, about 25% comes from the food, and about 15% comes from the magnetic forces of the Earth. That's our research. So, if you're wearing rubber-soled shoes, like most of us are, you're going to insulate yourself from connecting with the positive magnetic influences of the Earth.

[00:37:27] That's why we believe, and other people said this as well, that it's difficult for humans to go in space, because we've evolved with gravity and with the magnetic forces of the Earth. So, we're big proponents of grounding. Sometimes, I live in Canada, and going outside your bare feet in the winter is not always easy, but in certain times, you just scrape the snow off and go out there for a few minutes. Even in a pair of socks, wool socks, you're just going to get that connection to the Earth. So, that's where grounding came from. Yeah. 

[00:38:02]Luke Storey:  I love that. That's such a cool feature and I didn't even realize that was there until today. And I guess I've been doing it, because I have the service on my phone, of course, right? Because I want this field with me wherever I go. But going back to the plant studies, there was a film that came out a few years ago, I think it was called Earthing, and it was an exposé about grounding. And they did a really interesting experiment there where they ran a grounded wire into one plant, and then left one plant. I think it was some flowers in water or something like that, right?

[00:38:32] And the grounded flowers lasted exponentially longer than the ungrounded flowers. And I was like, wow, that's quite meaningful, to think about how we've become disconnected from that life-supporting field. So, that's very cool that you guys figured out a way to integrate that in there. What's the bit, guys, about up-leveling the bioavailability of nutrients and stuff? I saw that on the site, too, where we're going to get more benefit from foods, and supplements, and things like that when they are in that higher energetic field.

[00:39:06]Jeffrey Stegman:  So, energized food was an initial part of the service or a few years in where we discovered we could add additional life force energy to food. So, we're activating this field, there's additional life force energy there. We have these instructions, which we call programs, which are in our system, and we ask for food when it touches the person's saliva or enters the body, in the case of injection, to be energized so that it has a positive. It's like a plant. Like if you just eat spinach right off the plant, there's much more life force energy in it than there is something's been on the shelf for two weeks.

[00:39:54] So, that additional life force energy adds energy to your digestive track, which the digestion being one of the highest energy-using processes in the body. But as we went along, we realized we could energize also specific nutrients, because things like magnesium and zinc, and there are many other nutrients that are bound in ways in the food that it isn't as bioavailable. So, we're just adding additional life force energy to those nutrients and we're really just calling it out specifically in the program to energize with additional life force.

[00:40:38]Luke Storey:  And is that particular part of the service just within the home service, or is that a special addon that does that?

[00:40:47]Jeffrey Stegman:  It's in all of the services.

[00:40:50]Luke Storey:  Oh, cool. Neat.

[00:40:51]Jeffrey Stegman:  Even the smarter EMF, the low cost service as well.

[00:40:54]Luke Storey:  Oh, cool. Well, I guess I've been doing that and I didn't even know. What about this other, and I like getting in the more woo-woo stuff, because I don't know, I've explored consciousness a lot and I'm very convinced that what we see here in the material world is but a fraction of what actually exists, and that was the clearing negative history and disembodied beings on a property? Could you take us into a little bit of that?

[00:41:21]Clayten Stedmann:  When we first started the service, we were just adding positive energy to an environment and it would take like three days for the average environment to go to 540. And we were trying to find ways to optimize the experience. Our research indicated that, really, 560, 550, 560, 570 is the unconditional love zone on the Hawkins map of consciousness, and that that would be the optimal environment to fit in with the mission.

[00:41:54] So, the mission of FLFE is to optimize the conditions for the evolution of consciousness in an economized society. So, we have to go to work for a living, most people. So, that's the economized society part. And FLFE doesn't limit your environment, by the way, in any way. In fact, 5% of the properties are over 600 on the Hawkins map. So, just because people are doing their own work, that makes the consciousness of the environment go higher. 

[00:42:24] The average home in North America, to be pretty cold, it was about 420. So, we're going up 420 to the power of 140, because the Hawkins map is logarithmic. So, it's an extraordinary rise in consciousness. So, the metaphor we sort of came up with was that if you're going to paint your house, if you paint your home right now, Luke, what you want to do is you want to wash the walls first to get all the old dirt and all the old energy off.

[00:42:52] And then, when you're paint it, you get a much better experience. So, what we did was we made a list of all of the negative conditions that we could imagine and we could find through our research that could happen on a piece of land. And it was really some dark weeks of research, because you're looking at every negative thing that a human can do to a human, or a human can do to an animal, or an animal can do, just you can imagine, right?

[00:43:18] So, we made the request, as Jeff said, in the programs to remove that negative energy from the land. And so, what we found out was that we would be able to get the level of consciousness of the properties to 540 like in a couple hours, and then when we work more on the removal template, that's one of the things that was a couple of minutes, now, it's, sometimes, five seconds.

[00:43:46] So, it's really about requesting to divinity that all those negative conditions be removed. And the technology cycles through the environment 1,000 million times a second. So, even with that, it could take a few days for it to get optimal. It's just that it's got to clean out all those negative history. So, the memory is still there, but the trauma is gone, right? And some, it can take a few days.

[00:44:16]Luke Storey:  That's so interesting, because it reminds me of some of the shamanic traditions. My fiancee, Alyson, is a shaman and I've sat with quite a few of them. And the first thing you do in any kind of spiritual exploration, whether it be with plant medicines or not, is clearing the energy in the room, right? There's all of this burning of different herbs, and sage, and tobacco, and sacred feather fans, and this kind of things, where you're really clearing out the energy, and then, of course, clearing people's bodies directly with the flower water sprays and all the different things.

[00:44:55] And I think there's a reason that that's been done forever, right? It's not just like some bells and whistles, oh, that smells nice, oh, that's nice incense. I mean, we're really preparing in these ceremonies, and prayer circles, and things to raise the consciousness of the field and of ourselves. So, it's interesting. You guys are kind of adding that in. I didn't make the correlation until you framed it that way, that we're, first, wanting to, in some cases, clear that energy out so that we can create a new standard. I think that's really powerful, very cool.

[00:45:27]Jeffrey Stegman:  And there's various things that can happen on the land that can really have an effect on people living there. I mean, there's thought forms that could be there. There's curses. There's extreme situations like torture or real battles, where those thought forms, emotions, those feelings are there and they can really have an effect. I mean, previous suicides, murders, all those kind of things are intense.

[00:45:58] And they're held in the crystalline structure of not only the ground, but also like the drywall and the building materials, so we're not just clearing the Earth, we're clearing not only the buildings, but also the farm implements or whatever else is there that could hold energy. So, being in a place like in Japan, if you have a suicide in a building or in a particular apartment, it's very difficult to rent it.

[00:46:31] There's a network that follows. They post that and people know that's happened, they don't want to rent it, because they know that it's more likely there's going to be another suicide. So, this history is affecting us more than we know. It's there. And so, clearing that out, I think it's shamanic, and many traditions do that, because it really is important to clean it up.

[00:46:59]Luke Storey:  Yeah, I would challenge anyone listening to ask themselves, would they go live in a house where there was some sort of brutality, or torture, or suicide, or something? I know there's been a couple of occasions where I've been in a house, and someone said, yeah, the last owner killed themselves in here, and it's kind of like, whoa. It's literally that haunted house feeling, because you just feel the depth of that pain and suffering. 

[00:47:24] And I get a sense that it does really linger. So, that's very interesting. One of the things that I did after I activated my phone in my home service with FLFE is I also put the service on my business as a separate service. And I was a little curious to share with people what that's all about. One of those things, again, that's difficult to quantify, but I don't know my business through COVID and all of this stuff has been thriving.

[00:47:55] I'm having more fun doing it. I feel like I'm reaching and helping more people. Finances are good, bought a house. Everything's been going well. I can't directly attribute it to FLFE, but I just figured, I don't know, my house feels amazing and I'm less susceptible to the EMF in my environment, clearly. So, how does the business service work and what kind of testimonials have you received from people around that?

[00:48:20]Clayten Stedmann:  Well, what we've discovered is that when you incorporate a business, it creates an energetic identity. And if a business has struggled, if you've had times where you didn't know if you're going to have the business or business has done well, and you're frustrated, it sounds a bit out there, and we're pretty out there. But yeah, I mean, you can test the level of conscious of a business.

[00:48:50] And so, we figured this out and we found a way to remove the negative energetic history around the business. And so, the level of the businesses go up and most of the people that had put the service on their business, they noticed a real flurry of activity pretty quickly. It just depends on what kind of shape the business is in, but a lot more starts happening, and most of that is really positive.

[00:49:19] So, yeah, a lot of it is just neutral. There's just a lot more activity, because there's more positive energy and more things start to move. Some people have had some dramatic increases, where—so what happens with FLFE, we're in 50-something countries. We have tens of thousands of people have tried this service by now. And so, sometimes, FLFE comes along at a place, in a person's life, and they've been doing the work for years, they've written the business plan, they've got their financing, they've got their marketing plan, and we just happen to come along when things are really going well, and it just adds to it, and they start to do really well.

[00:49:55] And so, sometimes, we get credit for things that FLFE doesn't have much to do with. And sometimes, people turn the service on and they don't notice it very much, they may notice in their plants, or their pets, or someone else, or they have a bit of a healing crisis, and they think, well, it's too intense. And sometimes, that has nothing to do with the service, it just has something to do with what's going on in their life. So, we've had a lot of interesting experiments with especially small business people, because if you have hundreds of people, there are usually so many things going on, it gets hard to determine what the factor is, right? It's like, is this an accumulation of 10 years' worth of effort by 100 people or is this just FLFE? 

[00:50:41]Luke Storey:  Wow, that's cool. Well, I don't plan on turning mine off anytime soon. Hedge my bets. I mean, things are going well and I know, God bless, for a lot of people, they're not. So, yeah, I think that's interesting. But when you frame that, Clayten, another thing that came to mind was when you incorporate, you're essentially bringing something into a body. It's corporate entity now or it's its own living, breathing thing.

[00:51:07] And I think for me, even just making that distinction, that even though my business has the same name as I, it's really its own thing. Almost like in a relationship between two or more people, you have those individuals, and then you have the corporation of sorts between them, which is this third entity, the relationship itself, which has its own sort of energetic field and personality in a sense. 

[00:51:30] So, I think that's very, very interesting. I was actually telling Alyson about that, because she's incorporating at the moment, I was like, you've got to get FLFE on your business. We need it in all family businesses. I think what I'd like to do now, I mean, I always have a million questions. You guys know how I roll. But in the interest of time, I do have another interview coming up in an-hour-and-a-half. Jeffrey, if you could screen-share with us here.

[00:51:56] And for those on audio only, we'll do our best to kind of walk you through it. But I think some of the studies that you guys have done are really compelling and I'd like to just dive into those a little bit with some visuals, because for me, being a visual person, when I saw that stuff on your site today, I was like, oh, man, this is really cool. I want to be able to share that with people. So, let's see if the technology is on our side and we can share some of that, which is really compelling information.

[00:52:22]Jeffrey Stegman:  What we're starting with here, are you able to see that okay? 

[00:52:25]Luke Storey:  Yeah, perfect.

[00:52:27]Jeffrey Stegman:  Is one of the plant growth experiments that we've done and this was a preliminary experiment with spinach. And so, you could see on the righthand side, without FLFE, and the lefthand side, with. These were identical grow setups with lights in a dark room. And because there's water feeding it and spraying on there, there was no difference in the watering, there's no difference in the nutrients. This was just, over a period of time, what we saw the change in the plants.

[00:53:07] So, you can see, first of all, there was much more germination in the FLFE environment. So, there are more plants. And then, secondly, the leaves are bigger and there are more leaves in each plant. So, we did a number of leaves, both the kind of the full, and the long, and thin leaves, and spinach or two kinds of leaves, and then the average length of the leaves. So, that was just kind of a pure experiment, FLFE on or not.

[00:53:41]Luke Storey:  That's so cool. In this experiment, how close in proximity are these two hydroponic buckets, which is what we're looking at for the audio folks?

[00:53:50]Jeffrey Stegman:  Yeah, they were in the same room, but they were far at either end. It was maybe 50, 60 feet, 70 feet from each other. We set up the FLFE environment, so it was on part of the room and not on the other part of the room. So, yeah. 

[00:54:11]Luke Storey:  That's so fascinating. As I'm looking at this. I guess because it's hydroponic, it brings to mind cannabis. I'm like, I wonder how many cannabis growers are going to see this example here, and be like, I'm getting FLFE on my grow room, because I mean, it's pretty incredible. You've got like 50% germinated versus 25% in the other one. And then, I mean, just looking at the pictures, even without reading it, I mean, it's not like a little difference, it's a massive difference. 

[00:54:40]Jeffrey Stegman:  Yeah. It's like 29%, so it's almost 30% difference.

[00:54:40]Luke Storey:  It's so cool.

[00:54:40]Jeffrey Stegman:  Yeah.

[00:54:45]Clayten Stedmann:  And that's just over thirty days, Luke.

[00:54:50]Luke Storey:  Oh, wow.

[00:54:52]Jeffrey Stegman:  And they were delicious.

[00:54:54]Luke Storey:  I bet. I can't wait to see what you guys are doing with the full-on farm. That's so fascinating. Alright. What's the next one then, Jeffrey?

[00:55:01]Jeffrey Stegman:  Well, we have an experiment with Dr. Emoto's lab, let me get my cursor up there, and this was, Dr. Emoto passed away, and his son is running the lab, and they're continuing to do ice crystal experiments. And we had the FLFE everywhere service, which is in the middlem the FLFE property, which is on the right, and then a control. And our control ended up being kind of nicer looking than many municipal water controls that you see out there on their sites.

[00:55:39] When you do this work with them, you get a whole number of photographs in each category, and we pick the best control as well as the best with the other categories. So, there were many controls that looked like your kind of typical municipal water, very muddy and unformed. So, we believe there was some positive influence on the control as well. But you can see on the property, it's what they call beautiful hexagon.

[00:56:11] It's their top category of harmonization or beauty of energy that's causing these crystalline structures. And the FLFE everywhere is similar, a little distorted there. FLFE everywhere does not have EMF mitigation—I'm sorry, does not have clearing. It has EMF mitigation, it doesn't have clearing. So, there could have been some pre-existing negative history there. And then, down below are some other ones that they've done that are somewhat similar.

[00:56:51]Luke Storey:  I'm a huge fan of Dr. Emotos work. I got that book ages ago. I think it's called The Hidden Messages in Water. And just being a water fanatic, I love when people use this particular mode of testing, because again, it's visually compelling. It's right in front of you. And that's just so interesting. And with the control, I wish I could see some of the uglier control waters, because usually, when they photograph the tap water from most places, I mean, it doesn't even look like a crystal. 

[00:57:26] It's just flat and brown. And what we're looking at here, even in the control, is a nice little snowflake. But yeah, the third one, we're looking at the FLFE property, for those looking, I mean, it looks like a beautiful snowflake. There's symmetry. And also, just the size in comparison to the control is incredible. Where did the control and the other waters in the everywhere and the property test, where did that water originate from?

[00:57:55]Jeffrey Stegman:  Well, they all came out of the same spigot. And it was a non-FLFE property. And so, it was a bit tricky. What we had to do was label the glass bottles, and then use the photograph of each bottle to do a special program for each one. And the control program was to prevent the FLFE environment from coming into the bottle. And then, the others in the property one, basically, the boundaries of the bottle were the boundaries of the property. And with everywhere, we actually put some minerals in there and we used the ionic minerals as the FLFE everywhere. But the bottle had to be the boundary, we didn't go beyond, because you don't want to affect all of the other samples.

[00:58:53]Luke Storey:  Right. So, did you guys send the water to the lab in Japan?

[00:58:57]Jeffrey Stegman:  Yeah. 

[00:58:57]Luke Storey:  Okay. Oh, so you bottled it, you did the imprint on it, and then send it to them ,and then they essentially flash-freezed it and photographed it, and that's where you're getting this crystal.

[00:59:08]Jeffrey Stegman:  And if you think about it, I mean, if we didn't have EMF mitigation on the bottles, which is part of the service, I mean, the bottles going in an airplane, airplanes are very high-EMF environments, then it's going to do a lab, it's getting delivered through Japan, through the Japan mail system. And so, you can just imagine how all those influences, part of this was having the FLFE environment be there, including all the protection or the EMF mitigation comes with it?

[00:59:41]Luke Storey:  So cool. So cool. Thanks for sharing that. Like I want more of this. This stuff is so fascinating. Alright. What's next in your slides?

[00:59:48]Jeffrey Stegman:  Well, we have some of the consciousness studies we've done, the history, do you want to take a look at this?

[00:59:55]Luke Storey:  Yeah. Let's do-

[00:59:56]Jeffrey Stegman:  You want to talk about this one, Clayten?

[00:59:57]Clayten Stedmann:  Yeah, sure. We thought it would be interesting, Luke, to go back in time. I think we did a thousand years before the birth of Christ and look at the consciousness of the planet, especially when we look at the next slide, where it talks about the level of consciousness, the planet that we went to during COVID and where we're coming back. So, basically, before the birth of Christ, the Earth was about in the high 90s, 90, it's going up to 98. I think it was 98 when Jesus was born, something like that.

[01:00:28] And then, if you go over to the right, you can see where we peaked at 190 for several hundred years. And then, only around 1986 that we make that jump for the first time in the history of the planet, over 200, and then we went up to 242 as the highest we had gone for a single month, pre-COVID. So, we just wanted to give an example of how far we've come as a planet and how far the consciousness of humanity has evolved. It's pretty easy to listen to mainstream media and think that things are horrible on the planet and it's all coming apart.

[01:01:11]Jeffrey Stegman:  This is the next slide.

[01:01:15]Luke Storey:  Yeah. I want to just touch on something in here really quick for those that are listening and not watching. So, we're looking at a graph going back a thousand years before the birth of Christ. And then, as he said, we're under 100. We go up to 150, and then 1986, '87, we cross over 200. It's really significant that when we crossed over 200 that that's the level of integrity. Just to put it in simplistic and dualistic terms, under 200, bad, over 200, good, right? A thousand being as good as it gets in the human realm. So, that's a critical jump in the evolution of humanity's level of consciousness and also just to state that this is the average level of all people on the entire planet throughout this epoch of time. 

[01:02:07] So, you can have simultaneously, Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, Mao on the planet, but you have enough monks meditating or whatever it is that's counterbalancing that, and this goes into Hawkins' work, which is so fascinating from this perspective, because it doesn't take that many of us raising our consciousness to counterbalance vast numbers of people who are still living in their animal nature, essentially. So, I think this is a really interesting slide from that perspective. So, go ahead and take us into the more current timeline of the world level of consciousness.

[01:02:42]Clayten Stedmann:  Talk about this one.

[01:02:42]Jeffrey Stegman:  So, this slide-

[01:02:43]Clayten Stedmann:  Yeah, go ahead, Jeff. 

[01:02:45]Jeffrey Stegman:  It takes us from November in 2019 where the world was—this is the US and the world. So, the US was in the 425 kind of range, 425, 430, and the world was in the 240s. I don't know if you've had the exact number, what was the peak there, Clayten? 

[01:03:08]Clayten Stedmann:  242 was about the highest for a month, I think.

[01:03:11]Jeffrey Stegman:  242. And so, you can see we're moving along, and as we get into February, things are starting to drop. And March is this, the media coverage of what was happening was circulating and people were wondering how it's going to affect them. And then, it starts to really bottom out in April. And that's a weird fear level in both the world and the US. So, it is a felt sense at the time. 

[01:03:46] Of course, the media was just full of it and people were having fearful conversations with each other and with their loved ones. And so, there was a felt sense of that, in our bodies walking around outside. And man, it was tough leaving my FLFE environment during that time, to go out to the grocery store and people are fearful. And so, it was quite a contrast in environment consciousness during that time. And then, you could see the climb back up.

[01:04:22]Luke Storey:  What's interesting, we started climbing back up, I guess, in March 2020, the level of consciousness for the world at large and also for the US. And then, there's a steady incline where we start to hit over 200, that level of integrity again, and then January 6th, 7th and 8th, January 2021, whoop, there's a big dip there again. It's really interesting.

[01:04:49] But this gives me a lot of hope, because as of 5/24/2021, the world, which includes, obviously, everywhere except the United States, has now again climbed back up over 200, that critical level of consciousness that is indicative of some semblance of sanity. And then, the US going up to 350, 360, whatever it is, as of that date. So, that gives me a lot of hope. I also find it really interesting, looking at this expanse of time, that in general, the level of consciousness of the US versus the rest of the world, I guess all of those other countries combined, is generally higher.

[01:05:37] And I think that that's encouraging, not because I'm an American. I mean, I'm a human being of humanity. I don't identify like where I'm from as who I am, but it's kind of encouraging for people that are really down on America. I mean, even a lot of Americans talk a lot of trash about this country and I know it has its faults, but I'm a bit of a patriotic person, because I think that despite all of its faults, America has done a lot of good for the world, despite some of the obvious shortcomings. But it's interesting to see just the American people, right?

[01:06:12] We're not talking about the colonialist, new world order imperialists, evil beings that seem to run this country and much of the world, but this is the populace, right? These are the everyday people. This is an average of all of the human beings from all races, creeds, colors, religious denomination, sexual preferences, all the things that we define ourselves by, that we're doing pretty good in the great scheme of things. So, that's actually nice to see in a quantifiable way, because I think that it's no accident that many people around the world are still trying to get here as much as many people living here think this place sucks so bad. So, that's just my take on that.

[01:06:57] Go, America. Let's keep raising the consciousness, and keep that unconditional love flying in the face of fear and so much of just really the disinformation that we're being fed so much in the media that would lead us to believe that the world in general is the worst place ever, but especially this country. So, go humanity on bringing that level up a bit. And I'm hoping through work like you guys are doing, and hopefully that I'm doing, we can continue to see that trend, because that's really the only way up and out, is the up-leveling of our consciousness. Is there another slide after that or is that the last one?

[01:07:37]Jeffrey Stegman:  No, that's what we've got right now.

[01:07:38]Luke Storey:  Okay. Do either of you guys have anything to add on this, Clayten or Jeffrey, on this last slide?

[01:07:43]Jeffrey Stegman:  Well, we are looking at doing this chart for a number of countries, and that that will be on the website eventually. So, to look at least the top 10, where we have a lot of subscribers, because when you're in the rule of law, and you have a court system that works reasonably well, and there are civil rights, those many countries get into this kind of range of the US. 

[01:08:14] So, we're doing well. And with a country that has those kind of basic things, but it just tells you how much of the world doesn't, many people are in that survival mode and they're barely making it or there's violence and danger, and those kind of things that creates this difference between where like the US is and where the world is. But it is great to be over 200 again, yeah.

[01:08:47]Luke Storey:  Yeah, it is. Yeah. And that's a really great distinction. I'm glad you added that in, because when we're looking at these blue lines versus the yellow lines, for those, that's the world average, right? So you could have a place that's very low in consciousness, maybe a country in North Africa or the Middle East, where there's war, and famine, and people are really having a very hard time, the calibration of consciousness there is going to be much lower.

[01:09:12] And then, the average, you say, wherever, Italy, Japan, any other country that's higher and something comparable to the US, that would be bringing that blue level up, because some of them will be significantly lower. But again, the average of all of them. So , that's encouraging that the US isn't like the only one toeing the line. Yes, there are other places on Earth where there's a relative amount of peace and solidarity within the populace that's going to keep that level in balance. So, that's a really key distinction there.

[01:09:42]Clayten Stedmann:  I've traveled a fair bit in Canada and somewhat in the US, and I had an attitude about North America. I really wondered if we were treating each other well enough, and maybe in some ways, we are. But when I went and lived in the Middle East for a couple of years, and lived there, when I came back, I had no idea how good we have it. I just had no idea. Yeah, we're living in imperfect places, but they are a lot less imperfect than any other place I've been. 

[01:10:10] I haven't been to some of the Denmark, Sweden, Japan, Australia, typically, who are known as the first world countries. And most of those, as Jeff said, if you're governed by the rule of law, most of those countries are going to be in the 400s, Luke, because 400 is reason in the Hawkins map of consciousness. So, 200 is integrity or courage. 250 is neutral. 300 is willingness. 40 is reason. 500 is love. The last time we checked, the highest country on the planet was Bhutan.

[01:10:42]Luke Storey:  Oh, no way. Really? 

[01:10:43]Clayten Stedmann:  Yeah. 

[01:10:43]Luke Storey:  I'm moving.

[01:10:45]Clayten Stedmann:  Yeah. Well, it's not super high, but they've been doing a lot of things like they have a gross national happiness instead of gross national product, because they're doing some stuff that they have a lot of—they put aside 25%, I think, of all the land for parks. And yeah, I don't know that they'll be able to keep that. They weren't before COVID, but during COVID, they seem to be more resilient, if you will, because of the low population, very rural, so you don't have the same amount of concentration of people and all of the challenges that come with that in a pandemic environment.

[01:11:14] I mean, we can play with this a little bit more, as you have said on the website, just to get a sense of what the reality is of—I mean, the US's Constitution is, I think, the highest I've tested on the planet. It's 700. It's extraordinary. That's like an unprecedented set of guiding principles in the history of humanity. I haven't tested everything, but as far as I've tested, it's the highest. So, that's part of what makes the US the place it is. And I'm from Canada. I like being a Canadian, but I also respect the US and the position it has for the world, and I'm very much aware of its—it's just in the media most of the time, so everybody gets to look at the US.

[01:11:53]Jeffrey Stegman:  Isn't Canada higher right now, Clayten?

[01:11:55]Clayten Stedmann:  Yeah, it was. Yeah.

[01:11:57]Luke Storey:  What the, wait, what? No.

[01:12:00]Clayten Stedmann:  Well, it might go drop for us.

[01:12:01]Jeffrey Stegman:  I had to throw that get in there.

[01:12:04]Clayten Stedmann:  Yeah, it might have dropped because of COVID, right?Because we're really locked down here right now. And so, probably, it might be lower, Jeff.

[01:12:11]Luke Storey:  Well, it's funny, we're kind of jokingly sparring there for a second, but imagine if there was competitiveness amongst humans. It's like, who can have the highest level of consciousness and be the most exalted in their conscious contact with the creator? Imagine a world where that's where people were aspiring to more so than they are. And I guess through work we're doing, we're hopefully encouraging that. That's my goal.

[01:12:37] I mean, that's my personal mission and goal. I know it is for both of you as well, having gotten to know you a bit. Well, thanks, guys, for taking so much time with me today and just really let me tease out all of my curiosity in hoping that I can provide some detailed point of view about what you're doing and how this works. I know for people that haven't heard this before, it's a little like out there, and so you guys have done a great job of kind of bringing it down to Earth and making it applicable.

[01:13:05] And I want to let people know also before we go that we've got your 15-day free trial. And by the way, thank you for not requiring a credit card for that. I think that was a classy move. I've gotten burned as a consumer so many times by signing up for a free trial, and then I forget about it. And a year later, my bookkeeper is like, what's this $50 a month thing? I'm like, what? I forgot to turn that off.

[01:13:29] So, that's very cool. But if people are ready to check out FLFE, you can go to flfe.net/luke, and I'm sure I'll plug that in the intro, too, but I wanted to throw that out there for people. And like you said, man, I encourage people to give it a shot and really see if you notice anything, see if you feel anything. And then, if you don't, then keep your life moving and whatever.

[01:13:51] But all of my friends and family that I've bugged about this and I have been pretty persistent, like you got to do this. Like especially people that live in a city where there's really high EMF, I don't think any of them have turned it off. I'm pretty sure everyone in my inner circle has been like, I'm keeping it on, it feels amazing. So, that's my testimonial. Yeah.

[01:14:12] I love what you guys are doing. And I'm super excited about the further research, too. I think that's really important for people to be able to get a visual understanding of what the effects are, especially when it comes to the plants and things like that that can't give a testimonial. You look at them, you go, wow, more spinach in picture A than picture B, that's simple, but also very meaningful.

[01:14:33]Clayten Stedmann:  Yeah. We have some more upgrades coming out this summer, Luke.

[01:14:36]Luke Storey:  Oh, what's up next?

[01:14:38]Clayten Stedmann:  Well, the next big one probably is like right now, we have 35 energized nutrients and we have 1,200 more coming up.

[01:14:47]Luke Storey:  Oh, wow.

[01:14:48]Clayten Stedmann:  Yeah. So. like we have EFAs, magnesium, zinc, a bunch of stuff, and we've done a lot of research, [indiscernible] and Jeff, mostly over the last few months, I want to plug them, they've been working away in the back room and we've got over 1,200. So, since digestion is the most energy-consuming process of the body, that's where we think there are big gains to be made, so that's one of them.

[01:15:13]Luke Storey:  Alright. Cool. If you could wave a magic wand and add any sort of element of service or expansion into FLFE, what could it be?

[01:15:25]Jeffrey Stegman:  We seem to be doing that on a regular basis. 

[01:15:28]Luke Storey:  You already are waving your magic wand.

[01:15:32]Jeffrey Stegman:  Yeah. I mean, the energy nutrients is so important for like EMFs that we talked about and that resiliency, antifragile, as it's sometimes called, where in our resilient response to what's happening in our environments is to have the nutrition we need in the body for the innate intelligence to use that and the increased life force energy to really have us be as superhuman as we can be. So, I'm really excited about that. 

[01:16:07] For the future, I don't know. It just seems endless. Things just keep coming. It's just like we always say, wow, this is the best it'll ever be, and then the next month, we discover something. It's been an amazing journey. And our subscribers, the ones that have been with us long time, they're just so loyal and really enjoying every new advancement that we make. And we just do it at the same price. It just comes in the same price.

[01:16:37]Luke Storey:  That's so cool. I love it. I mean, for 35 bucks a month, like what do you want? I could probably save myself a lot of money by just like, if you keep doing these nutrient upgrades, it's like then you would actually have the ability to assimilate this stuff from your food and not have to take 47 supplements a day. That's kind of appealing to me.

[01:16:58]Clayten Stedmann:  My supplement bill dropped hundreds of dollars a month. 

[01:17:00]Luke Storey:  Really?

[01:17:01]Clayten Stedmann:  I just don't need it. Yeah. I'm more satiated with food. Yeah. We're going to try to do some research on that, too. It seems that every time we do an upgrade, it allows us more capacity to do something else, so I think after the energized nutrients go on, these additional ones, there's some other stuff that we've had in the—like sometimes, what happens is that we have a friend that's suffering, and so we try to write something for them, right?

[01:17:29] And we do a program for them, but we can't put it on the entire world. Like that's the context you have to be able to write it in. So, we have like this warehouse of programs and stuff that we just don't have permission to put on yet, so after we get the energized nutrients, we have to go back to the warehouse and test these things that we've created for individuals. 

[01:17:48] Sometimes, even one customer, we can't do that very much, but our last EMF upgrade, because of all the satellites that are coming out, we did another EMF upgrade and that was from a subscriber, who was like, yeah, they just launched a bunch of satellites, and I don't know, something doesn't feel the same. So, we dug into it and made another discovery. And so, that's how the service works. So, for those of you who are subscribers, let us know what you want and we'll see if we can do it. That's really how the service grows.

[01:18:19]Luke Storey:  That's cool. Well, in closing, I'll tell you what I want. I want the ability to program like our ceremony room in our house at like 700, that you walk in there and you're just knocked out. You just fall to the ground and go into a beatific state of the best altered state imaginable. I mean, you can create that yourself, but it's a little more work than just going [making sounds] and flipping a switch, but you probably wouldn't get a lot of work done in that field, so hence you'd want to save it for your meditation cushion.

[01:18:51] Well, guys, thank you so much. Man, it's always great to catch up. I love you dudes. You're such kind people doing great things in the world. And I'm so grateful to have become friends and colleagues with you guys. And thanks for taking the time to come back on the show. And as always, man, keep me posted on any developments. I'll do everything I can to put the word out. Again, for those listening and watching, flfe.net/luke is where you go to get that 15-day free trial.

[01:19:15] I highly recommend it. And in addition to giving you guys feedback, let me know. Anyone listening, like how does it work for you? A lot of people on Instagram hit me up, like I love FLFE, it's the best thing ever, so like I'm getting really good feedback and I love to hear that. So, it helps me direct the kind of content I want to do and who I want to have on the show. So, you guys are always a big hit here, so thank you. 

[01:19:36]Clayten Stedmann:  And thank you, Luke. Thanks for sharing us with your audience and it's good to know you.

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